I really don't mind Honda or the civic all that much. Its just that so many jackasses and car enthusiast wannabes run their mouth and, from my experiance, the majority of them run civics. Civics that look better and run better if they were on fire. I'm sorry but no matter how loud your fart can is, or how many Nos stickers you have, it will not make your car faster or better. And I'm not singling out civics as the number one culprite of this, it just tends to be the majority. And as such...I do not want a civic. That's a dumb way to see things but the Honda civic is ruined for me.