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How are new versions of unrevoked released? And how will we know if it will work on our specific devices? I wouldn't have known about the 3.30+ issue from reading their webpage - luckily I stumbled across this forum before trying it.
 
I don't believe unrevoked has released a new version yet.. last I heard they were still in beta testing.
 
Matlock said:
I swear.. this Wireless Tether is giving people hell..

Do you have a connection when not using Access Control?
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well I have rooted my evo on 11/30 and I had the same problem with the wireless tether,but after read like a tousand of reviews I found that all you need to do is install the updated version of wireless tether and done.



HO!! great tutorial it is really for dumies.
I learned a lot.Thanks

;);)
God Bles TX.
 
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Originally Posted by carhauler1969
Cool, thanks Matlock.

I flashed Ziggy's kernel that he built for Calkulin's EViO 2 ROM that I'm currently running & it seems to have stabilized things within the ROM. But... ClockWork's recovery was still acting flaky last night. If I see any more issues in recovery I'll have to switch to AmonRa.]]

:mad: "Seems" being the operative word here. I was having an issue yesterday where I had no notification sounds while my phone was plugged in on charge only. Today (Tuesday) I had no notification sounds at all, NONE, plugged in or not. Tried to change ringtones, none in the ringtone picker, WTF? Tried changing notification sounds, only one on the phone, the Facebook "pop", that's it, thats all...

So I backed everything up in TB, did a nand backup, wiped the caches, & reflashed the rom & kernel. Rebooted, STILL NO NOTIFICATION OR RINGTONE SOUND!!! :mad::confused::mad:

Used ROM Manager & installed Amon Ra's recovery, backed up everything again in TB, booted recovery, wiped everything twice, rebooted recovery, wiped it again, & reflashed the ROM & kernel AGAIN, rebooted... NOW I have all of the notification & ringtone sounds!!! :eek::rolleyes::D

I wouldn't think the ClockWorkMod recovery image could cause these types of problems, & stability issues. I'm new to rooting, roms, & everything that goes with it. Call me crazy, but with the well known developers here & at XDA almost everyone is aware of the dalvik cache wiping issues, & says to use Amon Ra. So why are we using ClockWork?
 
carhauler1969 said:
Call me crazy, but with the well known developers here & at XDA almost everyone is aware of the dalvik cache wiping issues, & says to use Amon Ra. So why are we using ClockWork?
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I agree with you completely, however it is preference. I think there would be a lot more people using AMON RA if rom manager would work with it.
 
wrapkgb said:
I agree with you completely, however it is preference. I think there would be a lot more people using AMON RA if rom manager would work with it.
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True, it is rather daunting to a noob like myself. I actually found another app like ROM Manager, called A4D that specifies Amon Ra, but it hasn't been updated since September, & the dev's website has most of the links removed, & the ROM database is MIA.
I did a lot of reading before using this guide, & a lot more after rooting, & flashing my first ROM / kernel, & I'm still reading.
IMO, Rom Manager almost makes it too easy since you can do nearly everything inside Android. Although, after the last 2 days of having to repeatedly mess around in recovery I am much more comfortable with it. Amon Ra seems to have a much more streamlined UI, definitely more functions, & seems to execute commands faster than ClockWork. Bonus, if I tell it to wipe the dalvik cache, it gets wiped, lol.

Since reflashing yesterday afternoon with Amon Ra I've had zero glitches in the rom, & none of the flakiness i.e. apps disappearing, no sound, etc., that I had from the get go on a known to be very stable rom & kernel combination. :D
 
Awesome post...never come accross such a basic and apt guide for rooting...very useful for noobs like me :)
have a few questions...hope u can help with them
1. Will my phone work perfectly with everything fine..after i root coz i don plan on flashing a rom...will i face any probs on the phone after rooting ?
2. Does flashing a rom always wipe data on ur phone ? Will i lose my network settings after i flash a rom ?
3. just to confirm...my build nd software is 3.26...hope it will work fine ?
4. i m basically rooting to remove bloatware and wifi tether(not necessary though)..u js posted how to freeze...is there a way i can completely wipe them off without any prob?...i dont plan on doing an OTA update in the near future...

thanx
 
1)Yes
2)Flashing a ROM does not wipe your data. BUT, it is HIGHLY recommended that YOU wipe it to prevent any problems with the install(see your fear in question number 1)
3)Unrevoked should work fine
4)You can delete bloatware but it is not recommended. If you don't plan on doing an OTA update in the future, then how are you going to keep your phone updated. I will not do an OTA but I will keep updated by flashing updated ROMs.....
 
