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What features do you want on the Evo 2?

EarlyMon said:
If Sprint and T-Mobile merge the arsenal will really widen.
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I was thinking that too, when I saw the rumors pop up again, EarlyMon. Although, the last time I saw the rumors pop up, the news fizzled fairly shortly afterward.

With the increased sales of Android devices, I think it would really be a good move for both companies, if (and ONLY if) they can integrate the technologies smoothly.
 
Yep, I couldn't really fathom Sprint going to the trouble of adopting a Nexus S that will likely be 6 months old before they put it on the shelves, on WiMAX, when there's all this talk about leap-frogging to LTE.

Unless they're done with Samsung's lack of update nonsense and it's the Epic replacement.

As for Nexus M vs. Nexus S -- well, they're giving us Kyocera love and an Evo 3D, so anything's possible.

And you'd want this?

Motorola Shadow is Nexus Two with sliding QWERTY keyboard? -- Engadget

Don't you think there's too much red on screen?
 
what ever it is.. next big phone for sprint...
it wont mean shiit to me.. unless i can see good dev support ... like the htc phones: hero and EVO!
 
EarlyMon said:
Yep, I couldn't really fathom Sprint going to the trouble of adopting a Nexus S that will likely be 6 months old before they put it on the shelves, on WiMAX, when there's all this talk about leap-frogging to LTE.

Unless they're done with Samsung's lack of update nonsense and it's the Epic replacement.

As for Nexus M vs. Nexus S -- well, they're giving us Kyocera love and an Evo 3D, so anything's possible.

And you'd want this?

Motorola Shadow is Nexus Two with sliding QWERTY keyboard? -- Engadget

Don't you think there's too much red on screen?
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lol, no, not that. I was thinking more along the lines of the Atrix with an unlocked bootloader, running vanilla Android, with Wimax.

Check this out:
[Blind item] Next Nexus will be Motorola - Android Forums

That is the site admin of a pretty reputable site posting that his source says a Motorola Nexus device is in the works (from January of this year, just 2 months ago).

I have almost convinced myself that this is imminent, lol. It all adds up.

First, we have Sprint announcing they will indeed carry the Nexus One:
Nexus One Coming Soon to Sprint
http://newsroom.sprint.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=1401

Then Sprint cancels their version of the Nexus One (presumably because of the Evo):
Sprint Drops Plan to Offer Google's Nexus One

Then we see all the rumors about the Nexus S coming to Sprint:
Sprint announcing Nexus S 4G, EVO 3D, and EVO View tablet at CTIA? -- Engadget

And now the rumors that sprint is set to announce a Wimax version of the Atrix.

So we know Sprint has planned on launching a Nexus device in the past. They changed their mind at the last minute, but they did plan on releasing it, even issuing an official press release that it was coming.

And we have rumors that there is a new Nexus device about to be announced for the Sprint 4G network. That is entirely plausible.

Combine that with the rumor that the next Nexus device would be a Motorola, and things get pretty interesting. And the rumor that Sprint is getting the Atrix makes it even more interesting.

Now there are a lot of what ifs and variables in all of this, and it is almost based entirely on rumors. But it still doesn't seem all that far fetched.

Of course, I want this to happen so badly that it is probably clouding my perceptions a bit.

This would be quite the bombshell though. Imagine Sprint announcing an Evo 3D, some awesome HTC tablet that we know nothing about yet, and a new nexus device based on the Atrix- all at the same time. They would totally own CTIA, without question.
 
I have a question about the actual service. Is wimax going to continue to roll out while the lte gets started 2 years from now? And why can't sprint just do a cdma PLUS like t mobile. At least make it 3.5G in the mean time
 
BlackDynamite - well, the AC guy did say the rumor only had a 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 chance. Another was that Google was displeased with Samsung and is going back to HTC.

The point of the original Nexus was to light the way, as I recall. If Google were to change and offer more than one Nexus at a time, then they're developing a competing line and that's a huge shift politically. Interesting if true!

Alberto_jr - right now, Sprint and T-Mobile are in merger/acquisition (M&A) talks. I think we'll know more about the answers to those questions as that story unfolds - just my opinion, tho.
 
EarlyMon said:
BlackDynamite - well, the AC guy did say the rumor only had a 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 chance. Another was that Google was displeased with Samsung and is going back to HTC.

The point of the original Nexus was to light the way, as I recall. If Google were to change and offer more than one Nexus at a time, then they're developing a competing line and that's a huge shift politically. Interesting if true!
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Yeah, he said it was only a 1 in 3 or 4 chance. But now that we're hearing rumors of an Atrix on Sprint, at the same time we're hearing rumors of a Nexus device on Sprint, I think it is looking stronger.

