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Fascinate vs. Incredible

Droid Incredible vs. Fascinate?

  • Droid Incredible

    Votes: 144 77.0%
  • Fascinate

    Votes: 43 23.0%

  • Total voters
    187
And here's what will likely come out Summer 2011, if not Q4 2011:

Samsung Announces 'Orion' Dual-Core Mobile Processors | News & Opinion | PCMag.com

Samsung Orion dual-core Cortex A9 processor.

I'm curious about the power draw vs. a single-core chip, but look sweet. Does that mean I'll wait until then? Probably not.

Besides, I don't fully trust reviews anymore. You can never truly know which vendors get preferential treatment from reviewers. I'd rather hear from people in the community about a product after it's been out for a solid 30-45 days.

I just read about the Orion chip. Yea....my next phone upgrade will be when ALL the manufactures have a dual core phone out.

About the power draw:

http://androidforums.com/android-ne...ipping-1-5ghz-snapdragons-q4.html#post1390344

After reading that article, I'm not too giddy about Tegra 2 yet. Thats another one we might need to get reviews from folks using it first. The battery life could be old news, I dont know.
 
Engadget review appears to be a very subjective outlier. Most reviews say the VZW version is the best of all of them. I would expect the Epic to get that nod, but reviewers seem to favor slim.

Then again, I would rather have no flash and the 16gb the Tmo version has, so will wait for the next generation of chips and a device that does not compromise for the sake of carrier differentiation.

1. Keyboard = check
2. Dual core = check
3. 16gb on board = check
4. Micro sd not stuck behind battery = check
5. 4" super amoled = check
6. Flash = check
7. Newest version of published OS = check
8. No Bing = check

added:

Oh jeez, I may be waiting a little bit for that. Ok, I "might" dump the keyboard, but want the rest.

Not to mention I agree with people's view that a upper level device that releases now with 2.1 is goober level silly.
 
Fascinate looks awesome but BING killed it for me. If we can root and replace BING with GOOGLE I would make the move.
 
Fascinate looks awesome but BING killed it for me. If we can root and replace BING with GOOGLE I would make the move.

"If we can root the easiest device on the market to root - duh, you can! - I'll do it and have the phone the way I want it!"

You're stating the obvious, grasshopper!
 
I'm happy with my Incredible. I was considering the Fascinate for my wife. We had good experiences with Samsung feature phones, so the brand doesn't put me off. But after viewing the Mobile Burn video review, I think I will pass on this phone. The UI just looks clunky compared to the HTC.
 

As I thought, people assumed 800mhz because they didn't read. The Galaxy S does use a 1ghz. I appreciate the link putting this to rest.

We expect the Captivate to be a pretty speedy device, but Engadget didn't have the best results, with the demo phone showing an 800MHz processor instead of the 1GHz model we're told will be on the phone. Again, it's an early piece of hardware, they say, so take it all with a grain of salt.
 
Well....seems the GPS issue is also affecting the Fascinate. That would be something to think about if deciding between the Inc and Fascinate.

Just based on the GPS issue, I would have to change my earlier pick and give the nod to the Inc...lol Having free GPS is one of the things that got me interested in Android phones. If the GPS doesnt work good...that might be a deal breaker for me.

Its a shame cuz these Samsung phones have some nice features and specs...oh well.
 
Same price. Go with the Fascinate (Galaxy S). Larger screen, super amoled, slimmer device, gorilla glass (much more durable screen). I personally think the fascinate looks better. Love the rounded edges and how slim the device is. I hated my Incredibles battery life (2.1 and 2.2). The Fascinates battery is honestly not much better though. But I can seem to get through the day a little better without charging it and its running 2.1. I havent had any real issues with the Fascinate. Had a force close error when i was running a benchmark test, but other than that, its been extremely smooth.


So your Fascinate doesn't experience the GPS issue as the Vibrant and other Samsung Galaxy S?
 
