sfbloodbrother
Extreme Android User
That's way beyond my day. I haven't a clue what was said.
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Would you ever own a mac?
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That's way beyond my day. I haven't a clue what was said.
nickdalzell
Extreme Android User
i486s were pretty much not that long ago for me. i was around during the CP/M and DOS days, if you want something truly cryptic. don't forget TRS-DOS
Sure going to be able to run Linux on our much cherished Compaq Presario 7222 Pentium.
Running one as the living room HTPC and the Core Duo before it is the bedroom HTPC.
nickdalzell
Extreme Android User
i have a similar problem with Chromebooks.
My Mac is sitting idle on the counter, haven't used it since last Sunday. it's a fun machine and i admit it's very nice to look at, and well made. it's just, i don't do large laptops except on weekends. tiny trailer plus smallsy couch = need small daily use computer.
I had a crapload of older Macs up to an iMac G3, (very first CRT model). i remember old MacOS being awful. everytime something went wrong, it brought down the entire OS, required a rather lengthy reboot. sometimes i got the 'sad Mac' and some odd sound (you should see or rather hear the dramatic score the Performa 6300 series plays). my iMac G3 played the sound of a car wreck. Apple humor. not amused. it happened so often, sometimes just looking at MacOS, nothing running at all caused one of those 'bomb errors' to display. for no real reason. Zap the PRAM! often the first advice from a Mac forum. they got really hotheaded when you claimed Windows was more reliable. but i never had the older Mac that didn't crash far more often than Windows.
I had many Macs. from my first Classic to a Powerbook, to a Performa 4/66 and 6300, PowerMac 733, tons. they all ended up in the bin, at the end of their rather short lives. let's just say i'm happy that despite the classic look of OS X (it still has the finder and a lot of OS 9.1's stuff) it has definitely improved tenfold on stability.
My Mac is sitting idle on the counter, haven't used it since last Sunday. it's a fun machine and i admit it's very nice to look at, and well made. it's just, i don't do large laptops except on weekends. tiny trailer plus smallsy couch = need small daily use computer.
I had a crapload of older Macs up to an iMac G3, (very first CRT model). i remember old MacOS being awful. everytime something went wrong, it brought down the entire OS, required a rather lengthy reboot. sometimes i got the 'sad Mac' and some odd sound (you should see or rather hear the dramatic score the Performa 6300 series plays). my iMac G3 played the sound of a car wreck. Apple humor. not amused. it happened so often, sometimes just looking at MacOS, nothing running at all caused one of those 'bomb errors' to display. for no real reason. Zap the PRAM! often the first advice from a Mac forum. they got really hotheaded when you claimed Windows was more reliable. but i never had the older Mac that didn't crash far more often than Windows.
I had many Macs. from my first Classic to a Powerbook, to a Performa 4/66 and 6300, PowerMac 733, tons. they all ended up in the bin, at the end of their rather short lives. let's just say i'm happy that despite the classic look of OS X (it still has the finder and a lot of OS 9.1's stuff) it has definitely improved tenfold on stability.
Yesterday's Apple event solidifies the reasoning for paying the premium for the machine. Mavericks (major OS update) - FREE. iLife updates, ALL FREE. iWork (Apple's Office suite) now free with a Mac.
I have Mavericks on my Mac now but I haven't gone through all the new features yet. I spent yesterday evening installing it and all the updates I needed. Tonight I hope to play around with it more, alongside reading John Siracusa's review OS X 10.9 Mavericks: The Ars Technica Review | Ars Technica The only review you need (24 pages!).
I have Mavericks on my Mac now but I haven't gone through all the new features yet. I spent yesterday evening installing it and all the updates I needed. Tonight I hope to play around with it more, alongside reading John Siracusa's review OS X 10.9 Mavericks: The Ars Technica Review | Ars Technica The only review you need (24 pages!).
Safari works like Chrome, the Finder has tabs (why??), and the stuff that the Lions broke moving away from Snow Leopard acts like pre-Lion now (Address Book and Calendar back to near-Leopard appearance and multiple screen management is back to how it was before).
Sounds good to me.
Did they stop breaking things that allowed Android to work, like AFT?
Sounds good to me.
Did they stop breaking things that allowed Android to work, like AFT?
nickdalzell
Extreme Android User
Wait, Mavericks launched already? What does it look like? Does it bring the iOS 7 look to the Mac? I know it's inevitable...
Rather the opposite. See the Ars link above.
nickdalzell
Extreme Android User
I'm more curious how he got the update. It hasn't showed up on my Pro yet.
I see the Dock is still 3D. Shouldn't it have gone all 2D and Flat UI, used solid pastel shades as is the current fashion and would be more in-line with iOS 7.
nickdalzell
Extreme Android User
Perhaps Forstall shunted out one last iteration before Ive came on board for OS X?
However, if you're so curious...
However, if you're so curious...
iLife and iWork free only for new machine buyers.
SlashGear: iLife and iWork free limits surface as apps overtake charts. http://google.com/producer/s/CBIw9ufnwQ0
SlashGear: iLife and iWork free limits surface as apps overtake charts. http://google.com/producer/s/CBIw9ufnwQ0
The iLife and iWork updates are free for new machine buyers AND for those that had a previous version, so I got the iLife update once 10.9 installed.
