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Windows 10, Yay or Nay?

Been using that for a week on my old win 7 box... And working like a charm.

Have also got a win 10 lappy for experimental purposes ;)

But I can understand why Steve is staying put at win 7 (until he retires and buys a mac ;) )

Big fan of security now... Something everyone here should listen to.
 
jefboyardee said:
Our Windows 10 uninstallation utility lets you or anyone you know quickly and easily revert back to Windows 7 or Windows 8… painlessly.
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I stopped chemo because the side effects suck.

... No the cancer is still there, I'm still dying, but at least my hair looks good now.
 
jefboyardee said:
Going backwards is all the rage...


Our Windows 10 uninstallation utility lets you or anyone you know quickly and easily revert back to Windows 7 or Windows 8… painlessly.​
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yes, it does work, but only for 29 days from the time Win10 was installed...
on the 30th day, Win10 deletes the directory containing all of the Win7 files/etc... after that, you better have an Image Copy or the Win7 install disc.
 
jefboyardee said:
Another preventer:

Never 10
Easily Control Automatic and Unwanted
Windows 7 & 8.1 Upgrading to Windows 10

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...had to disable my AV to run it, no idea if it's working.
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jefboyardee said:
'Never10' Tool Stops Accidental Windows 10 Upgrades

Gibson, a security expert, was also quick to note that the utility employs the DigiCert SHA256 security certificate, which is relatively new and, according to Gibson, "currently makes Microsoft nervous." So, upon running the app, users will be required to click "More Info" from the SmartScreen warning and then "Run anyway" to get it up and running.​
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jefboyardee said:
From Never10, an interesting confirmation of my suspicion that GWX ain't no good...

The GWX Control Panel (an early popular solution at 2.4 megabytes) was a useful first step. But it was wrong in too many ways. Its design and operation seemed ill suited to the simple task of preventing upgrades to Windows 10. It was confusing and offered an array of actions, options and status reports, when all anyone really wanted was simply for Windows to not upgrade itself and to leave us alone. Instead, the GWX Control Panel makes itself the center of attention. It needs to be “installed”, is resident and persistent afterward, and it pops up all the time to tell us what a great job it's doing... which is exactly the kind of nonsense most people are fed up with in this era where “your attention” is what commercial interests all want to obtain more of. But more than anything, none of that was necessary . . .​
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jefboyardee said:
I'm not sure I even needed to hide this anymore, or even the known-bad 3035583, because Never10 seems to be working so well...
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You're late!

mikedt said:
Here's a useful tool I heard about on Security Now podcast.
https://www.grc.com/never10.htm
Never 10..."Easily Control Automatic and Unwanted
Windows 7 & 8.1 Upgrading to Windows 10"


Very small and doesn't have to be installed. Written by Steve Gibson, so I know this will be OK. :thumbsupdroid:
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psionandy said:
Been using that for a week on my old win 7 box... And working like a charm.

Have also got a win 10 lappy for experimental purposes ;)

But I can understand why Steve is staying put at win 7 (until he retires and buys a mac ;) )

Big fan of security now... Something everyone here should listen to.
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I've been listening to Security Now since it started, and is the only tech podcast I listen to regularly. And FWIW it was really experiences of using Windows in China that got me more interested in Macs primarily and Linux as well. I'm happy with Win 10 now, there's no more "Home Basic" crap or special "PRC edition" of Windows, which happened with Vista and Win 7.

FWIW I can't imagine Steve Gibson actually retiring, like he seems to spend most of his days in Starbucks apparently. Perhaps sales of Spinrite are drying up. don't need it with an SSD.
 
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Spinrite will not work on modern HDD's anyway.

I recently lost some data on a laptop that is only 5 years old, and tried to use my old copy of Spinrite and it will not access the drive.... In fact, if you go to his website, he makes a statement to that effect.
 
Borrowed this from @Lordvincent 90
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jefboyardee said:
An eensy PC that doesn't run, I think, on Win7.

Kangaroo Mobile Desktop Computer KJ2B#001-NA Intel Atom X5-Z8500 (1.44 GHz) 2 GB LPDDR3 32 GB eMMC Windows 10 Home

$99.99

THE WORLD'S SMALLEST PERSONAL, POWERFUL, PORTABLE PC.
Your Windows 10 computer anywhere on any screen.
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It's a commodity Chinese device, there's a lot around now, along with low cost Win 10 tablets. Thanks to x86 Intel Atom mobile processors. It won't run Win 7 or older properly though, no drivers. They'll run Ubuntu though.

Also Microsoft has made pre-installed Windows 10 licensing and activation very easy for these types of devices. One thing there's no activation codes for them, basically they're preactivated.

There's no visible user product key with these things.
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This is my tablet.