The Galaxy S launched in (I think) December. So if they launched a Nexus M in, say, June or July, it wouldn't really be stepping on anyone's toes or having competing products. After 7 or 8 months, releasing a new phone on a different carrier shouldn't be seen as having more than one of them as much as it should be seen as finally getting a CDMA or 4G version.
 
If both are Nexus S with radio differences, then that's one phone. If one is Nexus S, the other is Nexus M, I'll respectfully disagree - that's two phones, that's a line, one single, one dual-core, so not just a carrier expansion.

(PS - where you said Galaxy S launched in December, I think you meant Nexus S launched in December and that's true.)
 
EarlyMon said:
If both are Nexus S with radio differences, then that's one phone. If one is Nexus S, the other is Nexus M, I'll respectfully disagree - that's two phones, that's a line, one single, one dual-core, so not just a carrier expansion.

(PS - where you said Galaxy S launched in December, I think you meant Nexus S launched in December and that's true.)
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Yeah, I meant Nexus S, lol, typos...

Anyway, yeah, it would technically be 2 different phones. But the Nexus S and Nexus One are also 2 different phones. The Nexus S came so long after the Nexus One though that it didn't really surprise too many people or seem weird or anything.

This would not be quite as large of a gap between releases, but still a pretty decent amount of time after the Nexus S (7 or 8 months).

I read rumors that the only reason Google even had a Nexus S is because Samsung basically did it for free. Supposedly Google was planning to go in a different direction, and then Samsung came in at the last minute with an offer Google couldn't refuse. And if that is the sace, then it wouldn't be a big shocker for Google to eventually go in the direction they were planning to go anyway (7 or 8 months later).

I guess I just don't see the Nexus S on Sprint as being all that big of a deal. All it is is a Galaxy S with a lesser bluetooth 2.1. Sprint already has a Galaxy S with bluetooth 3.0 in the Epic. True, the Nexus S doesn't have a keyboard. But I still don't see that as a big deal and can't think of a reason why anyone would drop their Evo to get it.

A Nexus M based on the Atrix is another story. That would actually be the most powerful device in Sprint's lineup and there isn't a similar device, or even a device made by the same manufacturer.

I can certainly see Samsung trying to get a Nexus S on Sprint's network, but I can't see Sprint getting excited about it. Especially after the whole Epic Froyo update fiasco. But Motorola Atrix based Nexus M would have to excite Sprint. And Motorola would probably love to get some money from Sprint customers now that Verizon is selling the iPhone and high end HTC phones.
 
Yep, I get that - but the Nexus One and Nexus S were not available at the same time.

So, back to topic - you'd want a Nexus M instead of the Evo 2?

It's Android - choice is good.

The only thing wrong with everyone planning on going with the non-Evo 2 phone would be that you're all traitors! Traitors I say!

:D j/k (I think I'm kidding - well, ts identified earlier what it takes to distract me, so I'll just think of that)
 
EarlyMon said:
Yep, I get that - but the Nexus One and Nexus S were not available at the same time.

So, back to topic - you'd want a Nexus M instead of the Evo 2?

It's Android - choice is good.

The only thing wrong with everyone planning on going with the non-Evo 2 phone would be that you're all traitors! Traitors I say!

:D j/k (I think I'm kidding - well, ts identified earlier what it takes to distract me, so I'll just think of that)
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You can buy both the Nexus One and Nexus S right now (developers anyway). At least you could a month ago, but probably still today.

Anyway, what if a "Nexus M" is what Sprint calls the "Evo 2" and the "Evo 3D" is a different device?
 
So far as I know, Nexus is a Google trademark and not something that Sprint can use on their own to title something. Not sure if Evo is a Sprint or HTC trademark, actually. Given that they market it as the HTC EVO 4G and then there's the HTC EVO Shift 4G - pretty sure that's probably an HTC trademark (could be wrong, tho).

And I'm referring to phones for the public, not dev phones - thought you were too.

And if we go by the rules of this thread - the Evo 2 won't be the Evo 2 for a few more years - have you seen the laundry list of desired features?!? ;)

So, we'll have to see.

And btw - this thread predates that Superbowl commercial on the whole number of Gs thing. :D
 
You guys have too much speculation in here for me! LOL.

I would love it if T-Mobile and Sprint did a merger. Then I would hope if they switch to LTE while running WiMax that my EVO 2, if it comes out in June is capable of running on it.

I've been holding out like a Catholic school girl over here. I'm dealing with my POS Samsung Alias 2 (this thing is a tank though) on Verizon and waiting for news of a possible new EVO 2 instead of getting an EVO now.
 
