still awaiting official word of the bravo, still no mention of anything iv quoted, and the biggest thing would be the touch panels insted of buttons, so no i dont think thats the bravo, if the bravo was unvieled, they would be talking about what makes the phone stand out, and that picture thats shown is shown at a very weird angle, do phones normally have pics showing off the phone, or weird angles? everyone calling me an asshole, and a polite way of calling me a lier, your wrong, i know phones change, but no way has it changed into that phone, and if people hadnt given up my details i would of been free to let you all know my source, as i said i have another account all set up,so when bravo is launched, i will use my new account, the only reason im staying here, is so that my signature will come true, the reason why im 99.99 per cent sure its not the same phone as the bravo that your all seeing is i cant imagine changing touch panels to buttons, its going backwards not forward, why have an optic mouse, but have buttons, think about when you put your phone in your pocket, wouldnt it make sence to have it slimline, so its a flat screen surface,optic mouse great, why ruin it with buttons, and that layout, not for me.