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*OFFICIAL* Xoom vs iPad 2 Discussions
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rjoudrey
Android Expert
No ones going to compliment you on how cool your theme is, but I am sure as hell they will be surprised when you show them the Elements Period Table or Infinity Blade on iOS.
I don't think Xoom users are looking for compliments, this line clearly states that iDevice user have a lot of peer pressure to own the iNthing!
I don't think Xoom users are looking for compliments, this line clearly states that iDevice user have a lot of peer pressure to own the iNthing!
LunchBB
Android Enthusiast
Its just come to preference and choice. Apple censors apps heavily so they can target parents/child, students and church folks. I don't want to live in a world of what i can have or not determined by Steve.
I just dont know being a youtube partner can be of any kind of credential
I just dont know being a youtube partner can be of any kind of credential
Exoplanet, molecules, elementals, mars globe, emt pde, star walk, sky safari, ihomework, mathmagics, just to name a few. There are tons more I just haven't gotten around to checking them all out. I don't understand how I am a fanboy. I legitimately gave reasons as to why I prefer iOS, and this is coming from a long time android user! Also, I'd rather have an application than having to rely on the web. What if I don't have internet connection or my phones battery is too low to tether? I dont know why you question me like I'm an idiot and there cant possible be any apps of use on other systems.
Whether you like it or not, a lot of android apps are ports from iOS. Its funny how people get so upset about certain brands or companies, why can't we just enjoy all technology instead of being dedicated to certain brands and getting all butthurt? People here literally foam at the mouth when anything positive is said about other brands. Google sky and earth are good apps, but aren't practical for studying. Theyre more for toying around with.
No. I said that because people here try to persuade themselves that customization alone makes the XOOM worth the money and everything else is so boring compared to it.
rjoudrey
Android Expert
No, only people with hugely outlandish stories about how slow and laggy the Xoom is. And that is has no apps. Really, come on, this is way beyond subjective analysis. We can all appreciate a user preferring iOS but spreading obvious propaganda is another thing. Just say you don't care for Honeycomb.
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zipur
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I think the xoom is laggy compared to the IPAD. Apps... who cares, I mean a good app for you is a dumb toy for me and visa versa. But to your point there are some things the ios does and does well regardless of how locked in the OS. It like a Home Owners Association. I would hate yp live in one but others love it as it maintains a certain level/quality of living. That being said this is Android turf so the apple folks are gonna get Android'ed. Funny thing is soon the Sammy folks will be hatting on the MOTO folks who will hate the Toshiba folks. We are all creating our own tribes. This should be a college course.
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zipur
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Arcadia - Excellent post. Apple has done an amazing job with tablets, they made the market and lead it by far. I have both OSes and read so many false statements on iOS made by those who never used it.
As you noted having flash is seldom an advantage, sites and apps optimized for iOS produce better results. I down side to iOS is the requirement to use iTunes on a single computer,
thats a hassle much more than the lack of flash, which is becoming a plus on many sites.
You have to give Samsung, Motorola and Blackberry credit for joining the game,
but the Galaxy Tab, Xoom and Playbook look to be more of a starting point than a contender.
With Apple's resources and Steve Jobs leadership they seem to streamline success. Google and it's many partners at times come across as too many cooks in the kitchen, impeding direction.
The Xoom vs the Playbook might be a better comparison seeing how 1st gen non-apple devices compare.
As you noted having flash is seldom an advantage, sites and apps optimized for iOS produce better results. I down side to iOS is the requirement to use iTunes on a single computer,
thats a hassle much more than the lack of flash, which is becoming a plus on many sites.
You have to give Samsung, Motorola and Blackberry credit for joining the game,
but the Galaxy Tab, Xoom and Playbook look to be more of a starting point than a contender.
With Apple's resources and Steve Jobs leadership they seem to streamline success. Google and it's many partners at times come across as too many cooks in the kitchen, impeding direction.
The Xoom vs the Playbook might be a better comparison seeing how 1st gen non-apple devices compare.
BiGMERF
Extreme Android User
my lady has an ipad 2 and all she has to do is open up farmville, netflix, GOOGLE VOICE!, Facebook app ipad (friendly) and then she laughs at me.. SMH. She really got me with GOOGLE VOICE! How the hell do I argue with her about my android powered Tablet when I cant even use one of the most cherished google apps.. SMH
llescaflownell
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Ugh, I seriously don't know what all the hubbub is about apps. Everyone keeps going on about apps! I've had both iOS and Android, and I don't care about apps. They're nice, but productivity wise, none really are beneficial to me (games DO NOT count as productivity).