Upgrade to Win 10 Professional for £99.99. Well I only paid equivalent of that for the tablet in the first place. :D
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Although I'm in China, it's all set to UK.
 
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So Windows decided to update my laptop with the latest from Microsoft. I've spent a couple of days setting up my system, and after the update, here's what it looks like after booting. Nice :)

Now where's my Ubuntu 14.04 install disk?


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Ha! Now we are talking! 2 external monitor setup (VGA + HDMI). And to be fair, Ubuntu could not do this.
Win 10 has redeeming features. I'm happy :D


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AZgl1500 said:
Well, Microsoft is really trying to stick to us again.... that is, if you are going to use Win10.

Now they have put a Block on Google....... they have made it impossible to search Google from Cortana or any of the Native Win10 software.

The only way you can get to Google now, is to use a Browser and go around Win10

http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/28/11532474/windows-10-block-google-search-cortana-bing-edge
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Didn't update Windows10 on my new laptop and installed Chrome browser just fine. Will it make the browser F/C if I update or something?
 
it should not effect an individual browser, ie, the Chrome browser you installed.

Win10 wants you to use their 'Edge' IIRC?? a replacement for the old Internet Explorer.
I just never could get comfortable with Win10 and formatted my new laptop and went to Linux.

My desktop PC, will remain on Win7 forever and a day. It has "Never10" installed so it stays that way.
 
bcrichster said:
Didn't update Windows10 on my new laptop and installed Chrome browser just fine. Will it make the browser F/C if I update or something?
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As far as I can tell from theverge link, this affects only the builtin search of Cortana (possibly Edge?) and has no effect on alternate browsers. If you haven't disabled Cortana already, do so. The method here works (see the first reply by by "tohkai"). Although I simply renamed it vs deleting, this effectively kills it. Note that you will need to (makes it easier) take ownership of the: Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.WindowsCortana_xxx folder to do so. The builtin Win10 search (i.e. Cortana) will no longer work, but installing Classic Shell still enables/allows searching on JUST your computer, so install that (much better that the convoluted stock menu anyway).

Win10 updates will almost certainly break this tweak, but I have effectively disabled these since prior to the big November update by setting my WiFi to a metered connection. I simply don't connect this laptop via Ethernet to keep it that way. You also need to make this setting on any alternate WiFi connections you may use/create. Do it immediately upon connecting so it doesn't get the chance to do so. Should you need to connect your laptop via Ethernet (to perform a backup or something), simply block internet access of the Laptop via your router settings. If in doubt, kill Internet access for everything until you're finished.

This particular laptop is the only computer I (still) have with Win10 on it only because I haven't found the time to do a clean install of Win7. I dual boot it with Lubuntu as my primary OS anyway.
 
Fox Mulder said:
Here's a Windows 10 lol-
http://www.engadget.com/2016/04/28/windows-10-update-live-tv/

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Bahahahahh! Nice.. [emoji12]
Father Guido said:
As far as I can tell from theverge link, this affects only the builtin search of Cortana (possibly Edge?) and has no effect on alternate browsers. If you haven't disabled Cortana already, do so. The method here works (see the first reply by by "tohkai"). Although I simply renamed it vs deleting, this effectively kills it. Note that you will need to (makes it easier) take ownership of the: Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.WindowsCortana_xxx folder to do so. The builtin Win10 search (i.e. Cortana) will no longer work, but installing Classic Shell still enables/allows searching on JUST your computer, so install that (much better that the convoluted stock menu anyway).

Win10 updates will almost certainly break this tweak, but I have effectively disabled these since prior to the big November update by setting my WiFi to a metered connection. I simply don't connect this laptop via Ethernet to keep it that way. You also need to make this setting on any alternate WiFi connections you may use/create. Do it immediately upon connecting so it doesn't get the chance to do so. Should you need to connect your laptop via Ethernet (to perform a backup or something), simply block internet access of the Laptop via your router settings. If in doubt, kill Internet access for everything until you're finished.

This particular laptop is the only computer I (still) have with Win10 on it only because I haven't found the time to do a clean install of Win7. I dual boot it with Lubuntu as my primary OS anyway.
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Hey, thank you for the heads up!
 
Well... The only thing I every used Hyperterminal for was configuring switches, so installing Putty on a win7/8/10 box is not a real hardship
 
psionandy said:
Well... The only thing I every used Hyperterminal for was configuring switches, so installing Putty on a win7/8/10 box is not a real hardship
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Yeah, but it sucks that they took it out when it was always there.
I occasionally have to work with various gear that uses a serial interface and it's convenient having that capability in the OS without having to install anything. It's not like those few tiny files are hogging any significant space or resources, why not leave them alone? Oh right, because MS-
 
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