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Forum Admin Disabled Tapatalk for Phandroid?

stublake13 said:
The way I see it is that those complaining are those that have paid for a 3rd party app that nowhere on phandroid or AF states that this 3rd party plugin will always be enabled. In purchasing such a 3rd party app you put yourself at the mercy of any forums you use it on discontinuing any support. They have every right to protect their investments in whichever way they deem fit. We are their guests in their house and as such should feel we have the right to dictate how they should decorate or kit it out.

You took the risk and it didn't pay off. Just another lesson learned. Get over it and move on. If the lack of tapatalk results in your lack of posting or defection to another community so be it. Dedicated members who'll stay with AF through thick and thin on the other hand will always be held in high regard. I mean of all those who speak highly of tapatalk, why don't you ask if you maybe involved with a beta test of the new local app. That way your input will make the app better than Tapatalk could be for you here and will be much more productive than whining about it.
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Hmm, not quite sure I am whining or complaining about it being pulled but more questioning the reasons given for it being pulled. Forgive me but my profession is data analyst, I analyze things when they are put in front of me.

Phases posts on 7/14 that effective immediately due to security flaws Tapatalk support is being pulled from AndroidForums.

In Phases own post he links to the exploit forum discussion on the Tapatalk website where they say the exploit was fixed on 6/26, 19 days before support was pulled from AndroidForums.

My point is that its quite obvious the fix was made prior to it ever being reported on Android Forums, and it was made quite a bit of time before it was decided that support for Tapatalk would be pulled "for member safety". If the exploit was secured on 6/26 why pull it for security concerns on 7/14?

I'm certainly not going to leave because support was pulled but to me the explanation given doesn't make sense. :cool:
 
stublake13 said:
The way I see it is that those complaining are those that have paid for a 3rd party app that nowhere on phandroid or AF states that this 3rd party plugin will always be enabled. In purchasing such a 3rd party app you put yourself at the mercy of any forums you use it on discontinuing any support. They have every right to protect their investments in whichever way they deem fit. We are their guests in their house and as such should feel we have the right to dictate how they should decorate or kit it out.

You took the risk and it didn't pay off. Just another lesson learned. Get over it and move on. If the lack of tapatalk results in your lack of posting or defection to another community so be it. Dedicated members who'll stay with AF through thick and thin on the other hand will always be held in high regard. I mean of all those who speak highly of tapatalk, why don't you ask if you maybe involved with a beta test of the new local app. That way your input will make the app better than Tapatalk could be for you here and will be much more productive than whining about it.
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why are you taking it so personal? everyone has the right to disagree and if they want complain.. if anyone , including myself wants to complain then let them and i. I have seen in many separate areas of this forum, many complaining. Its obviously caused some of the users to be upset, especially when the reason given just doesnt add up. By the way of course those that have paid for the app are gonna complain, think about what you said. Those that have paid obviously used it and enjoyed the many benefits that came with it
 
Don't get me wrong I'm not taking it personally at all, I mean I never used the thing. All I'm doing is attempting to balance the argument. I concede though with the reason that Tapatalk users have a problem with the way AF staff have gone about removing it from being supported as it isn't very subtle. However lets give them the benefit of the doubt and see what comes about in the official app as any ideas behind the sudden move at the moment are mere conjecture.

If when it comes to the release of the offical Phandroid app, it appears that it really has been an effort by the staff to subject us to increased advertising, I for one will not renew my support.
 
AF was actually targeted by some "hackers" (if you want to call them that) which is why we disabled it. They may have fixed one of the vulnerabilities but there are still more AFAIK and in a decision for the safety of AF and it's users we won't be re enabling it.
 
BreakTheStatic said:
I think the exploit was just a nice, easy way for the admins to get rid of an app that eliminates some of their ad impressions. I understand that ads are what pay for AF, but I can guarantee you that the majority of tapatalk users ALSO visit the site from their PCs when home. The fact that they haven't re-enabled tapatalk now that the exploit has been patched is just more evidence that it (the exploit) was just a means to an end - getting users to utilize a proprietary app from which they can display more ads and generate more revenue.
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ballisticn8 said:
^^^this, agreed, sad... :(

also they seem to be pushing this phandroid developed app that "should be out before the end of august" so we'll pull support for a program that is dangerous even though the exploit was already fixed... more sad... :(

i bought tapatalk pro because of this forum and now this forum wont let me visit it using tapatalk pro...
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ballisticn8 said:
I'm really not trying to spout off to mods because I know how hard and thankless it is most of the time doing the work you guys put it, I've done it before, but damned if you do and damned if you dont huh? Maybe the part that I dont understand is the post where Phases explained why it was being pulled was made on 7/14 where as the link in Phases own post about the security exploit and the update to fix it was posted to the tapatalk site 6/26. The site pulled support for a product that a lot of people bought because of this site three weeks after the exploit was fixed?!? To me that doesnt sound like it was done for the safety of the site's members, esp when you yourself stated the accounts most at risk were warez copies.

By the time the decision was made to pull support for it "effective immediately" there had been a fix in place for 19 days, I counted it off on a calendar.