In fact, when I had iOS, I actually downloaded more cydia apps than appstore apps. Without the iron grip of apple, those apps were actually more useful.
Anyways, it just really gets me that people use apps as a leverage for any OS. I remember when apple came out with the appstore and it only had a handful of useful apps (keyword: useful). It is highly illogical to compare a mature app economy with one that is just growing (honeycomb's, not android in general, since android app market is growing exponentially...)
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In fact, when I had iOS, I actually downloaded more cydia apps than appstore apps. Without the iron grip of apple, those apps were actually more useful.
Anyways, it just really gets me that people use apps as a leverage for any OS. I remember when apple came out with the appstore and it only had a handful of useful apps (keyword: useful). It is highly illogical to compare a mature app economy with one that is just growing (honeycomb's, not android in general, since android app market is growing exponentially...)
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BiGMERF
Extreme Android User
what you find to be not important for you , is important for others. Google voice is extremely useful for me . as is netflix. games not so much, but they are nice to have.
llescaflownell
Well-Known Member
Right, of course its all a matter of preference, but what I'm getting at is that comparing apples apps with androids apps is illogical. One being more mature than the other. Now if the two companies came out at the same time, THEN would it be a fair comparison.
My comments in the beginning were my opinions, and not to be used for others. My mistake, I should have put a disclaimer there.
My comments in the beginning were my opinions, and not to be used for others. My mistake, I should have put a disclaimer there.
s.hasan546
Newbie
Wow that was long. The Xoom has 50 apps right now. Granted Apple iOS has hundreds of thousands. But how many of them are games and other BULLSHIT apps? I miss 0 of my applications from my first ipad. I tried my gf's ipad 2 and it does nothing better than my xoom except play bullshit games that i could care less about.
"I don't know what you guys use tablets for, but I use them to be more productive in work and school, not to just browse the web and tinker with."
Sorry but i own/run 2 midsize companies and the Ipad does nothing to make me more productive. It was a ton of games and bs apps. Nothing really productive.
I dont need a task app, calendar app; etc. Xoom's calendar is is amazing with it cloud sync which the ipad lacks if you don't buy a Me account, which i would never buy for my employees. With the Xoom i sync 3 calendars with my xoom, computer, and Blackberry and droid and everything syncs perfectly. Thats a lot more than i could say about the Ipad.
Android Honeycomb has potential but it's super buggy and laggy. There have been instances where my XOOM was on standby mode and it simply wouldn't wake up! I thought the damn thing was broken, then it decided to wake up 5 minutes later. I've seen my fair share of random reboots, widgets crashing, lagginess when going from screen to screen, and the home screen appearing blank when i return from an application
Did you ever think it was your specific Xoom? My Xoom has had no problems at all except with a few applications that FC b.c they aren't optimize for honeycomb yet. BTW ive had plenty of apps on the ipad close on me before.
"Web browsing is good, but as someone who browses over 20 different sites daily, flash isn't as important as die hard android fanboys make it out to be. "
I use a flash based Point of sale system so it is the most important feature for me atleast. I could care less if HULU and Netflix don't open btw. You can go straight onto Megavideo; etc and watch a show there for free with no subscriptions. Web browsing with the chrome browser hands down beats apples browser.
"Hardware wise the XOOM is not a slouch. It is a tad heavy for me to hold in one hand, especially while in bed reading books."
I had the ipad 1 and the xoom is the same exact weight. Even the ipad 2 is only .2 lbs lighter. IMHO all tablets at 10" suck for 1 handed use. Playbook, galaxy tab; etc win in this category anyday.
"iOS has SOOOO many more quality applications and games than android its not even funny."
Well for me and a lot of business users i could care less about the more quality games or apps. Most of the apps are useless. I don't need an amazon, ebay, bestbuy; etc app. I have an amazing chrome browser. Why use a watered down app when i can use the full website?
iOS has mainly apps that i dont even need b.c of flash. I was gonna get the ipad 2 when i thought i needed it b.c it had a specific App that i would need. Than i realized hey i could just go on their website and do more than what the app could do.
