***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

[BlueBiker]

having these 3 phones launching at the same time isnt something i think they put much thought into

but yea, if you have thousands of customers wanting to know the status of something.. its in the companies best interest to let them know whats going on

Hey Shawn, I probably shouldn't have been contrary when we got to finish the long week on a real high note. So count me as one of those who were eager to get confirmation from VZW and now have something special to look forward to.

 

[cereal killer]

Haha had to find something now that its official. But is that your reasoning behind saying they'll get the 16? If that were the case, why even make a 32gb? Typically more storage comes with faster download speeds. Seems unlikely they'd give Verizon the watered down version.

Speculation incoming: GSM version aka GT-i9250 gets the 32 gb and Verizons version gets the 16 gb. There is a mention that the LTE version will have different specs as you already know. Unless the Verizon version gets a different processor, OS or camera that leaves one thing. Storage space. Pulling from the cloud is going to take some juice and that leaves the LTE version as the PERFECT candidate for less storage.

Makes sense to me. What say you?

 

[cereal killer]

Hans

 

[Ytram]

Speculation incoming: GSM version aka GT-i9250 gets the 32 gb and Verizons version gets the 16 gb. There is a mention that the LTE version will have different specs as you already know. Unless the Verizon version gets a different processor, OS or camera that leaves one thing. Storage space. Pulling from the cloud is going to take some juice and that leaves the LTE version as the PERFECT candidate for less storage.

Makes sense to me. What say you?

Logically what you say makes sense. However, the i9250 is what's going overseas, and we're already seeing it pop up with 16 GB.

Hans

Pretty sure he went to sleep

 

[BlueBiker]

Speculation incoming: GSM version aka GT-i9250 gets the 32 gb and Verizons version gets the 16 gb. There is a mention that the LTE version will have different specs as you already know. Unless the Verizon version gets a different processor, OS or camera that leaves one thing. Storage space. Pulling from the cloud is going to take some juice and that leaves the LTE version as the PERFECT candidate for less storage.

I could see thicker case and bigger battery to compensate for LTE's power draw, although IIRC there were some claims VZW Nexus has a 2nd gen LTE radio that isn't such a hog.

 

[X24]

Speculation incoming: GSM version aka GT-i9250 gets the 32 gb and Verizons version gets the 16 gb. There is a mention that the LTE version will have different specs as you already know. Unless the Verizon version gets a different processor, OS or camera that leaves one thing. Storage space. Pulling from the cloud is going to take some juice and that leaves the LTE version as the PERFECT candidate for less storage.

Makes sense to me. What say you?

I say you might be the biggest pessimist I've ever met :S It will be 32gb.

 

[Don S]

Speculation incoming: GSM version aka GT-i9250 gets the 32 gb and Verizons version gets the 16 gb. There is a mention that the LTE version will have different specs as you already know. Unless the Verizon version gets a different processor, OS or camera that leaves one thing. Storage space. Pulling from the cloud is going to take some juice and that leaves the LTE version as the PERFECT candidate for less storage.

Makes sense to me. What say you?

Yup, this makes sense. Probably a good bet.

 

[Don S]

... and there's nothing I can say that will convince anybody who sent out an email or tweet that Verizon's timing isn't a victory for the common man..

Yes, such is usually the case when one's position is probably wrong

You can't honestly believe they PLANNED a Friday 6:00 pm release, right? I guess you can, but "there's nothing we can say that will convince..."

 

[cereal killer]

I say you might be the biggest pessimist I've ever met :S It will be 32gb.

I just dont understand this comment. Pulling content/files etc etc from the cloud will be faster with LTE. How am I being a pessimist? Simply because I believe due to this fact thats why Verizons version version will get less on board storage?

 

[Greenzo]

Speculation incoming: GSM version aka GT-i9250 gets the 32 gb and Verizons version gets the 16 gb. There is a mention that the LTE version will have different specs as you already know. Unless the Verizon version gets a different processor, OS or camera that leaves one thing. Storage space. Pulling from the cloud is going to take some juice and that leaves the LTE version as the PERFECT candidate for less storage.

Makes sense to me. What say you?

I say (as a lurker from about page 40 or so) that you're a pessimist... Don't take that wrong, as a fellow Verizon customer I totally understand that. But when it comes to the saying "hope for the best, prepare for the worst" you've pretty much been in the "prepare for the worst" camp for this whole thread.
I really can't see verizon jacking the price another $100 (to $399) for their premium phones just 1-2 months after raising it from $199 to $299. As far as storage; I get why they'd try to push the RAZR, but there are A LOT of people (myself included) who are just coming up on the end of their OG Droid contracts and offering only one premium (locked) device wouldn't make sense, a good chunk would just go elsewhere. And a premium phone with 16gb of non-expandable storage just isn't going to stack up.

