kinfolk248
Android Enthusiast
just give it up guys... dont stressing yourselves its bad for your health and well-being...
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zipred
Android Expert
Actually they can do this right. Last year was quite good, I and many others ordered on launch day easily.
It was the Nexus 4 launch the prior year that was bad.
While I had no idea how this year's launch would go, I did think it'd be at least as good as last year.
Given the fierce way Apple attacks Google I expected them to do a good job with this year's launch. Instead Google blew it. They screwed up a terrific opportunity to show the public they're focused and competent.
Sadly, they'll likely be bashed endlessly for bungling this launch. Why Google would allow this to happen is mind boggling.
zipred
Android Expert
I most certainly share your viewpoint.
If we step back, look at Google in its entirety, all the highly technical and complex projects they're doing, something as relatively straightforward as a product launch presents them with an opportunity to make themselves look good.
Instead it reflects significant complacency, one thats certainly impacted my opinion of the company.
Incredidroid
Member
I think they should have worded their site differently leading up to today. "Accepting preorder on 10/29" instead of preorders because only one person was able to get in haha.
jaj324
Android Enthusiast
The reality is that a pre-order should have nothing to do with actual inventory. Turning down a pre-order is like saying that they are not going to produce enough phones for everyone to get one. That is not the case. In 8 months there will be excees inventory being sold all over ebay. The fact that they are tying every preorder to actual inventory shows that when it comes to retailing google sucks.
Hook
Ever since DU... ;-)
Sad to read this going on. The Nexus 5 release went so smoothly, I thought they had worked out the bugs. The Nexus 4 was handled so badly I ended up waiting until Feb or March when I knew I could just order it.
It almost sounds like they were testing the web pages and for some reason (although it makes no sense to me) had to do it on the live server. Maybe they will have it right on the actual official launch day (Nov 3rd?). They might not even honor (or have fully tracked) the slip-through pre-orders.
A company like Google shouldn't be mucking around like this...
I'm not trying to order one, but I remember how frustrated I was with the Nexus 4.
It almost sounds like they were testing the web pages and for some reason (although it makes no sense to me) had to do it on the live server. Maybe they will have it right on the actual official launch day (Nov 3rd?). They might not even honor (or have fully tracked) the slip-through pre-orders.
A company like Google shouldn't be mucking around like this...
I'm not trying to order one, but I remember how frustrated I was with the Nexus 4.
halon
hakuna matata
jaj324
Android Enthusiast
IPhone 6+ is pretty awesome. I got one yesterday for my oldest child. It's a nice peice of hardware. I just don't care for ios.
Karl_in_Chicago
Well-Known Member
This was very Nexus 4-ish. How could they have learned so much and then taken such a big step back? How is Apple able to take pre-orders and Google can't? Again, I don't expect next day delivery - that's the whole point of it being labeled pre-order - I just expect to *easily* be able to place my order and be told their best guesstimate of shipdate. I got lucky on N4 but it was still so painful - why is it 2 gens later it sucks worse than it did then?
Old Member
Android Expert
Knew that this was coming.
jkc120
Android Expert
It's clear Apple is able to much more accurately forecast demand, no question about it. However, they also have a large, established (and loyal) customer base.
While the would-be Nexus buyers are also loyal, they clearly underestimated the amount of people that would want a phablet. That, or perhaps they reserved too many units for the carriers and underestimated how many they'd sell via the Play Store with everyone knowing carriers would be selling them (although, given the device we're talking about here, I think that'd be really out of touch of them).
I hope we find some kind of answers, this is a mess. And I hope to God the build quality/quality control is better than in years past, because if they sold out in under a minute you can kiss any RMA's anytime soon goodbye!
Karl_in_Chicago
Well-Known Member
I can't disagree with anything you say - and I don't wish to sound like a broken record - but I still find it difficult to grasp why Google fails at this pre-order business. If I go online to, say, Amazon and want to buy something that they said they'd have available to sell yet it's all sold out - yeah, I'm surprised/disappointed/pissed-off/whatever. If I go online to a vendor that is offering PRE-ORDER - I have no expectation of immediate gratification. My expectation is, instead, that I be able to place an order for a product and be given a best-effort estimate of a ship date. If, in the interim, I determine that I've changed my mind and am unwilling to wait for that ship date I should have the right to cancel. The only possible reason I can imagine that Google doesn't follow the above model is, IMO, some unreasonable fear that the volume of booked, backordered, preorder sales might have some excessive volume of cancelled orders prior to ship date. Other than that (and I think it's a rather remote exposure) I can't imagine why a major retailer would turn down sales today for shipments in the future (and, yes, I understand that the billing for those sales won't occur until shipdate but the premise remains).
jdduncan11
Android Enthusiast
I seriously doubt T-Mobile will have the phone available in stores on the 12th, despite their initial claim.
Biaviian
Android Enthusiast
I'm not sure what you mean by mainstream. They have had carriers sell other Nexus devices.
halon
hakuna matata
Simple. They got all carriers on board and went with a premium price like every other flagship phones instead of trying to buck the trend of offering a lower price on Play Store.
I think carriers were charging more for full price, might be wrong on this point?
Biaviian
Android Enthusiast
I'm still not getting your point. With the GNex I believe all carriers were on board. With the N4 I can't recall and with the N5 most carriers were on board. The N5 had a lower price point on Google's website than in the carrier's stores so they had premium prices. You just got a bit of a discount by going directly to Google. I don't see this phone being any more mainstream than any other Nexus phones since the GNex. So if going mainstream is getting all carriers on board then the GNex was mainstream. If going mainstream is giving a discount by buying directly from Google then the past few Nexus phones have been mainstream. If going mainstream is charging more than ~$400 for a phone then I guess they went mainstream with the Nexus 6. However, there is no way they could keep the price low while offering the same specs (unless they wanted to take a huge hit).
jhawkkw
Chinchillin'
With the GNex, only Verizon and eventually Sprint were on board (though they ruined the Nexus aspect of it). Though there was GSM model, it was never sold directly by AT&T and T-Mobile and didn't come to the play store until many months after it's global launch.
The Nexus 4 was only sold by T-Mobile, but was available on Google Play. Of course the supply issue regarding the Nexus 4 was a travesty and most people couldn't order one successfully until at least 3 months after it launched.
The Nexus 5 was only sold by Sprint and T-Mobile and didn't have the supply issues that the Nexus 4 had.