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Galaxy S2 confirmed for Verizon

Ive been waiting for the Bionic to come out since CES and Im hearing more and more news (rumors) of delays and even the phone not coming out at all. Why are carriers holding back on releasing dual core phones? The only dual-core phone currently out is the Moto Atrix on ATT, great phone on a garbage network! Single core phones are history and I wont waste my money on one. The Galaxy S2 is next on my radar but I havnt seen any hard evidence that this phone is dropping on Verizon let alone LTE. Even Samsung website has NO indication of LTE support. Where are you guys getting this info that the Galaxy S2 is coming to VZW??
 
ShawnJohn832 said:
Ive been waiting for the Bionic to come out since CES and Im hearing more and more news (rumors) of delays and even the phone not coming out at all. Why are carriers holding back on releasing dual core phones? The only dual-core phone currently out is the Moto Atrix on ATT, great phone on a garbage network! Single core phones are history and I wont waste my money on one. The Galaxy S2 is next on my radar but I havnt seen any hard evidence that this phone is dropping on Verizon let alone LTE. Even Samsung website has NO indication of LTE support. Where are you guys getting this info that the Galaxy S2 is coming to VZW??
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I think people are getting a little to paranoid. The SGSII will come to all US carriers. It will come in Q3 to the U.S. Late I know but it will be here. Galaxy S line is meant to be a shared global. The successor will do just the same. Just chill. It would make sense to come out sooner but I mean hey, things don't always make sense. The Charge is LTE from Samsung on Verizon so I wouldn't be surprised that the SGSII comes LTE ready. Nobody knew the original Galaxy S would come Wimax ready for Sprint so anything could happen.
 
ShawnJohn832 said:
Ive been waiting for the Bionic to come out since CES and Im hearing more and more news (rumors) of delays and even the phone not coming out at all. Why are carriers holding back on releasing dual core phones? The only dual-core phone currently out is the Moto Atrix on ATT, great phone on a garbage network! Single core phones are history and I wont waste my money on one. The Galaxy S2 is next on my radar but I havnt seen any hard evidence that this phone is dropping on Verizon let alone LTE. Even Samsung website has NO indication of LTE support. Where are you guys getting this info that the Galaxy S2 is coming to VZW??
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Samsung's website won't give you any indication of native LTE because it's not globally adopted yet and therefore handsets won't automatically include it. Besides, just because the Verizon has gone full-on with LTE in the states, there's still this to consider:

"The LTE standard can be used with many different frequency bands. There are planned 700 and 1900 MHz in North America; 900, 1800, 2600 MHz in Europe; 1800 and 2600 MHz in Asia; 1800 MHz in Australia."

That's right, folks. Looks like we can count on incompatibility between North America and the rest of the world...again. Maybe 5G will finally bring everyone together.
 
That roadmap doesn't seem very convincing. Is it 100% true that's a genuine Verizon roadmap? This will most likely be my next phone but there has been no announcement from Verizon.
 
There has been no real announcement from any carrier. They all have just announced phones that aren't coming out until June, so for them to announce the SGSII now would be silly. That's a very good phone. It would shadow the June devices. The phone just came out today for the UK & a few days ago for other places. The US will probably get it around the same time as last year or some time in Q3. The doubt because nobody announced it & expectations are really silly here. Just let it go & wait or get something else. I mean it's Samsungs job to push it global. Why wouldn't every carrier that has the first one not get the sequel.
 
smittylinc said:
Perhaps from the Verizon roadmap?

Verizon roadmap - Verizon Roadmap for Spring Leaked, Includes Xperia Play, Incredible 2, DROID X 2 and More - Softpedia

Let's see...yep, Galaxy S2 and 4G.
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AndroidifyMe said:
There has been no real announcement from any carrier. They all have just announced phones that aren't coming out until June, so for them to announce the SGSII now would be silly. That's a very good phone. It would shadow the June devices. The phone just came out today for the UK & a few days ago for other places. The US will probably get it around the same time as last year or some time in Q3. The doubt because nobody announced it & expectations are really silly here. Just let it go & wait or get something else. I mean it's Samsungs job to push it global. Why wouldn't every carrier that has the first one not get the sequel.
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kyler13 said:
Wonderful. This thread has now become circular.
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Please, folks, stop posting that silly article linking that chart that's merely someone playing around with excel on their home computer for a bit of fun. Has a single one of those target dates actually been met, anyways??
 