I wish i would have stayed with verizon longer
to get the fascinate

but i do love my captivate more so then i did with my Incredible

The incredible is HTC's BEST PHONE EVER(With EVO on the same list...the "pros" of the evo are all subjective and strip it of 4g and front facing cameras and it's almost on par with the incredible)

however this is not the BEST ANDROID Phone by any means, especially since it is HTC made

gaming is a wonder on the captivate and i would hope so on the fascinate
I just hate that they added bing(like at & t did yahoo)
and whatever but i'd say the Galaxy S is almost on par with the Droid Line(Sans Incredible)

Galaxy S vs the Droid, Droid 2, Droid X...ehh, i will throw in the Incredible...and even in the Eris
and it holds its on
in a lot of areas and outshines the others in some

It wont get the recognition of the Droid family because it lacks the droid name tho

The inc is a good phone tho
 
VZW killed the Fascinate. Hardware-wise, it is a superior phone. Get it rooted and take the crapware out of it and you won't notice a thing.

The Hummingbird processor kills the Crapdragon. Qualcomm's response to this is coming out later this year or early next year in the form of a dual-core 1.5 and a 1.2. That's far too late. We'll see the ARM v8 by then and it'll rip the DC Snapdragon a new one again.

For those that want dyno queen phones, get a Samsung phone. OC it and you'll have a ...Quadrant queen? It'll put out massive numbers.
 
VZW killed the Fascinate. Hardware-wise, it is a superior phone. Get it rooted and take the crapware out of it and you won't notice a thing.

The Hummingbird processor kills the Crapdragon. Qualcomm's response to this is coming out later this year or early next year in the form of a dual-core 1.5 and a 1.2. That's far too late. We'll see the ARM v8 by then and it'll rip the DC Snapdragon a new one again.

For those that want dyno queen phones, get a Samsung phone. OC it and you'll have a ...Quadrant queen? It'll put out massive numbers.

"Crapdragon"? Perhaps you should change your nickname to "smackytalk" ;)

Compared to the dual cores coming out, the snap and hummingbird are crapdragons. The media function added (through drivers) and good audio dac is what makes Galaxy S good. Snap would be sweeter too, if HTC would write drivers to leverage the hardware. That has not happened for any device they make.

In just a few months, all current phones will seem like 7200 chips (G1, Eris, etc).

If you are a tech geek, it is best to wait a few months. The step up will be as significant as the snap and hummingbird over the 7200.
 
I love my Inc but i dont think it is the best phone ever, some areas of the evo is better then the inc, some areas the fascinate is better it really depends. My personal opinion is that the Inc for me is better then the fascinate. The only thing I really like on this samsung model is the screen nothing else. November/December verizon will be releasing some good droids and I think those that are to come will be closer to the "best phone ever".
 
I've been checking out the AndroidForums website for the last couple of weeks and I really like it. It has convinced me to switch from a BB to the Android Phone.

I have read several posts of the Dinc and Fascinate. I'm torn between which one would people recommend.

Dinc or Fascinate???

My coworker has the Dinc and I really like it. The size and OS are sweet. It also has the Google Search Tool.

On the other hand, the Fascinate screen in nice. I like the way you can switch the home screen icons to look like the Iphone screen. (i know, that's bad of me).

Any advice would be helpful.

Peace,
Rob
 
damn i wrote the longest response ever and chrome effed up...play with them both in a store...here are some things to consider...

*Screen...Fascinate wins here with superAMOLED
*Size...I like the smaller INC this is personal opinion though
*Battery Life...I think a very small edge goes to fascinate but not much if any.
*Power (Processor/RAM)...Fascinate's Hummingbird tops the snapdragon especially 4 gaming
*Camera...INC wins here but Fascinates is still great.
*Accessories...Fasincate seems like it will get more support here with more options...
*Homescreen Launcher...I like touchwiz and sense I cannot choose...I like window animations on touchwiz...
*Search Engine...Inc has google and fascinate has bing...

Okay so in the end just pick 1! You have 30 days to swap it if you are not happy. This is a win win decision in my opinion!
 
VZW killed the Fascinate. Hardware-wise, it is a superior phone. Get it rooted and take the crapware out of it and you won't notice a thing.

