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The (maybe) "Epic" Motorola X Pre-Release Thread

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I don't really understand the no streaming bit for an announcement like this. And if the press embargo continues until after the event is over, so you can't even follow on a live blog? Stupid.
 
AntimonyER said:
I don't really understand the no streaming bit for an announcement like this. And if the press embargo continues until after the event is over, so you can't even follow on a live blog? Stupid.
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I kind of like it.

Look at the old (not new) Apple annoucements.

Love him or hate him, Steve Jobs was a great showman and a good businessman.

His events were live and he had the brick and mortar Apple Stores - total control over the whole shebang.

Look at the insanity of the live blogging that happened with the Droid RAZR's release and definitely with the GNex. I know a lot of us remember that big announcement from Asia - and when they were done, we had no coordination nor answers from elsewhere.

Then came the HTC One release in London and don't get me started on the SGS4 debacle from NYC.

This time it's looking different as I see it -

"Hey press, we're unwrapping things - but you're not real reporters, so we're going to ask you to simply shut the hell up until we're done - and for a little while afterwards."

Sounds like it's a way to get all other resources in line, like ducks in a row, and then unleash the info to the world.

Please for the love of all that's holy - may I never see another SGS4 event like the NYC one.

These guys want to do their best so some sort of actual info gets released, and I have to wait a few more hours - include me in on that. :)
 
EarlyMon said:
I kind of like it.

Look at the old (not new) Apple annoucements.

Love him or hate him, Steve Jobs was a great showman and a good businessman.

His events were live and he had the brick and mortar Apple Stores - total control over the whole shebang.

Look at the insanity of the live blogging that happened with the Droid RAZR's release and definitely with the GNex. I know a lot of us remember that big announcement from Asia - and when they were done, we had no coordination nor answers from elsewhere.

Then came the HTC One release in London and don't get me started on the SGS4 debacle from NYC.

This time it's looking different as I see it -

"Hey press, we're unwrapping things - but you're not real reporters, so we're going to ask you to simply shut the hell up until we're done - and for a little while afterwards."

Sounds like it's a way to get all other resources in line, like ducks in a row, and then unleash the info to the world.

Please for the love of all that's holy - may I never see another SGS4 event like the NYC one.

These guys want to do their best so some sort of actual info gets released, and I have to wait a few more hours - include me in on that. :)
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Ok, I agree the S4 event was the most horrific event in phone unveiling history. But I'm thinking more like i/o keynote, and breakfast with Sundar. Those were enjoyable to follow and very low key. Why does an event being streamed mean it has to be a production? I see no streaming as "We don't care about the little people, this is just for the privileged few".
 
AntimonyER said:
Ok, I agree the S4 event was the most horrific event in phone unveiling history. But I'm thinking more like i/o keynote, and breakfast with Sundar. Those were enjoyable to follow and very low key. Why does an event being streamed mean it has to be a production? I see no streaming as "We don't care about the little people, this is just for the privileged few".
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Respectfully disagree. :)

Unlike Google I/O or the breakfast, this is a product release. It's not a dev conference and it's not a Google-only affair.

This involves distribution and everyone knows the question at the end will be - when can get it?

That answer involves the carriers, not just Google and our speculations about availability from the Play Store.

If they're doing this right - for the first time - then the delay will result in a blitz.

We'll be seeing the news coverage and we'll be able to go immediately to our carrier pages and get some straight info on availability.

I don't know that's going on, I don't promise it, I don't wish it -

I'm simply saying that I've thought all along that that is what they're really up to on this one.

And if true, that's a bigger favor to us little guys than letting the unwashed live blog it to us without the whole story.

And if I'm absolutely, completely and totally wrong - it still means that the blogosphere will actually have no excuse for not thinking, and they will have time to do so before getting into their sensationalist trip of running their mouths first and maybe if we're lucky engaging their brains later.

I'm all for both outcomes but that's just me. :)
 
EarlyMon said:
Here's the money quote -



Let's see what that says for real ok.


  • Qualcomm processors have never had ARM Cortex CPUs.
  • The Krait CPUs here are of the ARM Cortex A15 class.
  • They have always run the licensed ARM v7 instruction set however.
  • This is just like AMD vs Intel in the PC world - different architectures but run the same instruction sets, therefore the same software.
  • Nothing new since the first Qualcomm processors on Android, going back to our Day One.\
  • The second paragraph in the quote said nothing more than that.


Here's what he did allude to -



  • I've mentioned several times that they could accomplish their goals with a Snapdragon S4 Pro and then add other chips into an MCM packaging configuration.
  • I'd mentioned - it would work, be efficient and cost effective.
  • The first paragraph in the quote pretty well confirms what I'd been saying.


Hope this helps! :)


Sorry if I sound like I'm bragging - but you really did hear it here first. :)
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Thanks again for wrangling it all up. You've been the calm voice of reason throughout this "unveiling" and it IS appreciated.

