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He'll probably end up in court again for civil rights violations. To quote someone else earlier in this thread, kangaroo courts always get their man.

No chance in hell. Nothing even remotely close to civil rights violations occurred at any point in GZ's entire life. What are they gonna do, call in the black girl GZ took to prom to testify that he was racist? Lol. Or ask the little black kids he's helped that had no daddies?

Good luck with Al.
 
He'll probably end up in court again for civil rights violations. To quote someone else earlier in this thread, kangaroo courts always get their man.

IMO, doubtful.

A trial for civil rights violations would have to involve racial issues. LAST YEAR both the FBI and Justice Department sent TEAMS down here to interview basically Everyone who would testify in court. They found NO Racial components to or ill will (malice) to be involved on Zimmy's part.

Even Obama SEVERELY distanced himself from his prior idiocy of his "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon" statement right after the shooting by his much calmer Pull Back AFTER the verdict. His most recent message was to support the verdict not, "Don't worry, we're not done with that murderer yet."

There might be some civil (not civil RIGHTS) trials but I even doubt that. Zimmy's acquittal make those a VERY Uphill battle for anyone going against him civilly. Besides that, the LOSER pays their court costs and lawyer fees for a civil trial in Fl. The Martin's already HAVE their million in cash. I don't think they are going to GAMBLE any of their ill gotten blood money just to get some more.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl
 
Hope you're right... Suspect you're not
Remember... There was no evidence to prosecute in the first place, but they did.

Point taken.

Two Completely Different trial situations though. The Criminal trial was a result of an over zealous Prosecutor from 150 miles away from the city where it happened who went against ALL of both the law enforcement people And the local Prosecutors and BOWED to the outside pressures to charge those over charges. (I might even actually DEFEND the witch on one part. She was appointed by the Governor, she may well have been placing those over charges Directly on his order for all I know. NO INFO has come out on how that actually happened or not.)

Civil trials go further or not based on A JUDGE listening to the preliminary evidence. No Judge is going to wimp out like the Jax Prosecution wench did here.

Not to mention again that for a Civil trial, SOMEONE's going to have to lay down a SIZABLE lawyer retainer check for that to happen that DID NOT HAVE TO HAPPEN for the Criminal trial.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl
 
Did you ever hear of the band called The Dead German Tourists?

:D

Their name came out of a pretty infamous incident (actually a couple of them) down in Miami where touristas (yes, a German man and his wife) were Murdered in the carjacking of their rental car.

That provoked the Fla legislature to CHANGE the then current Stand Your Ground law. At that time, it only pertained to your HOUSE/abode. The carjacking of the Dead German Tourists put in place making your Car the same legally as Your House for self defense reasons. (It added your vehicle to "the Castle Doctrine".)

That being said, you have to be careful in Florida. You CANNOT use deadly force to protect Property here. Only to protect human life. In Texas, you can legally use deadly force to protect STUFF (actually, even your Neighbor's STUFF).

Were you to be carjacked in Florida and use deadly force to stop it, you'd be far better off to say, "The SOB had a gun pointed towards us and was going to carjack us and I knew he was going to SHOOT me!" than "The guy had a gun and there was no way in hell he was gettin' my Jag." ;)

Bruce in Ocala, Fl
 
A couple of us here had guessed that it smelled like there was maybe One hold out juror that finally caved.

Fox news reported (So it MUST be Twue! :p ) that they had an in court producer paying special attention to the jurors when they came back in with the verdict.

5 of the 6 looked "normal". The Hispanic lady looked like she had been through the mill and had maybe been crying.

Again, it does sound like she may have been the only one who had a question about manslaughter and when she found out she wasn't going to get the answer she needed from the Judge, went with the others.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl
 
It would REALLY BE NICE if you had a clue what you were talking about.

Just. A. Clue.

The ONLY time Zimmy EVER mentioned any color of anything was when he was ASKED by the dispatcher to describe the suspicious people. He apparently had a College Class that included how to be a good witness. He'd probably be a better witness for the cops than most anyone here.

There WERE suspicious black people stalking around that place who WERE burglarizing homes in the subdivision. THAT was Zimmy's main impetus for starting the Neighborhood watch.

How about you actually look at the EVIDENCE? They had Zimmy's neighbor, a BLACK lady. She seems to ADORE Zimmy. Don't you think the Prosecution tried their Very Best to find Anyone who could say Zimmy routinely used the N word or something racist like that? And the closest they came to that was an ear witness to ZIMMY being called a Creepy ass Cracker by his assailant.

There is NO EVIDENCE Zimmy continued following Maritn. And "we don't need you to do that" IS NOT even CLOSE to the same thing as "STOP following him". Besides, please check YOUR lawbooks and clue ME in on what law prohibits Me from following You if I so desire to do so. (Newsflash for you. There's NOT one.) Just because I LEGALLY decide I want to follow you for WHATEVER reason Does Not give You the right to physically attack me. THAT gives YOU the right to go to jail for assault and battery.

If YOU want to interject RACE where it ISN'T already you should at least try and make your position believable by someone who knows what the Evidence IS.

Bruce in Ocala, Fl

Bottom line that wanna be as man called Zimmerman should have fell back and let the cops do there job like the dispatcher told him to that's evidence right there he was being hard headed and following martin. Bottom line another kid is gone not by gangs not by a drive by but to a wanna be as cop who couldn't listen smh.
 
Ok just checking in. Let's keep it focused on the case and the aftermath. I understand this case involved a host of controversial topics, and so all are going to come up in discussion of the case, but let's remember what the topic is and not go off on a tangent. Also please do your best to keep your emotions in check.

Thanks :)
 
The concept here is that if your life was REALLY in danger, there wouldn't be a warning shot.

20 years... well that seems a bit steep to me (not knowing anything but the article).


Either way, can't blame Florida for the idiots that live here. ;) just like we can't blame ALL northerners for the snowbirds that make right hand turns from the left lane. :D
 
Bottom line that wanna be as man called Zimmerman should have fell back and let the cops do there job like the dispatcher told him to that's evidence right there he was being hard headed and following martin. Bottom line another kid is gone not by gangs not by a drive by but to a wanna be as cop who couldn't listen smh.

@Bruce....see, they refuse to acknowledge truth... Only the fantasy reality that justifies what they want to be true. There's really no point in arguing with them.
 
If someone can't read up in a thread and see in perfect unbroken engleese the exact answer to their pathetic guesses then there's not much you can do to help them out of their fog. :rolleyes:

When you lay your head down tonight, just thank the good Lord They aren't a juror on a jury...

Bruce in Ocala, Fl
 
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