Its great that Phandroid wants to put an app out but its not here yet and AF yanked support for an amazing app that was pulled quite a long time after the exploit had already been corrected.

On a different and lighter note I'm lazy, I like that I can visit several different forums with a whole range of categories in one app... :p
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1. Haven't read every reply.

2. No, this was not some easy out for us. If we wanted "out", we would have just turned it off and been done with it. We can do that - explanation free, ya know. ;) But, we didn't - because we didn't want out. Nor even really think about it. Rob nor I have thought the word "tapatalk" since the day we installed it till the day we heard about the exploits (still being in effect). Which was the day before I made the post.

3. No, it was not to force people to view ads. We are not worried about the xx number of people that use tapatalk for our revenue bottom line.

4. Yes, the post on tapatalk's site was much earlier than mine. Yes there was an exploit that was "fixed". However, it was not fixed completely and was tested in house and verified to still work. It was verified to still work while learning AF was about to be a target - including admin accounts.

5. Can you imagine the hell we'd be catching right now had the attack taken place and they'd got hold of member information, and admin accounts?

6. We're not "pushing" our app. Just informing that one is infact in the works. :)

Sorry all, be mad at me if you want. Blame it on various theories if you like. The bottom line is - Rob didn't want it to begin with. I convinced him to do it, and now that this has hit there will be no convincing to go back. Knowing that I personally was a target, I have no desire to fight for it. I realize some of you paid for it, and that sucks. There are plenty of other forums out there that use it though - so I'm sure for some of you there is some change it will not have gone to waste.

Again, we do apologize. For those of you that don't understand the reasoning, please try to understand at least that there IS a (legit) reason, and we have the right to implement or remove features as we see fit.
 
After discussing a complaint about a moderator bashing me via PM with the admins, it seems this forum has bigger issues than tapatalk.

Cya.
 
Well if there are still exploits then i can def understand admins decision not to re-enable it. Please forgive my earlier posts but as I said it didn't add up that according to tapatalks page the exploit was fixed but it was still pulled three weeks later. Now with the understanding that admin tested the exploit and found it was still accessible I can def understand the reasoning behind pulling it. Thank you very much for the clarification Phases, as I said earlier tapatalk was a purchase I made due to AF but I have other forums I frequent that use it as well and AF deciding to pull support for it although it makes the site a little more of a PITA to pull up while out and about is not a make it or break it decision for me.

Above all else thank you for not taking tapatalks word that the fix was in place, thank you for putting the safety of AF members info first.

:)
 
NYCHitman1 said:
Now you wanna play the innocent bystander lol.
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i was just voicing my opinion , im allowed that. By the way another patch was released to day for tapatalk. not that it makes a difference. I wonder if AF plans to do like XDA and have there own app, but it runs on the same platform tapa does. if you want to know what i mean pull a search in the market for xda. you will find there forum app, its tapatalk. lol
 
el oh el... doubtful even if tapatalk secured everything it would ever be brought back, like phases said it was an argument just to get it enabled.

this thread has been very entertaining though... :D

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Yes, Rob doesn't care for Tapatalk, and he does have a bit of say-so in these parts...

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Interesting... Someone told me a week ago about an issue/exploit with Tapatalk, getting various users to "try" it, and so on. One or two names involved were mentioned too. I wonder if they're still members here or have been banned ?
 
BiGMERF said:
i was just voicing my opinion , im allowed that. By the way another patch was released to day for tapatalk. not that it makes a difference. I wonder if AF plans to do like XDA and have there own app, but it runs on the same platform tapa does. if you want to know what i mean pull a search in the market for xda. you will find there forum app, its tapatalk. lol
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I'm just tuggin your chain, [removed by Mod]
 
Being that i was also one of those being targeted, i can say that i would GLADLY use my laptop until the end of time to get on AF rather than use tapatalk.

tapatalk is awesome, but oh well. safety first. and im sure that this new phandroid app is going to be fine. yes it will have adds im sure, but its not going to be overwhelming. this site already has adds, and how often do you find those irritating? im sure that their app will be just as tasteful as the site.

and as they mentioned before, the "fix" tapatalk released, didnt actually "fix" anything. the exploit was still there, it just needed a slightly different method of accessing it.

and to those who asked, those "hackers" werent banned and continue to post over here all the time.
 
hallstevenson said:
Interesting... Someone told me a week ago about an issue/exploit with Tapatalk, getting various users to "try" it, and so on. One or two names involved were mentioned too. I wonder if they're still members here or have been banned ?
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Frisco said:
That would be pretty easy to find out.
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Phases said:
...correct.
Yes, there are reasons we do (and don't do) the things we do (and don't do.)
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How would one find this information? Would like to know what to look for. Please and thanks....
BTW don't even you wtf tapatalk is/does, lol
 
nmayer79 said:
How would one find this information? Would like to know what to look for. Please and thanks....
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You didn't say "pretty please", so I won't tell you. :p

In all seriousness, people tell me things in confidence and I respect that. I don't run my mouth. If someone else tells you names, that's their choice.
 
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