Honestly I could care less about the streaming, the press event, the big reveal. What I care about is solid iron clad details that are no longer pure speculation. And a release date, I want a release date, I want it in my pocket and I want to know when I can log in to google play or Moto's website and order MY X ... that's really the bottom line.

If I have to wait for Friday morning for that I'm ok with it. Beyond that I might get a bit peeved. ;)
 
Well, I suppose all we can do is wait for tomorrow and see. I guess the difference you speak of with this setup is lost on me, because my carrier is Verizon, and no sensationalist bloggers can compare to the subterfuge that is the Verizon PR office when it comes to devices. :p
 
halon said:
Yeah, I'm sure Verizon will make everything perfectly clear for us.
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Yes, Verizon will make things clear for us, this clear...

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EarlyMon said:
Sorry for any of you stuck on a carrier you can't stand.

We all know that one.

Let's just keep the mud off the X over any thing a carrier will pull. :D
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Yea I never hold carrier fiascoes over the phone or the phone manufacturer. If you did ... would there EVER be a phone we liked if it was not a direct release from the manufacturer like say .... Nexus?

I despise ATT, I manage somehow to hold even more disdain for VZ, but the only other choices out there are at best, sub standard. Network wise.
 
EarlyMon said:
Sorry for any of you stuck on a carrier you can't stand.

We all know that one.

Let's just keep the mud off the X over any thing a carrier will pull. :D
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No worries, no matter what the carrier pulls, the Moto X will still be clean as a whistle :bath: . I just want the phone already :party:
 
From the Moto engineering exec -

"It's done by Motorola, a lot of design in the entire system," Motorola senior VP of engineering Iqbal Arshad said. "The actual silicon is specified by us but we don't go ahead and design and fab it. It's not an ARM processor, it's a very low-power separate processor," he said.
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It - could mean a two chip package - or a single chip while one of the DSPs in the S4 Pro are used.

I'll bet the two cores are separate, whether on one piece of silicon or not.

And correct - Motorola dropped their CPU fabs and spun them off as a separate company called Freescale some years ago. No idea if they'll be involved in this or not.

There's more to the separate processors than can meet the eye. Even after they lift the veil further - they'll be holding back a lot of info for competitive reasons.

From the PCMag article -

"We've done additional optimizations on top of that such as optimizing the entire Linux user space to move it to an ARM instruction set, cache optimization, Dalvik just-in-time optimization, and we've changed the file system," Arshad said. "It's full hardware-software integration to deliver best-in-class performance."
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Dalvik just in time optimization is an Android feature.

The embedded Linux OS underneath the Dalvik is already compiled by everyone to use the ARM instruction set, so I don't know what he means there. I think he means marketing-speak.

Cache optimization - yep, that's required.

Changed the filesystem - no idea what that means. I know what it could mean - but don't know what it actually means.
 
With the "close to stock experience" I am thinking = locked bootloader. I will be shocked if it is not locked....
 
ajdroidx said:
With the "close to stock experience" I am thinking = locked bootloader. I will be shocked if it is not locked....
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The old tale is that Motorola = locked bootloader regardless of carrier. However some devices are eligible to be unlocked via their dev website.
 
I am 100% not a fan of how Motorola is handling the event! Can anyone get it right like Apple does...These days most of Apple's announcements are live blogged and you get to sit right there along with the rest of the tech world and basically follow along. This is 2013, not 2007 when things were not as advanced and the tech world wasn't as big as it is now.

I'm sorry, I disagree with handling it this way...And I bet this is not a Google choice, but rather a motorola choice to just be different then everyone else at the moment when it comes to announcements and releases...Let me guess what's next moto, you'll be filling everyone in on release dates in the coming weeks. lol if that happens I'll be on the playstore ordering a GE of the GS4 and call it a day until the N5 gets released. So tired of the games already with these manufacturers!
 
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Which ones? Not the ones that are high profile, that's for sure. Razrs etc....
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From their unlocking website: https://motorola-global-portal.cust...sion/L3RpbWUvMTM3NTMwOTcwNi9zaWQvNHJ4emdEd2w=
Photon Q 4g LTE(Sprint)
Razr M (Verizon Developer Edition)
Razr HD(Verizon Developer Edition, Rogers, Global)
Razr I(Global)
Atrix HD(AT&T Developer Edition)
Electrify M(US Cellular)
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Following this trend, I believe that the Sprint, T-Mobile, and US Cellular versions will be unlocked or be eligible to be unlocked while the Verizon & AT&T version will be stuck locked.
 
jhawkkw said:
... while the Verizon & AT&T version will be stuck locked.
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atghghgrgrghrgrhagrhjghhhhh!

After all the market response, why do they still lock consumers out from full capability of the phone.

If the reason is because they don't want people getting in and screwing it all up, then provide a disclaimer and allow people to re flash (ie provide that option or instructions)
 
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