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Yeah, Luna--seems like 2016 has just flown by and now we're just a week or so out from the end-of-year holidays.

The leaves have just now started falling here (should have been in October) and we're going to have mid-60s and near 70 up until Friday--not complaining about the warmer than usual temps, mind you--but it's been a rather odd year so far.
 
Indeed. We've finally been having some mornings with a good coating of frost and the leaves responded by all falling at once. Very little color though, but we've had a very dry spell.

Our neighbor responded by putting up their "holiday" lights which I assume encompass both Thanksgiving and the "x" word. And soon the giant inflatable lawn turkeys and pilgrims will be replaced by snowmen, reindeer and clauses.

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It's not that time of year again, yet. We're not even mid way through November. ;)

I know that and you know that, now go tell it to:

Broadcast Radio (especially those who are promoting their 24/7 holiday programming)
Amazon, who is inundating me with black Friday deals
Retail, who have their fake Santa's already sitting there waiting to scare young children in the spirit of peace, love and 50% off at Old Navy.
My neighbors who must have accidentally torn off the month of November when they changed the October calendar.
My wife, who has already said she wishes it was January already, even though she's the one who insist we participate in these shenanigans. (If you do tell it to my wife, do NOT tell her I told you to. ;) )
And all the television advertisers too numerous to mention that have already begun running holiday ads.
 
It's that time of year again, although it shouldn't be yet. :(

For me, the season got started last month with a simple little incident that has me both angered and depressed already. I guess it's like getting your Christmas shopping done early.

lol Loony buddy :D

I always have wondered... why don't you like Christmas? xD

Or is it just a superficial, assumption kind of thing that I am jumping to conclusions?

I don't think I will ever know... :D
 

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I don't have a spiritual sense, so in that regard Christmas is meaningless to me. I enjoy the time off work though.

Nice singing.
 
Part of me wonders if it would have a more spiritual dimension, if we decoupled it from the secular bit... Party's and presents on the 25th... And let's move the religious bit to another date... January 25th?.. As long as it doesn't clash with Easter we'll be fine.
 
Look guys, according to the scriptures themselves, Christ was not born on Dec. 25th or any time in December, for that matter.

According to Luke 1:24-26, Mary conceived Jesus in the sixth month of Elizabeth’s pregnancy with John the Baptist. This means that Jesus was born 15 months after the angel Gabriel appeared to Elizabeth’s husband, Zacharias, and informed him that his wife would bear a child.

According to Luke 1:5, Zacharias was a priest of the division of Abijah. Luke 1:8 says that Gabriel appeared to Zacharias while he was serving as a priest in the Temple.

We know from the Talmud and other sources that the division of Abijah served as priests during the second half of the fourth month of the Jewish religious calendar — which would have put it in late June (the Jewish religious calendar begins in March with Passover).

Fifteen months later would place the birth of Jesus in the seventh month of the Jewish calendar. That would be in the fall of the year, in either late September or early October. His conception, not His birth, would have occurred in December of the previous year.

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This puts Jesus' CONCEPTION -- not birth -- in December. Now if you're saying that three kings paid (Gold , Frankincense and Myrrh) to watch that, then okay shouldn't we be celebrating porn? :eek:
 
The short answer is Christmas is an unfulfilled promise and a constant disappointment.

Ahh I see thanks Loony buddy I think I get what you mean ;)

I must say... I am starting to lean more and more back into God's presence... I went from being a full blown atheist ... to a more religious person... more and more over the years I have just wanted to get closer and closer to God and his presence...

I have so many questions... like why did God make everyone unequal... (unless this is only my small mind's ability to comprehend...) and then make everyone "duke it out" in life... why does god let people suffer?

There are some questions I believe I will never be able to answer... some questions that run so deep... but if I tried money... I tried loud parties and nothing can compare to the presence of the lord...

I started trying so hard to talk to the Lord again... from being an "unshakable" believer I lost my way... now I am trying as hard as can be to go back to the Lord's presence...

I tried money. I tried women. I tried all sorts of things but they never made me happy... for some reason it never brought sanity and happiness ...

Is this what you mean when you say it had become extremely commercialised Loony buddy? I don't blame you... I wish for nothing more in the world for people to love one another and come together despite my somtimes hard crusty exterior ...

I also agree in a way.

Christmas should be about God and Jesus as Lord.
 
Look guys, according to the scriptures themselves, Christ was not born on Dec. 25th or any time in December, for that matter.



This puts Jesus' CONCEPTION -- not birth -- in December. Now if you're saying that three kings paid (Gold , Frankincense and Myrrh) to watch that, then okay shouldn't we be celebrating porn? :eek:

I love you buddy :)

I totally agree with you my friend...

If people just loved one another... we could truly make heaven a place called earth... we really really could... money doesn't seem to buy me happiness any more... but love and universal peace will give me such happiness like nothing ever could...

I wish Christmas would be about Jesus and the word... Loony... YOU ARE RIGHT...

YOU ARE RIGHT BUDDY...

I want to be with God again.

The world seems so lost... just lost lost lost... I don't want to sound negative... but I feel the truth must be told... people should go back to the lord... or at least try and be in his presence...

William Butler Yeats (1865-1939)

THE SECOND COMING

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: a waste of desert sand;
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds.

The darkness drops again but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
 
November 16.

That's how far I made it before being subjecting to !@#$ Christmas music while eating lunch.

And I can now start my list of establishments which are blacklisted until mid-January.
 
I like the holidays, don't get me wrong. That said I am a fan of each and prefer not to have Christmas shoved down my throat while Halloween candy is on sale. That's all I am say'n.

And yea Christmas (Dec 25th) is, was and should still be a "pagan" celebration of the winter solstice. It was appropriated by Christians to keep the holiday(s) about Christian deities. I was always told Jesus of Nazareth was born in or around July.

All that said, I don't mind the bearded dude or the fat man being involved in my celebration of the winter solstice, however I try not to get caught up in the wildly commercial side of this or any holiday. I (we) decorate minimally we exchange a gift or two but for us it's driving around town on a cold winters night looking at Christmas lights, sipping hot cocoa under a blanket watching sappy old movies and snuggling. THAT'S the holidays for us. (Oh and lots of good food and drinks) ;):D
 
And ... our first radio station (FM 101.1 in Philly) has switched to Christmas music 24/7 until the 25th (or you empty a 12 ga. into your speakers.)
 
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