Actually the Incredible 2 was released on April 28th...so they got at least one right. :p
 
SirKronan said:
Please, folks, stop posting that silly article linking that chart that's merely someone playing around with excel on their home computer for a bit of fun. Has a single one of those target dates actually been met, anyways??
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Well, it does say "dates subject to change". ;)
 
From a business perspective, I think Verizon would have to release this phone sooner or later. Every other carrier has or is comign out with dual core phones this summer except for Verizon. Verizon has nothing announced yet to take the next step in smartphone technology. They did release 4G of course which is huge but without dual-core processors, they will not be current with the technology. Knowing Verizon, they like to stay ahead of the game. Let's break it down.

Tmobile - HTC Sensation. dual core 1.2 ghz with 1gb ram. Looks amazing
Sprint - Evo 3D. Same specs as above but with a 3d screen
ATT - Atrix and then not sure. Their 4G network is a joke so dont' really care.
Verizon - Nothing. Bionic has been delayed till further notice.

I'm really hopeful for this phone to be released on verizon with 4g. It would be the ultimate calamity if it was released without 4g however.
 
jcnyc said:
From a business perspective, I think Verizon would have to release this phone sooner or later. Every other carrier has or is comign out with dual core phones this summer except for Verizon. Verizon has nothing announced yet to take the next step in smartphone technology. They did release 4G of course which is huge but without dual-core processors, they will not be current with the technology. Knowing Verizon, they like to stay ahead of the game. Let's break it down.

Tmobile - HTC Sensation. dual core 1.2 ghz with 1gb ram. Looks amazing
Sprint - Evo 3D. Same specs as above but with a 3d screen
ATT - Atrix and then not sure. Their 4G network is a joke so dont' really care.
Verizon - Nothing. Bionic has been delayed till further notice.

I'm really hopeful for this phone to be released on verizon with 4g. It would be the ultimate calamity if it was released without 4g however.
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You forgot LG G2x in T-mobile and Thrill 4G (Optimus 3D) in AT&T. G2x is already on sale for T-mobile and the fastest android phone for now. Thrill is also 3D phone that deserves as much attention as Evo 3D, but almost forgotten just because of LG name on it instead of HTC. Thrill got dual core TI OMAP4 plus dual channel memory and will rival SGSII in performance and beat Evo 3D.
 
jinwons said:
You forgot LG G2x in T-mobile and Thrill 4G (Optimus 3D) in AT&T. G2x is already on sale for T-mobile and the fastest android phone for now. Thrill is also 3D phone that deserves as much attention as Evo 3D, but almost forgotten just because of LG name on it instead of HTC. Thrill got dual core TI OMAP4 plus dual channel memory and will rival SGSII in performance and beat Evo 3D.
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Optimus 3D is under the radar because LG just started on the high-end of Android phones and hasn't really had a home run. The G2x has little buzz and seems to fall with the Atrix as early dual-core phones that don't really utilize dual-core. 4" also can't play in a 4.3" crowd. The Optimus 3D doesn't have qHD screen and only has a 5 megapixel camera. 3D has little buzz in general, and the Sensation trumps its own 3D counterpart the Evo 3D.

LG needs a standout feature especially as a newbie, but I don't see one yet. Dual-channel performance is debatable or not fully proven, at least not something buzzed about or people really understand widely, and beyond that the only thing different it has from other phones is the rather conservative appearance.
 
chocobosandwich said:
Optimus 3D is under the radar because LG just started on the high-end of Android phones and hasn't really had a home run. The G2x has little buzz and seems to fall with the Atrix as early dual-core phones that don't really utilize dual-core. 4" also can't play in a 4.3" crowd. The Optimus 3D doesn't have qHD screen and only has a 5 megapixel camera. 3D has little buzz in general, and the Sensation trumps its own 3D counterpart the Evo 3D.

LG needs a standout feature especially as a newbie, but I don't see one yet. Dual-channel performance is debatable or not fully proven, at least not something buzzed about or people really understand widely, and beyond that the only thing different it has from other phones is the rather conservative appearance.
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Well if G2x is from HTC, I'm sure that it will receive much more buzz than it's getting now. Though it's using the same Tegra2 as Atrix, it beats Atrix in nearly every benchmark for two reasons. Stock vs. Motoblur UI and WVGA vs qHD pentile screen. As for Thrill vs Evo 3D, the only thing Evo 3D got over thrill is again qHD pentile screen. But we all know that doesn't really play into Evo 3D's favor. Benchmarks by anandtech shows that Optimus 3D handily beats Tegra2 phones including its sibling 2X. But now I'm sure that Exynos SGSII is speed king though, beating Tegra2, Snapdragon 8660 (Sensation, Evo 3D).

