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Windows 10, Yay or Nay?

Project Astoria isn't just dead, WinPhone is ready for embalming. MS made their big play for WinPhone to become relevant with the Nokia deal and failed completely.

Now they have a dead mobile OS, a 2nd rate yet somehow still wildly popular desktop OS and, pressure in all directions from Linux.

I beginning to think that MS may choose to join the Linux landslide rather than blow their cash reserves trying,to build barricades against it.
 
Crashdamage said:
Well, I realize that's what butters their bread. But don't those big buyers have any technical expertise? They keep buying the same crap over and over. How long will they continue to put up with it before they turn) to better solutions?
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I find executives, as a general rule, to be quite uncreative and very conservative.

Why try something unknown if there is a known (even if flawed) product on the market? And why is this so cheap? It can't be that good if it's that inexpensive/free...
 
jefboyardee said:
Can't we all just get along...

Windows 10 will receive an Anniversary Update with Linux support, Xbox One compatibility, and more

For a company whose former CEO once famously declared that “Linux is a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches,” Microsoft’s about-face on Linux has been nothing short of astonishing. Project Astoria, the plan to run Android applications on Windows Mobile devices, may be dead, but Microsoft isn’t abandoning its plans to drive closer relationships between Linux developers and Windows users. Windows 10’s Anniversary Update “will include the ability to run the popular bash shell from Unix, along with the rest of a typical Unix command-line environment,”​
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Woohoo! Does this mean I don't need to install Cygwin? Which is the first thing I do on any Windows system.
 
LV426 said:
Woohoo! Does this mean I don't need to install Cygwin? Which is the first thing I do on any Windows system.
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Don't get too excited yet, I seriously doubt this is a full replacement for Cygwin. It's probably more like an introductory to Linux for Windows developers. To prepare them for...?

Could it be that MS intends to beat Linux with - Linux? To rely on the Windows name and a very good VM for legacy software, to maintain their desktop market share? Who could take it àway? And MS could finally start mothballing NT.
 
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Crashdamage said:
Don't get too excited yet, I seriously doubt this is a full replacement for Cygwin. It's probably more like an introductory to Linux for Windows developers. To prepare them for...?
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[emoji23] To prepare them for realization that windows is like a 3 legged monkey: hypothetically speaking.. More legs sounds like more speed, but It really just gets in the way of trying to do what you want and becomes a massive inconvenience (drivers!) Lmfao. [emoji12]
 
I now have w7 on one partition, w10 made as my w7 upgraded on another, w10 clean installed on another. I have no idea why, just trying to acclimate to this groovy new operating system... I don't think it'll ever work.
 
bcrichster said:
[emoji23] To prepare them for realization that windows is like a 3 legged monkey: hypothetically speaking.. More legs sounds like more speed, but It really just gets in the way of trying to do what you want and becomes a massive inconvenience (drivers!) Lmfao. [emoji12]
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regardless, Microsoft is going to make it as dumbed-down as possible and therefore impossible for "power-users"... So, sort of like Ubuntu without the feedback problem that Canonical suffers under.
 
I have not looked at the updates for about 2 weeks now...

I saw the flag come up a few times, but I have it set to 'look' but don't do anything.
 
Oh, I love those Microsoft "there has been an error #12345" warning windows of which, if you ever tried to track down what that means, it comes up with some inane gobbledygook unrelated to anything you were doing.


on the plus side, it has been so long since I saw one of them, I am getting jaded about "how good windows is" :D
 
My friend has a Surface tablet, and I hate that damn thing.

you can't get anything done, unless I get it over to the Classic Desktop.
 
I'm still happy with Win 10 on my tablet, although frankly it does spend most of the time plugged into the TV's HDMI. Basically working as a set-top-box, for streaming websites or playing locally stored TVs shows and movies.
 
AZgl1500 said:
My friend has a Surface tablet, and I hate that damn thing.

you can't get anything done, unless I get it over to the Classic Desktop.
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I actually don't use the tablet mode its practically useless unless you're in bed and doing some light things. The desktop mode is what made me love it. Carrying a portable desktop is just glorious and if I need it for more important and heavy work I'll just attach it on my keyboard dock and do my thing.