"The iPad 2 is actually useful for me in class unlike the XOOM. I have a ton of applications for astronomy, calculus, chemistry etc. Whereas my XOOM has nothing. I brought it to class a few times and I felt stupid because it had no apps."
You need apps to use in class? Sorry but IMHO all you need for class is a note taking app. Xoom has that.
mrspeedmaster
Android Expert
There are many apps for the professional. It may not fit your business needs but to dismiss them as replaceable by websites is a bit naive.
I have a friend who is an architect who uses an iPad and goes onsite to view architectural drawings w/ an AUTOCAD app. He carries an iPad instead of 30lbs worth of maps, site drawings. There are high end PDF annotation applications for markups of floor plans. He whips out his DWG autocad drawings and pinch/zooms and makes changes on-the-fly.
You can't do that with a website. For his usage, an iPad is more convenient than a laptop. Most of his peers have now converted over to iPads.
My doctor uses an iPad that interfaces with a hospital records and x-rays.
I know a florist who uses a relational Bento database for his deliveries and clients.
I know a system architect that uses UML modeling apps for architectural design and software project management,
In each every case above, the users are not directly interacting with the public internet.
I use an iPad to manage an Oracle CRM, SQL database, our company's firewall, mail server, dns, ftp servers. I never even go onto the public Internet w/ tablet. I use X11, RDP, VNC, and very robust terminal apps on iOS. I've compared each and every Android equivalent and I will say iOS versions beat them all. I know this because I needs these types of apps I use for my job day-in-day out. I manage terabytes of data, I move virtual machines, I set firewall rules from a tablet. I know some developers that manage their clouds of XEN/EC2 virtual server farms from iPads.
So, there are more than just "Amazon, Ebay,NetFlix" apps.
People are using iPads to interface to legacy CRM, specialize databases and the likes.
Just in the productivity/business section, there are over 20,000 apps on iOS.
Some note taking apps are better than others. I've seen some nice ones that stores notes in a query-able database. Some allow great annotations and markups and combine various elements - scans, text, images, voice.
I've seen great reference apps.
Medical students have a wider reference pool of iOS apps. Same for aspiring legal students. Some of those are very pricey but they're very sophisticated and work off-line.
s.hasan546
Newbie
Like i said for my businesses i needed Flash b.c of the flash POS system we use. Im only talking about my needs not yours
Therefore the only app i really need is a flash enabled web browser and the calendar.Also my situation might be different b.c i don't work for anyone else. i run two companies, so the 2 most important features to me are the Calendar and flash enabled web browser. For example i have one calendar on my Xoom for 15 of my employees so i can load up their work schedules. It is the biggest hassle to do this on the ipad. (always has syncing issues). If i wanted to do the ipad in an efficient manner id have to buy Mobile me. Just for those 15 employees it would cost me $600/year if i had to buy mobile me. So using the Xoom saves me what i paid for it right there. I know a lot of business owners who are straying away from enterprise servers and going towards free cloud based options like Google's Suite of Apps.
I was just stating that a lot of apps that i had on my ipad are now useless b.c i can have a bunch of tabs with tons of websites open. Same thing as an app to me if not better.
Now for other business uses i understand the Xoom hasn't caught up yet. However, Honeycomb has been out for what like 30 days? Did you guys really expect it to catch up in a month what took apple a year? As we saw from the explosion of Android apps in the last year and half give it some time and Android Tablet apps will catch up.
Also Xoom has evernote, which does everything you stated for a good note taking app. And evernote is one of the most popular note taking apps out there.
Also for the doctors out there Android has medscape and epocrates, which are the main apps they use.
for the architects; etc yeah apple has android def. beat. Surprising since it took them wayyyyy too long to bring out autocad for Mac.
What does that get you? I can get all that crap using google. Might not be as pretty, but all that information those apps supply, is easily accessible on the web.
s.hasan546
Newbie
Totally agree. I was a little baised to the Ipad before i got the Xoom but now i don't see any reason to get it. Why would i need apps when i have a full web browser? Computers don't have apps like these b.c we have gr8 web browsers. I understand the ipad has apps for specific work purposes like mrspeedmaster stated but it depends on the person, and i highly doubt everyone on here is using it for those purposes.
Anyways nice username. I love vince flynn' series
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You guys must be making stuff up unless you can show a research paper, or some sort of survey that states the obvious
Why can't you use Google Voice on your Android device? I have Google Voice loaded on all of my Android devices