But then again, maybe this is just my optimism clashing with your pessimism.

So in short, my thinking is 32gb @ $299 and 16gb (if they get it) @ $199 or $249.

 

[BlueBiker]

I say (as a lurker from about page 40 or so) that you're a pessimist...

I really can't see verizon jacking the price another $100 (to $399) for their premium phones just 1-2 months after raising it from $199 to $299. As far as storage; I get why they'd try to push the RAZR, but there are A LOT of people (myself included) who are just coming up on the end of their OG Droid contracts and offering only one premium (locked) device wouldn't make sense, a good chunk would just go elsewhere. And a premium phone with 16gb of non-expandable storage just isn't going to stack up.

But then again, maybe this is just my optimism clashing with your pessimism.

So in short, my thinking is 32gb @ $299 and 16gb (if they get it) @ $199 or $249.

Hey Greenzo, glad you de-cloaked. Yeah I don't think a 16GB superphone w/o SD makes any sense unless there's also a 32GB available.

BTW, here's a suggested new avatar for CK:

 

[sean76]

Ok, well, enjoy the phone you're not impressed with on the new OS you wanted more out of, lol

I can understand that about the resale, but all used phones are going to take a hit once the GN is released because everyone will be trying to dump their device.

Lol....Yes like alot of people I was not super impressed with ICS from what I saw watching the stream from Hong Kong! And Yes I was expecting more out the Hardware of the Nexus. Either way, I'm an Android fan and I'll give it a shot once it drops...

Nice Pic...How's Theo Epstein and Terry Francona doing these days my man? I wouldn't worry about rings styles and sizes for a while...hehehehehe

 

[cereal killer]

Hey Greenzo, glad you de-cloaked. Yeah I don't think a 16GB superphone w/o SD makes any sense unless there's also a 32GB available.

BTW, here's a suggested new avatar for CK:

So im assuming storing content/files etc on the cloud is undesirable and a negative? If thats the case i understand the sensitivity to my speculation but in my case i could care less. Ive never taken out my sd card and dont care where i have to store my stuff.

16 gb or 6 gb I dont care. The cloud is just fine.........

 

[Ytram]

Hey Greenzo, glad you de-cloaked. Yeah I don't think a 16GB superphone w/o SD makes any sense unless there's also a 32GB available.

BTW, here's a suggested new avatar for CK:

I'm more inclined to this one:

/just messing with ya man

 

[Greenzo]

So im assuming storing content/files etc on the cloud is undesirable and a negative? If thats the case i understand the sensitivity to my speculation but in my case i could care less. Ive never taken out my sd card and dont care where i have to store my stuff.

16 gb or 6 gb I dont care. The cloud is just fine.........

No, the cloud is definitely not a negative, (and something I, personally will take advantage of) but 4G LTE doesn't really mean much if you only have 2GB to work with. I'm lucky enough to have unlimited data, but I know there are lots of people out there who aren't as lucky as I am.

 

[BlueBiker]

So im assuming storing content/files etc on the cloud is undesirable and a negative? If thats the case i understand the sensitivity to my speculation but in my case i could care less. Ive never taken out my sd card and dont care where i have to store my stuff.

16 gb or 6 gb I dont care. The cloud is just fine.........

Okay, you deserve a better answer. Here are some considerations:

Cloud positives:

• Requires less local storage
• Unlimited usable cloud space
• Reduces the need for local backups
• Easy synchronization between multiple devices

Cloud negatives:

• Requires constant connection unless files can be cached
• Privacy implications: What are they doing w/my data?
• Performance probably better w/local files
• Consumes bandwidth of limited or throttled connections
• Supported filetypes potentially limited by cloud service
• Constant connection is a battery hog

 

[Ytram]

So im assuming storing content/files etc on the cloud is undesirable and a negative? If thats the case i understand the sensitivity to my speculation but in my case i could care less. Ive never taken out my sd card and dont care where i have to store my stuff.

16 gb or 6 gb I dont care. The cloud is just fine.........

If you plan to take plenty of 1080p videos, 16GB would be insufficient, and I wouldn't want to use the cloud for that. As Greenzo mentions, not everyone is going to have unlimited data to use the magical cloud.

If they're going to take away the SD card, then 32GB is my personal minimum. With some of the camera improvements we're seeing in ICS and on the SGN itself(pretty sure zero shutter lag is a SGN feature, not ICS), I definitely see myself using more space than I ever have before.