As for the dual core phones on Verizon, they will soon get Droid X2 with 1.2Ghz Tegra2 but with only 3G. Rumor has it that Bionic is delayed to enhance the processor, RAM in it to compete with SGSII. I guess they will just bump up the clock speed of Tegra2 to 1.2Ghz or higher and possibly increase RAM as well. The big question is whether SGSII on VZW will have LTE or not. If not, Bionic will be the flagship on Verizon this year.
 
jinwons said:
Well if G2x is from HTC, I'm sure that it will receive much more buzz than it's getting now. Though it's using the same Tegra2 as Atrix, it beats Atrix in nearly every benchmark for two reasons. Stock vs. Motoblur UI and WVGA vs qHD pentile screen. As for Thrill vs Evo 3D, the only thing Evo 3D got over thrill is again qHD pentile screen. But we all know that doesn't really play into Evo 3D's favor. Benchmarks by anandtech shows that Optimus 3D handily beats Tegra2 phones including its sibling 2X. But now I'm sure that Exynos SGSII is speed king though, beating Tegra2, Snapdragon 8660 (Sensation, Evo 3D).

As for the dual core phones on Verizon, they will soon get Droid X2 with 1.2Ghz Tegra2 but with only 3G. Rumor has it that Bionic is delayed to enhance the processor, RAM in it to compete with SGSII. I guess they will just bump up the clock speed of Tegra2 to 1.2Ghz or higher and possibly increase RAM as well. The big question is whether SGSII on VZW will have LTE or not. If not, Bionic will be the flagship on Verizon this year.
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Like you said, the HTC has brand recognition while LG does not, and they are still newcomers. Motorola has been popular since the original Droid. The Atrix has qHD screen, was the first dual-core in the US, and most importantly, wowed people with its docking solutions. Things like penTile, benchmarks, etc. don't show up in hands-on impressions or spec sheets. The Evo 3D isn't getting a lot of buzz either, so don't know why you are so concerned about it. There is no confirmation of whether it has penTile or not, and it shares the same Super LCD screen as the Sensation, so you shouldn't say it is penTile without any real info. Higher resolution phones bench slower, but benchmarks in general don't mean much. The SGS2 was a poor benchmarker until recently.

I think you may be a bit biased toward Korean companies. They all make good phones. Pick whatever you like, but it isn't some strange conspiracy if certain phones get more buzz than another. They each have their own unique circumstances.

Speaking of which.

I think all the SGS2 reviews have been a bit skewed by a certain unboxing ad campaign. :p

The part they didn't show was the "appreciation" tucked way under the phone box.
 
I was merely pointing out to previous poster his obvious omission of LG's dual core phones in T-mobile, AT&T lineup when he included HTC sensation, Evo 3D that's not even available yet.

I don't have any brand loyalty for Korean companies. If HTC indeed makes great phones, I will like them too. But so far none of their new offerings are impressive to me with poor battery, mediocre screen and performances.
 
jinwons said:
I was merely pointing out to previous poster his obvious omission of LG's dual core phones in T-mobile, AT&T lineup when he included HTC sensation, Evo 3D that's not even available yet.

I don't have any brand loyalty for Korean companies. If HTC indeed makes great phones, I will like them too. But so far none of their new offerings are impressive to me with poor battery, mediocre screen and performances.
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I don't consider their current lineup of screens mediocre. Despite the Atrix having qHD, I would rather spend my time looking at the much more colorful and contrasty screen on the Thunderbolt/Desire, notwithstanding its inferior dot pitch. I got the chance to see HTC's current sLCD in a side by side comparison with the screen on the Atrix. Not only is HTC's new sLCD more vibrant and contrasty, but the viewing angles are better as well. I'm expecting great things from LG with their current lineup of phones, at least regarding screens, but the current king will likely end up being SuperAMOLED plus. Every personal account of the Charge so far has people drooling like idiots over that screen, even though it's not qHD.

After owning an Eris with much lower resolution than my Fascinate, the first thing that bugged me about the Fascinate was that stupid pentile crap. Yes, your brain gets used to it, and pretty soon you just see letters and shapes like you're supposed to. But if I make even the slightest effort to see the pentile, it pops right out and I notice the jagged edges of lines and text again.