4)You can delete bloatware but it is not recommended.
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Why isnt it recommended...are there some files that are needed for other apps or the phone to work properly ?
If you don't plan on doing an OTA update in the future, then how are you going to keep your phone updated. I will not do an OTA but I will keep updated by flashing updated ROMs.....
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as far as my needs go...froyo has everything to offer...and there are apps as well if needed:)

until there is something extraordinary i m not going to update :)
 
Im not sure why people say not to delete the bloat and just freeze it... When you accept an OTA update from Sprint, the update looks for certain files on your phone (ie the bloatware), so if its gone you wont be able to install the OTA. With that said, when you are rooted you NEVER want to accept an OTA update. Go ahead and delete the bloat. If you need it back just flash a stock rooted rom, which will bring you back to exactly how the phone was right after you rooted it. :)
 
wrapkgb said:
Im not sure why people say not to delete the bloat and just freeze it... When you accept an OTA update from Sprint, the update looks for certain files on your phone (ie the bloatware), so if its gone you wont be able to install the OTA. With that said, when you are rooted you NEVER want to accept an OTA update. Go ahead and delete the bloat. If you need it back just flash a stock rooted rom, which will bring you back to exactly how the phone was right after you rooted it. :)
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Sorry but I need to correct you on that one.

You do not want to delete actual System Applications from your device. Like you said, doing so will prevent any OTA (Over The Air) Updates from installing to your device because it looks for particular system applications to make sure it is correct. If you delete what just happens to be one of those particular system apps that OTA is looking for, it will not take.

That said, if you delete the particular system application, and need to Unroot your device because.. Lets say your Micro USB port broke.. if the Tech who is working on your phone, or even the Sprint Rep., notices your phone is tampered with IE: ROOTED, they can have your Warranty Voided and your insurance revoked.

Once again, uninstalling/deleting system apps can lead you in a bad situation if the right person(s) find out. Or if you just want to unroot your device. Save yourself some trouble and FREEZE them.
 
Matlock said:
Sorry but I need to correct you on that one.

You do not want to delete actual System Applications from your device. Like you said, doing so will prevent any OTA (Over The Air) Updates from installing to your device because it looks for particular system applications to make sure it is correct. If you delete what just happens to be one of those particular system apps that OTA is looking for, it will not take.

That said, if you delete the particular system application, and need to Unroot your device because.. Lets say your Micro USB port broke.. if the Tech who is working on your phone, or even the Sprint Rep., notices your phone is tampered with IE: ROOTED, they can have your Warranty Voided and your insurance revoked.

Once again, uninstalling/deleting system apps can lead you in a bad situation if the right person(s) find out. Or if you just want to unroot your device. Save yourself some trouble and FREEZE them.
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How about we agree to disagree ;) And just so we are on the same page...

1. If you delete any bloatware which are system apps, they CAN be restored. Either go over to XDA and find the APK you deleted OR flash a stock rooted rom.

2. Accepting OTA's should not be an issue, if you are rooted the rule of thumb is don't accept any OTA update. There are numerous reasons why this is dangerous. Remember when Sprint pushed out the 3.29 OTA? 3.29 came with a new hboot .97 whereas 3.26 had hboot .93 (i think, + or -) so if you accepted an OTA your hboot was replaced and caused you to be unrooted. Well normally that would not be a problem but at the time 3.29 was not rootalbe by Unrevoked and caused people to be unrooted with S-OFF. Not good. So plain and simple same yourself trouble and don't accept OTA's.

3. As a fail safe for all rooted users, keep a Stock rooted rom on your SD card at all times, then if you do need to get back to completely stock you have a way. Or as soon as you root make a nand back-up so if there is ever a problem you can restore and revert back to bone stock no mods.

My venting is doing lol. Everyone has there own preference of doing things when it comes to rooting, so to each there own. No way of doing this is better than the other. And good thing we have a bunch of bitchin' people over here to help out when others are in need! I've been there before and I'm sure I'll be there again at some point!

Matlock I don't mean any disrespect! I promise! :D You wrote a sweet guide that has helped countless people! Kudos to you my friend and keep up the good work!
 
Rooted my Evo this weekend using the awesome instruction here but now I'm having a problem connecting my Evo to my computer. I see it's charging but I get no notification in the status bar that it's "charging only" and I have USB debugging disabled. Any thoughts or ideas??

Oh also get an error message when I try Menu>Settings>Connect to PC

"Sorry! The applicaiton Settings (process com.android.settings) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again.....Force Close" :confused:
 
girlienerd said:
Rooted my Evo this weekend using the awesome instruction here but now I'm having a problem connecting my Evo to my computer. I see it's charging but I get no notification in the status bar that it's "charging only" and I have USB debugging disabled. Any thoughts or ideas??