EarlyMon said:
So far as I know, Nexus is a Google trademark and not something that Sprint can use on their own to title something. Not sure if Evo is a Sprint or HTC trademark, actually. Given that they market it as the HTC EVO 4G and then there's the HTC EVO Shift 4G - pretty sure that's probably an HTC trademark (could be wrong, tho).

And I'm referring to phones for the public, not dev phones - thought you were too.

And if we go by the rules of this thread - the Evo 2 won't be the Evo 2 for a few more years - have you seen the laundry list of desired features?!? ;)

So, we'll have to see.

And btw - this thread predates that Superbowl commercial on the whole number of Gs thing. :D
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So then, what if instead of calling it a Nexus M, it is called the Evo Nexus, or something like that? Assuming HTC doesn't own the name Evo, which they actually might.

As far as dev phones, the entire Nexus line is supposedly a dev line. So a Sprint Nexus Evo would be considered a dev phone by Google, whether Sprint subsidizes it or not (as would Sprint Nexus S).
 
Well, the XOOM for Sprint has leaked in photos. This can shed some light to other rumors that other devices are to come to Sprint. Like the Atrix variant for Sprint. It was always rumored that it would eventually come to all carriers. Sprint Xoom tablet spotted in the wild – Android and Me

Just a week left until we see what Sprint has up their sleeves. Even after CTIA I expect something else to be said. I just hope whatever is announced it doesn't have to long before it is launched. I hope it has a April launch.
 
EarlyMon said:
Not seeing this as a closed community sale nor a pitch to devs - Nexus S ? The new Android phone from Google
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The Nexus One had a similar page for a few months after it was released. It was gone 6 months later though (was online in January and gone in July). So that would not be an issue. The Nexus S could be pulled in June of this year and that would be similar to what happened with the Nexus One.

I just checked and you can still buy a Nexus One, by the way.

This may not happen, and probably won't happen. But it doesn't seem all that far fetched either.
 
By the way - as a mod, I want to say that a little pre-CTIA meandering from topic is ok, but other mods may feel differently and that's ok too - people searching for news on a new Evo are likely to uncover one of the longest running threads on the topic.

So if I or one of my mod siblings turn around and ask soon to throttle back on side topics or step up the Evo 2 chatter, that's nothing hypocritical or personal - just part of the deal. ;)

Cheers, thanks a lot!

(hint - mixing subjects in posts is perfectly ok, too)

(and PS - I'm not above the law - my posts here have been moved as part of the off-topic chatter sometimes, so again - nothing personal when we do that. We spawn threads off in hopes of keeping multiple conversations alive, not to muzzle a perfectly fun chat.)
 
jdsingle said:
You guys have too much speculation in here for me! LOL.

I would love it if T-Mobile and Sprint did a merger. Then I would hope if they switch to LTE while running WiMax that my EVO 2, if it comes out in June is capable of running on it.

I've been holding out like a Catholic school girl over here. I'm dealing with my POS Samsung Alias 2 (this thing is a tank though) on Verizon and waiting for news of a possible new EVO 2 instead of getting an EVO now.
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It would probably be an unholy mess, but an Evo with CDMA, GSM, WiMAX (Advanced?) and LTE (Advanced?) and maybe that HPS-stuff(*) would truly be the Evo Worldphone.

For that to happen, somebody will have to start making large-scale integration radio chips, like the SoC processor - the WiMAX alone on our Evos is taking up a lot of real estate on the motherboard.


(* note - yep - can't remember the acronym, you guys know what I mean)
 
EarlyMon said:
The only thing wrong with everyone planning on going with the non-Evo 2 phone would be that you're all traitors! Traitors I say!

:D j/k (I think I'm kidding - well, ts identified earlier what it takes to distract me, so I'll just think of that)
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Hahaha...You've gotta admin, EarlyMon, it's going to be a REALLY tough choice for current EVO owners. If you think about it realistically, Verizon's increase in Android phone sales were due to the original Droid (not necessarily the original G1).

Sprint's increase in Android sales happened when the EVO and EPIC were released, not necessarily the Hero or Moment. The thing with Sprint is that they never had a Motorola android phone, that could really compete with HTC or Samsung offerings (even the Nextel Android phone they released got horrible reviews).

So, now that Sprint is going to have offerings from Motorola that might be just as comparable, it really does add an element of decision making as compared to the past couple years, especially if the Atrix ends up being available on Sprint.
 
dan330 said:
i am with earlymon...

if it dont say evo on it... you are a traitor!
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You guys are making me feel bad for considering it...LOL.

But what if the next generation EVO disappoints and doesn't live up to the same standards that the current EVO ended up fulfilling?
 
^^^ then stay with the original.. and torch the rest!






to be honest.. i will follow the devs to what ever android device .. that gets the most support.
 
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