 

[Steven58]

You know, I would consider it, but I don't want to be shouted down again and basically told that my idea is stupid and troublesome. Maybe next time.

(Sorry, everyone, I know I said I was going to bed, and now I am. I'm just a little too infuriated right now. I should probably just go the hell to sleep before I say something I really regret. Good night, boys and girls.)

I humbly apologize.

 

[cereal killer]

Okay, you deserve a better answer. Here are some considerations:

Cloud positives:

• Requires less local storage
• Unlimited usable cloud space
• Reduces the need for local backups
• Easy synchronization between multiple devices

Cloud negatives:

• Requires constant connection unless files can be cached
• Privacy implications: What are they doing w/my data?
• Performance probably better w/local files
• Consumes bandwidth of limited or throttled connections
• Supported filetypes potentially limited by cloud service
• Constant connection is a battery hog

I get this but it still doesnt answer the question of how im being pessimistic? I could understand if the cloud didnt exist then yes 16GB would be less than desirable and my .02 could be construed as pessimistic.

Im going to change my mind though. 32GB, cotton candy and pony rides for everyone on Verizon!

Maybe we should just move on. I'll agree on 32 GB.

 

[Steven58]

Uh oh.. pretty soon we're going to know everything about this phone. There'll be nothing to fight about!!!

BTW, going to bed. I yeild the 15k mark.

 

[cereal killer]

If you plan to take plenty of 1080p videos, 16GB would be insufficient, and I wouldn't want to use the cloud for that. As Greenzo mentions, not everyone is going to have unlimited data to use the magical cloud.

If they're going to take away the SD card, then 32GB is my personal minimum. With some of the camera improvements we're seeing in ICS and on the SGN itself(pretty sure zero shutter lag is a SGN feature, not ICS), I definitely see myself using more space than I ever have before.

Makes perfect sense from the two of yous

I get it.......i now understand the pessimist label in regards to this subject. Even though not my intention I get it.

 

[alprazolam]

CK, when I first started reading this thread, I despised seeing your "killjoy" comments. As I've progressed through the highs and lows, I've come to appreciate the down-to-earth approach to this whole ordeal. Looking to the past, you have a legitimate basis for your "pessimism".

As for the grass roots thing. I do believe that it worked folks. Did we change their minds on the phone? We'll never know. But, we at least let it be known that there is a faction out there who wants to see the phone. Binary Visions, I have long valued your wisdom on these forums, however I have to disagree with your last post. I do believe that the grassroots effort was done with class and simply showed Verizon our interest in the phone. Sometimes I think that we see corporate folks as machines rather than human. We can't fathom that they perhaps don't have every step planned out months in advance. This subject brings to mind Netflix (Quickster back to Netflix) and HP. Quickster was a silly plan dreamed up by the top brass and quickly squelched when consumer backlash was a a fever pitch. Did Hastings plan this all along? Conspiracy theorists may argue yes but most of us know better. Could the same be true for Verizon. Could a few thousand measly forum posting, tech geeks really turn the tide on a phone decision?

 

[jimbo1mcm]

For those who are less than thrilled with Samsung for the hardware in the Nexus, maybe Samsung is getting a bad rap, since this source says that Google absolutely ran the show in selecting the manufacturer and setting the specs.

Why the Galaxy Nexus uses OMAP instead of Exynos | ExtremeTech

 

[Szadzik]

For those who are less than thrilled with Samsung for the hardware in the Nexus, maybe Samsung is getting a bad rap, since this source says that Google absolutely ran the show in selecting the manufacturer and setting the specs.

Why the Galaxy Nexus uses OMAP instead of Exynos | ExtremeTech

I am not surprised at all. Since the phone is Google's baby, they choose what components it is supposed to run on.

I just hope that Samsung will not use this same hardware for their SGSIII if there is one to come.

 

[jimbo1mcm]

The following article is about the reasons why the Iphone 5 wasn't released. I posted it because it demonstrates the complexities of getting phones to the market to satisfy the insatiable appetite of consumers. We want new phones at a minimum of each year it seems. But we are pushing the limits of manufacturing and planning. It seems like Apple ran into problems with hardware supply and also the Siri software. They released a IP4S that was a hardware compromise with a Beta Siri. Sound familiar? ICS is not mature, but it is pretty good and will continue to evolve. Maybe Google and either Samsung or another partner is currently designing and getting ready to produce a much improved device for 2012.

The inside scoop: what happened to the iPhone 5? | 9to5Mac | Apple Intelligence