I'm having a more fun and exciting experience compared to my android tablet I have for more than 6 months now and the Ipad that my uni issued that I ditched after 1 trimester overall in just a month on this device.

I still love android on smartphone but I'm looking at windows as my go to tablet os from now on.
 
We went to Best Buy and purchased a cable kit to let him use a 24" monitor with the Surface.

he turns wooden bowls, and needs to see which picture is "best" to put up on his website.
the tiny screen on the Surface is useless for that sort of thing.
He likes the "overall" effectiveness of the Surface as it is tiny, he can carry it everywhere, and when he is away from home, he can show a prospective customer all of his work.

http://jimjamescreations.com/gallery/

Sunday, I was talking to him about it, and mentioned that he ought to put an USB external keyboard on it now that he can actually see what the pix look like...
that got him to thinking, and he said "ya know, I think I have one of those".... so we shall see.

the little device is snappy, the OS runs fast... but my biggest thing about the damn thing is, you cannot install anything on it. nothing.
everything I have tried to install, ie, a Slideshow viewer immediately stops with the message "This cannot be installed on this PC"

huh? a Windows OS and you can't install anything on it at all?
 
Thats weird, the main reason why I enjoyed my tablet is because I can install windows programs and game in it. Either from external cd rom, freeware or from the appstore works fine for me.

I'm able to use my game engine to work on my game just fine with my tablet.

I'll take some pictures and upload them later
 
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AZgl1500 said:
We went to Best Buy and purchased a cable kit to let him use a 24" monitor with the Surface.

he turns wooden bowls, and needs to see which picture is "best" to put up on his website.
the tiny screen on the Surface is useless for that sort of thing.
He likes the "overall" effectiveness of the Surface as it is tiny, he can carry it everywhere, and when he is away from home, he can show a prospective customer all of his work.

http://jimjamescreations.com/gallery/

Sunday, I was talking to him about it, and mentioned that he ought to put an USB external keyboard on it now that he can actually see what the pix look like...
that got him to thinking, and he said "ya know, I think I have one of those".... so we shall see.

the little device is snappy, the OS runs fast... but my biggest thing about the damn thing is, you cannot install anything on it. nothing.
everything I have tried to install, ie, a Slideshow viewer immediately stops with the message "This cannot be installed on this PC"

huh? a Windows OS and you can't install anything on it at all?
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Could have been a Windows RT tablet. Because that version you can't just install anything on it, it's as locked and walled-garden as Windows Phone or Apple iOS, i.e. it's apps from the Microsoft Store only. Windows RT is now discontinued AFAIK. Because all the Windows tablets I've seen recently, including the Ramos i9s I've got, are running regular desktop Windows, and that can install any Windows PC programs.

Another thing, Windows RT is for ARM processors, so it's not going to be running x86 PC programs anyway.
FYI :thumbsupdroid:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_RT
 
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The guys in the Best Buy store told us it was ancient, "Gen II" version.... and finding adapters for it was hard... they had to go back in their office and pulled out an 'open box' adapter and gave that to us. at least that discounted the price by a hefty margin.
 
OK, that sounds like it's a Windows RT version Surface, i.e. "ancient". Technology changed, Intel came along with their Atom x86 mobile CPUs, which can run x86 desktop Windows with a good performance, and still have a great battery life. And then it was, who the hell wants a Windows tablet that cant run the same software that runs on a PC. I know it's great battery life, because there was an 8 year old Mongolian boy, playing Asphalt 8 all day on my Ramos. :D


BTW when it comes to adapters for the Chinese, Win 10 tablet I've got, It's got micro-USB which supports OTG, and HDMI video. So it's pretty standard stuff. Like a cheap HDMI cable, and can plug straight into a large monitor, TV or projector, provided it has HDMI.

Oh yeh, the Windows tablet does get a lot of use, running through the day's lesson materials.
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