Fortunately for the Atrix, it has a higher resolution to compensate for the pentile effect. I still have pretty sharp eyes, and I can see it clearly whenever there's bright text on a dark background. Unfortunately, the qHD is not enough to compensate for lesser contrast and color reproduction. In addition, the qHD seemed to make some apps a little hesitant as I was operating and testing the phone, as if they don't quite scale perfectly yet, for whatever reason. This won't be an issue on 480x800 resolution phones, as no scaling is required for most apps that fill that native res, and because of the popularity and current dominion of that resolution on current and many upcoming phones, I don't expect it to be an issue for quite sometime.

SuperAMOLED plus ... no pentile. I can't WAIT to see that in person. Even though the Galaxy S variants have a very noticeable pentile effect on text, the sensational blacks, impressive viewing angles, and all around amazing contrast very effectively help to offset that effect.

Would I like qHD without the pentile? Yes. And someday we'll likely see a SuperAMOLED plus variation with qHD. Probably next year. Until then, I'm sure hoping Verizon doesn't do anything to put a damper on the awesomeness the SGS2 has the potential to bring to my current network. If they screw it up somehow, I'm going to sprint. Unlimited mobile to any network's mobile FTW.
 
jinwons said:
I was merely pointing out to previous poster his obvious omission of LG's dual core phones in T-mobile, AT&T lineup when he included HTC sensation, Evo 3D that's not even available yet.

I don't have any brand loyalty for Korean companies. If HTC indeed makes great phones, I will like them too. But so far none of their new offerings are impressive to me with poor battery, mediocre screen and performances.
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If HTC indeed makes great phones? :eek: Shhh. Don't go to an HTC forum and say that. :p Or xda.

The Inspire, Incredible S, Thunderbolt, and eventually Evo 3D/Sensation seem to all have that nice crisp Super LCD screen. Seems just as good as the G2x one to me. I've compared the Inspire and G2x before, in store, two stores were next to each other. I still think you are a bit biased toward Korean companies, or at least against Motorola and HTC. Reviews of the Inspire, Incredible S, and recent non-Thunderbolt HTCs seem decent as well for battery life. Performance ain't different from any other non dual-core phones out there. The Sony-Ericsson Xperia phones are slower. The new Optimus Black will be single-core as well. Samsung just released the SGS2, their first and only dual-core phone, and it ain't in the states yet. I don't think you'll find that big a speed difference if you used the G2x and Inspire side by side. Might want to give HTC the benefit of the doubt. I've never owned one before (not counting an old T-mobile MDA WinMo phone I promptly sold) and all the HTC fanboys are off-putting, but it's nice to keep options open.
 
chocobosandwich said:
If HTC indeed makes great phones? :eek: Shhh. Don't go to an HTC forum and say that. :p Or xda.

The Inspire, Incredible S, Thunderbolt, and eventually Evo 3D/Sensation seem to all have that nice crisp Super LCD screen. Seems just as good as the G2x one to me. I've compared the Inspire and G2x before, in store, two stores were next to each other. I still think you are a bit biased toward Korean companies, or at least against Motorola and HTC. Reviews of the Inspire, Incredible S, and recent non-Thunderbolt HTCs seem decent as well for battery life. Performance ain't different from any other non dual-core phones out there. The Sony-Ericsson Xperia phones are slower. The new Optimus Black will be single-core as well. Samsung just released the SGS2, their first and only dual-core phone, and it ain't in the states yet. I don't think you'll find that big a speed difference if you used the G2x and Inspire side by side. Might want to give HTC the benefit of the doubt. I've never owned one before (not counting an old T-mobile MDA WinMo phone I promptly sold) and all the HTC fanboys are off-putting, but it's nice to keep options open.
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It's funny that you call me biased toward Korean companies when you seem to be one of the most excited guy over SGSII and one of the most frequent poster on this forum. You are comparing Inspire to G2x that you never experienced. So you are also merely expressing your opinion too. See, I don't need your long explanation on how great HTC is with their recent phones. I know a lot of folks like them, but I just choose not to be one of them for my own reasons. Should I like them just because they have good reputation and loyalty among decent number of users? There is no such thing that one should agree to majority on brand preference in the free market. To me they only got good build quality, timely updates, but not so particularly excellent at any other things. I know I'm in the minority with this opinion but mine is mostly based on the hardwares.
And when did I say that I don't like Motorola? The only thing I dislike in their phones is Motoblur UI but I value their strength in phone hardwares, especially radios. I even mentioned that new delayed Bionic might be the new king on VZW this year. Right now HTC is ahead of LG for sure in both sales and brand recognition on android phones. But this is because LG's early strategic mistakes on adopting android in their phones. You seem to be underestimating their potential to turn things around. They have been in phone business longer than HTC and globally they are 3rd manufacturer in shipping all kinds of phones. Unlike HTC, they have their own competitive display, battery technology. I'm sure that LG androids will be recognized a lot better in a few years. OK, I'm done on this and let's get back to SGSII on Verizon!
 
