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***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

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erric said:
Again, I disagree. My own personal opinion is that very few people switch carriers just to have the best device currently available. I can only base this on anecdotal evidence, but I really doubt that any single Android device would drive carrier churn as the iPhone may have.

I have five smart phones on my family share plan and four of the five users could care less which device they use as long as it does what they want them to. In fact, I work at a company full of engineers and not one of them has mentioned the Galaxy Nexus or Ice Cream Sandwich. I specifically told a co-worker who was out of contract on AT&T to wait for the Galaxy Nexus and switch to Verizon, but he said he didn't want the hassle of switching at picked up the Galaxy S2. For most people, a device is not a compelling reason to switch carriers. Of course, as I said, this is anecdotal, but my feeling is that the numbers would prove it out. The only people who would be willing to switch carriers to get the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon are probably all posting in this thread.
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it also depends on unlimited plans at this stage, since most of us would be grandfathered into one. this, and the fact of the amount of coverage Verizon's LTE already has, is keeping me with them.
 
erric said:
Again, I disagree. My own personal opinion is that very few people switch carriers just to have the best device currently available. I can only base this on anecdotal evidence, but I really doubt that any single Android device would drive carrier churn as the iPhone may have.

I have five smart phones on my family share plan and four of the five users could care less which device they use as long as it does what they want them to. In fact, I work at a company full of engineers and not one of them has mentioned the Galaxy Nexus or Ice Cream Sandwich. I specifically told a co-worker who was out of contract on AT&T to wait for the Galaxy Nexus and switch to Verizon, but he said he didn't want the hassle of switching at picked up the Galaxy S2. For most people, a device is not a compelling reason to switch carriers. Of course, as I said, this is anecdotal, but my feeling is that the numbers would prove it out. The only people who would be willing to switch carriers to get the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon are probably all posting in this thread.
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Bottom line...when does less options= more sales when everything else is equal. Never.
 
svt_gEEk said:
What many of you are missing in my point in comparing this launch to an iPhone launch and saying that Apple gets it right is this:

Google announced this phone in mid-October....OFFICIALLY mind you....showed off all it's new features, and touted it as the best thing out there. Yet here we are 2 months later and don't even have any word of a release date. THAT is my complaint. You don't announce a phone that isn't ready for immediate release, period.
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It failed for CDMA, not for GSM
 
svt_gEEk said:
What many of you are missing in my point in comparing this launch to an iPhone launch and saying that Apple gets it right is this:

Google announced this phone in mid-October....OFFICIALLY mind you....showed off all it's new features, and touted it as the best thing out there. Yet here we are 2 months later and don't even have any word of a release date. THAT is my complaint. You don't announce a phone that isn't ready for immediate release, period.
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in Google/Android's eyes it is/was ready, just like Apple said iOS 5 was ready, yet they didn't realize that location bug that is killing peoples batteries way to fast. Verizon has always loved the control they have over devices and updates, it's a big part of who they are. Since this is probably the only time they get a say with the device/software, they are being extremely.... the word i want to use isn't family friendly... controlling i guess.
 
durangojim said:
Can't delay what wasn't even announced, and personally I like not having leaks, because then when the thing is introduced, it's usually the same day it's announced, and then you can buy it in a couple of weeks. I consider a perfect release one that goes: Here is our product, you can buy it on X date, and then that date occurs and you can buy the product. Amazon seems to be able to do it with the Kindle, and Apple does it with their products, but the Galaxy Nexus was announced over a month ago, and we still don't know a release date on Verizon.
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Apple recognizes America's desire for instant gratification, and religiously ensures that their launches satisfy their customers in that respect. Google wants to do that as well, but didn't have Verizon on board. That was their mistake. Notice both HTC and Moto did have Verizon. Much different launches. The problem is Google used the international launch method, and that doesn't work for Verizon phones.
 
svt_gEEk said:
What many of you are missing in my point in comparing this launch to an iPhone launch and saying that Apple gets it right is this:

Google announced this phone in mid-October....OFFICIALLY mind you....showed off all it's new features, and touted it as the best thing out there. Yet here we are 2 months later and don't even have any word of a release date. THAT is my complaint. You don't announce a phone that isn't ready for immediate release, period.
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It was available Nov 17th.
 
CaptainRon said:
That actually sounds like a reasonable theory. :(
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Very reasonable theory and that scares me beyond measure. If they are indeed trying to disable Google Wallet OR WORSE....are trying to get their system ready and on the phone at launch, then we could be in for a LONG wait.
 
garbageduck said:
in Google/Android's eyes it is/was ready, just like Apple said iOS 5 was ready, yet they didn't realize that location bug that is killing peoples batteries way to fast. Verizon has always loved the control they have over devices and updates, it's a big part of who they are. Since this is probably the only time they get a say with the device/software, they are being extremely.... the word i want to use isn't family friendly... controlling i guess.
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So Verizon allows the iPhone to release on their network with bugs however the Galaxy Nexus is not permitted to do so?
 