Yes, Mavericks is available now, it was available the day of the event. nickdalzell, what Mac do you have? What OS are you running? Funny enough, it took all of 20 minutes to download the 5.29 GB installer on my 30 Mb connection, and I started at 5 PM EDT.
Yes, Mavericks is available now, it was available the day of the event. nickdalzell, what Mac do you have? What OS are you running? Funny enough, it took all of 20 minutes to download the 5.29 GB installer on my 30 Mb connection, and I started at 5 PM EDT.
nickdalzell
Extreme Android User
2012-era MacBook Pro 13" with OS X Mountain Lion. The only software update so far was a security update. The app store has yet to offer me an OS update...
It won't show as an app update. Find it in the MAS and "purchase" it. Actually, now that I think about it, it DID show on my updates page, promoting the upgrade, not as an installable update but as a link to the app store page for it.
So far VERY impressed with battery life improvements, Activity Monitor reports close to NINE HOURS of battery life browsing the web on my mid-2012 15" MBP (non-retina).
nickdalzell
Extreme Android User
So I'm guessing that unlike my iDevices it won't be that easy to have it just give it to me...
Do you expect them to just push it down to your machine?
Launch the MAS, click the "Free Upgrade" button next to Mavericks on the front page. Click Download (or whatever the button changes to). Once the 5.3 GB download is complete, launch the updater from your Launchpad and wait an hour or so for it to complete.
Launch the MAS, click the "Free Upgrade" button next to Mavericks on the front page. Click Download (or whatever the button changes to). Once the 5.3 GB download is complete, launch the updater from your Launchpad and wait an hour or so for it to complete.
nickdalzell
Extreme Android User
To be honest I did expect it to work a bit like the iPad and iPhone, yes.
EDIT: and...i was correct. i just got the notification and it's downloading now. it actually does push to the App Store as an 'update' just like an iOS upgrade.
EDIT: and...i was correct. i just got the notification and it's downloading now. it actually does push to the App Store as an 'update' just like an iOS upgrade.
This was a major OS update. Get the notification and it's up to you if you wish to proceed or not. I wouldn't suddenly want to find 5GB of data being pushed through unsolicited, especially on a metered cellular connection. Even the regular OS X bug fix and security patches are not pushed through automatically. Software Update gives you a notification by jumping up and down like a Jack Russell terrier in the Dock, although I've turned the jumping notification thing off now because it was annoying.
Windows default is to push the patch Tuesday updates through automatically and in the background. You can change it to notify me when when the updates are available, and not to push them through unsolicited. But unless you're a techy or geek you might not know that.
I've actually seen a few frustrated teachers that wish to use their laptops for lessons, and Windows has spontaneously gone into an unresponsive state with something like "DO NOT UNPLUG YOUR COMPUTER. PLEASE WAIT WHILE UPDATES ARE INSTALLED."....and then there's a classroom full of students that didn't get the lesson that they're supposed to have, and the teacher has to resort to the old fashioned method of blackboard and chalk instead of using modern technology. With Mac OS X and GNU/Linux you can actually still use the computer while they're running the updates, not so with Windows apparently.
nickdalzell
Extreme Android User
they call it a 'major' update but i don't notice anything. although i am happy that it hasn't taken on the same skin as iOS 7 (although we all know it is inevitable since they prefer to keep the same UI across devices both laptop and tablet, phone, etc. ) i am left a bit empty as it seems nothing has really changed except the OS version. the only change i notice is that my login screen has ditched the fake linen of iOS and now my deer wallpaper adorns the screen, a nice modification, but nothing warranting over 5GB of hard drive space being occupied.
nickdalzell
Extreme Android User
it didn't leave a 'disk drive' icon the way other programs do that can be dragged to trash. i thought that was the actual install amount? it updated through the App Store much like the way a normal app update does. it didn't actually download an image and mount it.
Still left wondering what, besides the name itself, was done. they called it a 'major update' but i see nothing. i kinda expected it to go all iOS 7 on me but I am glad it didn't. but what exactly was done? the info online is vague. it feels more like an incremental upgrade if you ask me. i read this and that about '200 new features and a better battery life' but it looks like Mountain Lion to me. i had to do a double-check of the 'About this Mac' screen to verify it actually upgraded.
As i said the only noticeable change was the login screen itself, plus the addition of two apps that previously were not installed (Maps and iBooks, which i fail to see their usefulness on a laptop without GPS capability)
Still left wondering what, besides the name itself, was done. they called it a 'major update' but i see nothing. i kinda expected it to go all iOS 7 on me but I am glad it didn't. but what exactly was done? the info online is vague. it feels more like an incremental upgrade if you ask me. i read this and that about '200 new features and a better battery life' but it looks like Mountain Lion to me. i had to do a double-check of the 'About this Mac' screen to verify it actually upgraded.
As i said the only noticeable change was the login screen itself, plus the addition of two apps that previously were not installed (Maps and iBooks, which i fail to see their usefulness on a laptop without GPS capability)
You wouldn't really want it to go IOS 7 like would you? Or even worse Windows 8 like? I'd suspect a good percentage of those 200 new features are probably additional fonts and language support. Maybe OS X can finally speak Mongolian or Welsh?