Root Sort out the Confusion

[KuroTsubasa]

Normally the tech savvy individual, I'm finding myself completely lost on what the process is to update to Froyo. There are way too many posts with questions to sort through, and not enough information in the Guide(s) that have been posted.

Trident's guide I really don't find up to par with his usual documentation. It's a confusing sea of version numbers and blind steps without any background to really explain what's going on. Yes, the steps are decently worded and clear, however, without knowing what they do, I don't know where to begin.

Here's where I stand right now. I'm running Punisher on two different Allys, and I'd like to update them to savoxis' Froyo Rom. How do I do that? Where do I begin? I've been anxious for Froyo for awhile now, and I've been hoping this confusion would die down enough to figure it out on my own. It doesn't seem like it's going to die down, especially with all the chaos causing two of our favorite dev's to feel they have to leave.

I don't need too much hand-holding here, just an answer as simple as "do this, do this, do this, follow Trident's guide, do this, and finally flash the custom Froyo rom". Enough to know where to begin, and which direction to head in.

As always, I *extremely* appreciate any and all help. Thanks.

 

[Rugger]

Follow Trident's guide, it re-installs fastboot again. If you hose your bootloader, you won't be able to use adb to re-push without it and will have to go through the guide again. 10 minutes or 1-2 hours -easy choice

 

[trav473]

from what I understand, you have rooted 2.2.1 installed before you and install Savoxis' rom, and Tridents guide is the safest way to get to that point. If you can be specific with your confussion on Tridents guide, I will be happy to help you as much as I can.

 

[dots]

Basically. Doing trident's guide will take you back to v6 (VS740ZV6) original firmware that shipped with the ally. You are taken back to that because you need fastboot access. Any phone that shipped with v8, zvb, zvc lost fastboot usage. From there youd go onto flashing stock recovery applying then applying ota's. And after all that bunch reflashing amon-ra and flashing the su zip.

So once you get to 2.2.1 rooted from there you can go on to flash savo's rom.

 

[flick159]

Basically. Doing trident's guide will take you back to v6 (VS740ZV6) original firmware that shipped with the ally. You are taken back to that because you need fastboot access. Any phone that shipped with v8, zvb, zvc lost fastboot usage. From there youd go onto flashing stock recovery applying then applying ota's. And after all that bunch reflashing amon-ra and flashing the su zip.

So once you get to 2.2.1 rooted from there you can go on to flash savo's rom.

Thanks very much man, you've cleared up alot for me. Any ideas why fastboot was removed?

 

[Valkerie]

Thanks very much man, you've cleared up alot for me. Any ideas why fastboot was removed?

Odds are so we couldn't root. Big bad corporations don't feel these are actually *our* phones even though we pay for them.

 

[flick159]

Yea perhaps. Thanks for the insight. I'm still unsure if I feel the need to jump up to 2.2. I've been very happy with velocity .2 and Drellisdee's OC kernel. Perhaps later I'll go through the process.

 

[KuroTsubasa]

Basically. Doing trident's guide will take you back to v6 (VS740ZV6) original firmware that shipped with the ally. You are taken back to that because you need fastboot access. Any phone that shipped with v8, zvb, zvc lost fastboot usage. From there youd go onto flashing stock recovery applying then applying ota's. And after all that bunch reflashing amon-ra and flashing the su zip.

So once you get to 2.2.1 rooted from there you can go on to flash savo's rom.

Thanks a ton dots. That's exactly the information I was looking for. I hadn't realized that they took fastboot away, since I've been running a custom rom and recovery for so long. I know what I'm doing after work today! =)

 

[pworcester]

ok so I was on froyo ota and went back to V6, stock recovery. I then let the ota's roll to zvc. Then I re-rooted and flashed recovery-RA_GNM_1.24.img and restored a nand backup that puts me at 2.1update1 with Drellisdees 2.6.20.6 kernel and velocity .04. So do I have fastboot?

 

[flick159]

ok so I was on froyo ota and went back to V6, stock recovery. I then let the ota's roll to zvc. Then I re-rooted and flashed recovery-RA_GNM_1.24.img and restored a nand backup that puts me at 2.1update1 with Drellisdees 2.6.20.6 kernel and velocity .04. So do I have fastboot?

Should, open up a cmd promt, cd to your androidsdk tools folder. Then type:

adb reboot-bootloader

Should reboot into a blue screen.

 

[pworcester]

ok I got a blue screen that says;

Fastboot mode started
udc_start()
-- suspend --
-- reset --
-- portchange --
-- reset --
-- portchange --
fastboot: processing commands

 

[swc2001]

Basically. Doing trident's guide will take you back to v6 (VS740ZV6) original firmware that shipped with the ally. You are taken back to that because you need fastboot access. Any phone that shipped with v8, zvb, zvc lost fastboot usage. From there youd go onto flashing stock recovery applying then applying ota's. And after all that bunch reflashing amon-ra and flashing the su zip.

So once you get to 2.2.1 rooted from there you can go on to flash savo's rom.

So your saying if you upgraded from v6 to v7 or above you have lost fastboot and need to do this?

 

[trav473]

ok I got a blue screen that says;

Fastboot mode started
udc_start()
-- suspend --
-- reset --
-- portchange --
-- reset --
-- portchange --
fastboot: processing commands

My suggestion would be to go to Trident's guide and start from the begining. even though you do have fast boot, you have to be STOCK with a stock recovery to apply the stock 2.2.1 update in his guide. after you are at stock 2.2.1, then you root and install a custom recovery.

 

[trav473]

So your saying if you upgraded from v6 to v7 or above you have lost fastboot and need to do this?

No, if your phone came from verizon stock with V6, you should have fast boot, its the phones that came from verizont with the later versions of 2.1 that HAVE to go back to V6 in order to have fastboot.

 

[flick159]

ok I got a blue screen that says;

Fastboot mode started
udc_start()
-- suspend --
-- reset --
-- portchange --
-- reset --
-- portchange --
fastboot: processing commands

Congratz. Thats fastboot. So to answer your question, yes you have fastboot.

 

[KuroTsubasa]

Just an update, I was able to successfully upgrade to Froyo. Thanks for the help. Can't wait for some good roms to show up. On a side note, did have to use the alternate method for reverting to zv6, but I did all the Windows parts on an XP virtual machine (since my desktop runs Linux).

 

[dautley]

No, if your phone came from verizon stock with V6, you should have fast boot, its the phones that came from verizon with the later versions of 2.1 that HAVE to go back to V6 in order to have fastboot.

Just to expand on this, if your phone originally came with V6 and you've taken all updates OTA you should still have fastboot, if you updated with the LG Mobile Update tool you won't. Is this correct?

 

[death2all110]

Just to expand on this, if your phone originally came with V6 and you've taken all updates OTA you should still have fastboot, if you updated with the LG Mobile Update tool you won't. Is this correct?

correct