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Terrorism: What's being done about it?!

bcrichster said:
Since this, Terrorism, and our gun rights are all affected by each other"
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I really don't get this. Let me get this straight.

"US gun laws and terrorism are affected by each other" - er, sorry, how exactly ? I really am confused here I don't understand how the right to carry in public, a fire arm, affects terrorism.

I have seen it said that the likes of Paris in November could not happen in the US because of your gun laws. maybe maybe not. I don't think murdering Islamic terrorist scum would be put off, in fact they want to die, they believe in some sort of martyrs paradise (utter bull, but still). Maybe if a Paris happened in LA less than 132 innocents would have been killed because right thinking armed citizens would have exterminated the terrorists before they could kill that many, maybe not.

All I see when I look at your gun laws is 10.63 deaths per 100,000 population for the USA as whole in 2013
and 0.23 deaths per 100,000 population in the UK as a whole in 2011. More than forty times more Americans are killed by firearms in America than British are killed by firearms in the UK, per capita year on year. I can't see how more guns and the freedom to carry one legally in public is actually making Americans safer. I'm glad the right to bear arms is not guaranteed in UK law.
 
Terrorism is causing a severe clash with what gun allowances we have left and is becoming part of the presidential platform our candidates are running/pushing. They're using the terrorist acts as reasons to further restrict what gun rights we have left... That was my meaning, without the ret.ard.edly long drawn out explanation I had to just give.
How does being better equipped save us? Cuz then the psychos won't get off as many shots to kill ppl if we take them out instead of running and hiding like an ostrich until we're found and killed!! Dammit ppl, WAKE THE "F" UP!! A gun has saved my life a cpl times, even from my own family!! You don't like guns?! Then go live in Paris or California! You SEEN how well that worked out for them, didn't ya? Ur statistics aren't doing our current reality any Justice. And by the way, I've been shot before so I KNOW what's involved. It's no TV fairytale BS. Wake up. You can't become bulletproof with ur religion and you don't fight fire by blowing smoke up someone's @$$ [emoji49] one of the few things that will keep an enemy at bay is "Equal or Greater firepower", look it up in psychology.

Edit: I have got something for ur statistics, bro. Check this video out for more details - http://androidforums.com/index.php?posts/7145195
 
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Its funny (in a strange sad way) how some people are so desperate to keep their second amendment rights intact, even though they don't give a fig that the rights under the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 8th have already gone... and even more worrying that they are even voting for candidates who's explicit platform is to take away even more.
 
dynomot said:
I really don't get this. Let me get this straight.

"US gun laws and terrorism are affected by each other" - er, sorry, how exactly ? I really am confused here I don't understand how the right to carry in public, a fire arm, affects terrorism.
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On that question specifically: if a terrorist/murderers walks into a building, arena/stadium/ concert Hall/ wherever and sees a bunch of ppl wearing guns then they'll be WAAAAY less likely to open fire to begin with. Therefore: mass possession of firearms by non terrorists will increase protection from terrorism
 
bcrichster said:
On that question specifically: if a terrorist/murderers walks into a building, arena/stadium/ concert Hall/ wherever and sees a bunch of ppl wearing guns then they'll be WAAAAY less likely to open fire to begin with. Therefore: mass possession of firearms by non terrorists will increase protection from terrorism
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With the greatest respect....

If we take that logic as completely true....

Then how do we explain the other 352? or even the relative LACK of mass shootings in other countries?
 
I'm Terribly sorry... I nearly turned this thread back into the old 'gun control' thread....

Shall we stop this line of discussion here, and argue gun control in a more appropriate thread? (for those that are at least vaguely interested in that)
 
psionandy said:
I'm Terribly sorry... I nearly turned this thread back into the old 'gun control' thread....

Shall we stop this line of discussion here, and argue gun control in a more appropriate thread? (for those that are at least vaguely interested in that)
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You could do, and it probably would be prudent. However the arguments on both sides are highly polarised. I just know I like living here in the UK where my chance of being killed by anyone with a gun is 40 times less likely then the states. Just saying.
 
Tim Cook and other tech executives meeting with White House to discuss terrorist use of social media

Social media is said to be the main topic of discussion at the meeting. The US wants to see these companies doing more to prevent ISIS, among other groups, from using social media to spread propaganda and recruit new followers. One hope is that tech companies can identify terrorist groups' recruitment patterns and flag them for law enforcement. They'll also discuss ways that social platforms can be used to counter these groups with opposing messaging.​
 
Is a secret sniper killing off Isil's high command in Libya?

As befits all the best practitioners of his shadowy trade, no-one is quite sure whether he is one man or many, or even simply an urban legend.

But after a string of assassinations of its local henchmen, the Islamic State's new "Caliphate" in the Libyan city of Sirte is abuzz with talk that an anti-Isil sniper is at work.

In recent weeks, no fewer than three Isil commanders in Sirte have been shot dead from long range, according to local media.​
 
Three-Quarters of SC Voters Support Trump’s Temporary Muslim Ban

Preliminary exit polls in South Carolina show widespread support among Republican primary voters for Donald Trump’s proposal to temporarily ban foreign Muslims from entering the United States. In New Hampshire, 65% of GOP voters back the proposal. In South Carolina, that number jumped to three-quarters of voters.

Forty-percent of voters support Trump’s proposal to deport illegal immigrants.​
 
PRIOR TO SAN BERNARDINO ATTACK, MANY WERE TRAINED TO SPOT TERRORISTS; NONE DID

Many of the trainings, which focus on helping attendees identify “behavioral indicators” of potential terrorists, were held at the Ben Clark Training Center in Riverside, California, less than 25 miles from where the attacks took place.

These behavioral indicators have become central to the U.S. counterterrorism prevention strategy, yet critics say they don’t work. “Quite simply, they rely on generalized correlations found in selectively chosen terrorists without using control groups to see how often the correlated behaviors identified occur in the non-terrorist population,” Michael German, a former FBI agent who is currently a fellow at the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University School of Law, told The Intercept.

The trainings are based on flawed theories that just don’t stand up to empirical scrutiny, according to German. “The FBI, [National Counter-Terrorism Center], and [Department of Homeland Security] promote these theories despite the fact they have been refuted in numerous academic studies over the past 20 years,” he said.

https://theintercept.com/2015/12/31...any-were-trained-to-spot-terrorists-none-did/​
 
Horror at the beach: 22 dead in terrorist attack on Ivory Coast resorts

Six figures in black appeared on the beach. They wore balaclavas. They carried guns. They opened fire.

Armed with Kalashnikov rifles and hand grenades, the attackers marched across the sand, sowing death. They shot men, women and children. They shot Ivorians and foreigners. When security forces arrived, the gunmen killed two of them as well.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ast-resorts/?tid=hybrid_experimentrandom_2_na


This is sick..
 
bcrichster said:
I'm willing to bet that article will be moot after ISIS reaches the US, and also bet it's just a matter of time
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Absolutely don't doubt that what so ever, but I'd still say it's worrying there are so many deaths by gun with children, obviously the worry is the adult that allowed the child to gain access to said gun!

I'm not actuary against guns, but I'd say there does need to be some more commonsense gun laws added the try and help combat an obvious problem you guys have!

The chances that anyone will be able to shoot a suicide bomber and prevent a terrorist attack is minimal and way more unlikely than a child gaining access to a gun and killing someone!
 
I like guns.. and think they have a place in our lives.

but I think the new law allowing open carry ... is nutz.
more and more idiot moments... with guns and wrongful deaths.
 
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