The Hummingbird processor kills the Crapdragon. Qualcomm's response to this is coming out later this year or early next year in the form of a dual-core 1.5 and a 1.2. That's far too late. We'll see the ARM v8 by then and it'll rip the DC Snapdragon a new one again.

The Snapdragon is 5% faster than any Cortex A8 (Hummingbird, OMAP) clock for clock. So what hurts Snapdragon? Being the first 1ghz on the market, it was using the older 65nm process, which means worse battery life than the newer 45nm designs. Also, Qualcomm, in a cost-savings move, bundled their chip with the Adreno GPU, which while adequate, isn't nearly on par with the PowerVR SGX 530 (OMAP) or 540 (Hummingbird). But for general purpose usage, especially amongst non-power users, there won't be a noticeable difference.

Also, ARMv8 is a long ways off. ARMv7 is still relatively new. We've seen it used very well in Scorpion (Snapdragon) and Cortex A8 (Hummingbird, OMAP 3). Next up is Cortex A9, which is an optimized version slated to be used in OMAP4, Orion (Samsung), and Tegra 2, among others. A9 and its derivatives are still based off ARMv7.

Also, Qualcomm has caught up again. Their 1.3ghz single-core and 1.2ghz dual-core Snapdragons launching in phones over the next 6-9 months are 45nm, and are paired with the Adreno 205, a chipset comparable to the SGX 535. The higher clockrates that the dual-core SD will be faster than the similarly released OMAP 4430 (which is 720mhz-1ghz, but 15=20% faster clock for clock). OMAP should offer slightly better battery life and slightly worse performance, with a slightly better GPU.

By the time Orion and OMAP 4440 are out in the 2nd half of 2011, Snapdragon's dual-core will be at 1.5ghz using an Adreno 220. Once again, compared to OMAP, we'll see worse battery life, better performance, and this time, a comparable GPU.

Orion is the wild card. Rumor has it that it will be the first 1.5ghz A9, and use the new SGX 545 GPU. If so, it will be the best performer of the trio, even besting the Tegra 2 in general computing (though likely still behind Tegra 2 in GPU).

Call it the "Crapdragon" all you want. That's the problem with being first to market, you eventually get outclassed. By Christmas, any 1ghz Snapdragon or OMAP3 should be considered mid-range as the new beasts arrive. This isn't new, as technology is constantly superseded by something better. Now, if OMAP3 1ghz and Hummingbird had been in shipping phones at the same time Snapdragon hit its stride, then yes, I'd have called Snapdragon a waste. However, Qualcomm got a good 6-9 months as king of the hill, letting them ship in a ton of consumer products. That's a huge win anyway you look at it.
 
ok played w/ Fascinate for a few mins as well as the Dinc w/ 2.2 and i think the screen is just insanely good on the Galaxy. I'm likely going to return tomorrow and pick up since they are on BOGA for $199. Performance is going to be better once 2.2 lands and i'm noob :-) but saw it's already rooted so CM6 and other roms are possible should I decide to go that route at some point. thx for all the feedback!
 
Nice post Medion.
(even tho I dont mess with the current Snapdragon) :p

Damn, the Orion may use the 545? So far the OMAP 4 will be using the 540. Again, Samsung may one up T.I. with the gpu.....lol

Hoping the OMAP 4 mates with the Tegra 2 gpu...
 
the fascinate found a good balance between a 3.7" screen and a 4.3" -- a good sizable 4" amoled display, nice. of course new phones come out all the time but i think the fascinate (and the whole galaxy S series) will be at the top in the android market.
 
ok played w/ Fascinate for a few mins as well as the Dinc w/ 2.2 and i think the screen is just insanely good on the Galaxy. I'm likely going to return tomorrow and pick up since they are on BOGA for $199. Performance is going to be better once 2.2 lands and i'm noob :-) but saw it's already rooted so CM6 and other roms are possible should I decide to go that route at some point. thx for all the feedback!

Fascinate is BOGO, not BOGA!
 
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