jinwons said:
OK, I'm done on this and let's get back to SGSII on Verizon!
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I hope so. LOL! :D Seriously, I don't even really understand what you guys were arguing about, or why. :p

PLEASE, BERIZON!! DON'T DO SOMETHING TO SCREW UP THE SGSII!! If they do, I'll be forced to switch carriers. I won't deal with AT&T, and if the merger goes through unopposed, T-Mobile will be out. I'll probably go for the EVO3D. I can get two lines for $130 on Sprint, you get 1500 min, nights at 7 pm, unlimited mobile to any carrier's mobile (this is the HUGE difference), unlimited data, and unlimited tethering. With Berizon, I'm paying about $140 + taxes for 700 min on three lines, unlimited messaging, unlimited on one line and 150MB on another line, and nights start at 9pm. Only Berizon to Berizon is unlimited, not any mobile, and a careful analysis of the numbers on my history reveals that a good 90% of the calls are to other mobile phones.

In addition, I'm ONE INCREMENT two low on the minutes scale to get the 10 any numbers unlimited. They've got me right where they want me on this one. For nearly two years we averaged between 700 and 800 minutes, so for the longest time we had the 1400 minute plan. They kept calling me and reminding me that I can setup my 10 unlimited numbers any time. I got texts and emails reminding me. I rarely swear on here or at anyone in person especially, and one of their reps again reminded me to setup those numbers. I told him that for me the 10 numbers was absolute bullcrap (not exact words) and that I'll NEVER use anywhere NEAR 1400 stupid minutes between my wife and I, and the 10 numbers were useless. But we frequently went over 700 minutes, although just barely.

So I voted with my wallet. I got a magic jack for the house, and we discipline ourselves to use that whenever possible, because it's unlimited for $20 a year. Berizon now loses $20 per month because I reduced my plan, and we are averaging 400-500 minutes used a month. Haven't gone over once yet.

I just hope they keep unlimited data at least until the SGSII is released. Or at least only cap the $29.99 plan at a reasonable 5GB or something. We'll see what happens. I wish we knew a hard date on when their data plans were going to change, and when unlimited is going to go bye bye. Probably right before the phone I want comes out. :rolleyes:

jcnyc said:
Speaking of the S2 on Verizon, it looks like that joke of a network called ATT might be getting it first. Complete speculation still but I'd put a few bucks on it.

AT&T and Samsung Mobile Special Event Date: Galaxy S2 or Tablets Phone Reviews

This will probably mean at least a few more months before it makes its way onto Verizon. Sad day for us all.
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We already knew AT&T was getting it first. It makes sense, since even the international SGSII already supports AT&T's band. I know a friend on AT&T who will probably fork out the dollars to get one unlocked and brand new up front. He won't have to wait as long as we will for his phone, and likely won't have to wait as long for updates either.
 
I doubt that AT&T event is for SGSII announcement. But if it is, it's good for us on Verizon too because it will come to Berizon :) in a few months, a little earlier than what's speculated.
 
SirKronan said:
I hope so. LOL! :D Seriously, I don't even really understand what you guys were arguing about, or why. :p
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Sexual frustration. :D


I think I've made the decision to switch to Verizon from AT&T, now that it looks like they'll get a SGS II variant, plus the availability of the iPhone. My ILs are visiting and his reception (via Verizon) here at the World HQ is outstanding, so that basically sealed the deal. Just not going to jump till we can move both accounts and I don't want to buy another iP4, I'll wait for the iP5.
 
DT said:
Sexual frustration. :D


I think I've made the decision to switch to Verizon from AT&T, now that it looks like they'll get a SGS II variant, plus the availability of the iPhone. My ILs are visiting and his reception (via Verizon) here at the World HQ is outstanding, so that basically sealed the deal. Just not going to jump till we can move both accounts and I don't want to buy another iP4, I'll wait for the iP5.
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Hey, just curious. Why did you return your Atrix?
 
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