MKeditor said:
Much of what you wrote is true...which baffles me. I can't relate to people just dying to buy a phone with no sim card. It's like buying a Toyota car that can only use Toyota gas stations. You can never truly own it. A lot of these guys must live in remote places where GSM carriers aren't reaching yet.
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I wouldn't call where I live remote, (a town of roughly 300-350k depending on how you add up the suburbs) but AT&T/T-Mo (ie GSM) are non existent here. They have service along the main highways only, veer into a subdivision and suddenly your SOL on signal. AT&T "Activated" 3G here at the beginning of this year Verizon Coverage? We already have LTE. I wouldn't count on seeing AT&T LTE here for another 2 years at best.
 
Am I officially a nexaholic if I have my laptop next to my desktop with one browsing this thread and the other on the VZW website hitting F5 every 10 seconds on both? :confused:
 
statepenn03 said:
So Verizon allows the iPhone to release on their network with bugs however the Galaxy Nexus is not permitted to do so?
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Verizon has never been able to test the iphone first because apple has always handled the updates. with every other android phone on their network verizon goes through vigorous testing, which is why updates can take so long after the manufacturer makes them and they sends them to verizon for approval.
 
Mahalo said:
When you have one one company managing the engineering of the hardware, software, distribution and marketing of a product, and when said company only puts out one phone at a time, of course it will go more smoothly. VZW has not failed to meet any deadlines...yet. They said they will have the phone out by the end of the year. All of this other banter is gossip and rumor...
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Very Good point. They don't have to worry about the 4s cannabilizing other iOS phone sales.
 
Ugh... Sitting here in lecture trying to pay attention to a boring topic that the professor doesn't herself understand and all I can think about is wishing I had woke up this morning and the phone was ready. My ADHD can't take much more of this. My brain can't concentrate on other things till I have a release date!
 
nj02vette said:
"Perfect" you say.

I'd humbly disagree with that sentiment. iPhone 4S launch didn't happen during Apple's typical refresh cycles. It was delayed, much to the chagrin of many, with absolutely no word whatsoever from Apple regarding the delay. By all measures, the iP4S was months late.

And Apple doesn't pre announce a single thing. Not an official peep about a new product, until the product is actually released on stage. How many Apple launches have your heard about new products, then the announcement comes and goes and that product never materializes?

Analysts: We expect apple to release the iPhone 4S and iPhone5. Nope, maybe next announcement. We expect an upgraded tablet. Nope, maybe next announcement. We expect a new powermac with i7 processor. Nope, maybe next announcement. Rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat.

No, Apple is far from perfect. They surround themselves in a veil of secrecy which people are used to, and accept as status quo. If they don't announce something, then it just gets relegated to the "well maybe next announcement".

Sounds an aweful lot like Verizon, yet they get trashed and Apple gets a pass.
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I think Apple gets a pass for a few reasons.
1) Apple doesn't have all of these "leaks". There was a lot of talk about the latest internal word and we all took it to heart as truth. This thread and others like it are the reason Verizon is catching so much flack.
2) Apple releases it's own product. Period. Their only deal with Verizon is that Verizon subsidizes the phone for their customers. Regardless of what Verizon has to say about it, Apple will release the phone when they deem it ready. There is not an issue with a service provider sticking their hands into the process. If Verizon weren't okay with this, I'm sure Apple would release it anyway and leave it to Verizon to explain why their customers can't purchase subsidized, or they'd be force to sell subsidized because they'd lose customers who would say, "What the heck is wrong with you Verizon? All my AT&T friends have it! I thought we moved past this issue?"
3) Apple is reliable with their release dates. I don't mean that product comes out at the same date every year. I mean that they don't announce a product until it's ready and they release it right after they announce it. Every time.
4) Verizon is not reliable and they have a record that proves it. Their process and additions to phones (both smart and otherwise) have delayed devices that were ready for consumers. On the smartphone side we can walk down memory lane to the Bionic or even the Nexus One. I'm sure there have been several others that we haven't even heard about.


Now to wrap it all up with my biggest gripe. Verizon needs to stop selling phones and reduce it's monthly services fees. They are a service provider. Period.
They also need to stop selling products/features as services. Thether anyone?
I imagine that they'd sell access to your gmail account as a separate data package if they could. How about Pandora (VZRadio+), YouTube (VZVideo now with Google), Netflix (VZVideo Premium), etc...

Rant Over.
 
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