Oh also get an error message when I try Menu>Settings>Connect to PC

"Sorry! The applicaiton Settings (process com.android.settings) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again.....Force Close" :confused:
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Are you on a stock rooted rom or a custom rom? Is your SD card working properly?

Hmmm... First thing I would try is go into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik, then reboot. See if that fixes it. If not do you have a nandroid? You can either restore a nandroid or reflash the rom.
 
wrapkgb said:
Are you on a stock rooted rom or a custom rom? Is your SD card working properly?

Hmmm... First thing I would try is go into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik, then reboot. See if that fixes it. If not do you have a nandroid? You can either restore a nandroid or reflash the rom.
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I'm on stock rom, haven't done anything custom yet. The SD card is working fine. Have access to all the apps and music on the phone just not via my computer.

I'll try wiping the cache and dalvik and I do have nandroid so I'll try that next. Will post what happens.

Thanks!
 
I'm on a stock rom and getting stuck on step 10 of the unrooting process. When I was in the boot screen - the white ones with the droids on the bottom - it's not acknowledging that the usb is plugged in.

Is there another way to unroot?
 
I've cleared cache and davlik, flashed the rom, tried a different computer and a different cord and nothing will let me connect to a PC or Mac. I guess I'm doomed to go back to stock :(
 
Let me preface this question by noting that I understand that it's not an exact science and I'm not looking for anything specific. With that said, what is the normal turnaround for an update to unrevoked after a new software update comes out? When are people anticipating that it will be updated to work with 3.30? Is it usually a matter of days, weeks, months, etc.?

Thinking of rooting, but just got my EVO a bit ago, and it came loaded with 3.30, so that's what I'm stuck with. I gather there may be some workarounds, but if there is an easy way to do it coming right around the corner, I'd just as soon wait...
 
AnjitheBeast said:
I'm on a stock rom and getting stuck on step 10 of the unrooting process. When I was in the boot screen - the white ones with the droids on the bottom - it's not acknowledging that the usb is plugged in.

Is there another way to unroot?
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There is an option in recovery to load the pc36img per step 11. If that still wont work just reboot your phone normally and place the file on the SD card that way. Then continue through the process.
 
girlienerd said:
I've cleared cache and davlik, flashed the rom, tried a different computer and a different cord and nothing will let me connect to a PC or Mac. I guess I'm doomed to go back to stock :(
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Are you clearing data aswell as the caches? Also what rom are you flashing? Don't give up and unroot just yet. I'm sure you can get it figured out!
 
toasty said:
Let me preface this question by noting that I understand that it's not an exact science and I'm not looking for anything specific. With that said, what is the normal turnaround for an update to unrevoked after a new software update comes out? When are people anticipating that it will be updated to work with 3.30? Is it usually a matter of days, weeks, months, etc.?

Thinking of rooting, but just got my EVO a bit ago, and it came loaded with 3.30, so that's what I'm stuck with. I gather there may be some workarounds, but if there is an easy way to do it coming right around the corner, I'd just as soon wait...
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It all depends on the OTA that sprint pushes out. Phone with the new software 3.30 it also included a new hboot 2.02. They have to find a new exploit and then write the software to root the phone. It can be weeks to months. From what there twitter said it shouldn't be too much longer.
 
toasty said:
Let me preface this question by noting that I understand that it's not an exact science and I'm not looking for anything specific. With that said, what is the normal turnaround for an update to unrevoked after a new software update comes out? When are people anticipating that it will be updated to work with 3.30? Is it usually a matter of days, weeks, months, etc.?
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I follow Unrevoked on Twitter. A tweet from them yesterday said this:
(the rc will be for the Inc; Evo folks, there are solutions for you now on XDA right now, but we haven't tested them yet. you guys are next.)
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So I suspect we should be seeing an updated Unrevoked for our Evo very soon - I'd guess within the next couple weeks.
 
wrapkgb said:
How about we agree to disagree ;) And just so we are on the same page...

1. If you delete any bloatware which are system apps, they CAN be restored. Either go over to XDA and find the APK you deleted OR flash a stock rooted rom.

2. Accepting OTA's should not be an issue, if you are rooted the rule of thumb is don't accept any OTA update. There are numerous reasons why this is dangerous. Remember when Sprint pushed out the 3.29 OTA? 3.29 came with a new hboot .97 whereas 3.26 had hboot .93 (i think, + or -) so if you accepted an OTA your hboot was replaced and caused you to be unrooted. Well normally that would not be a problem but at the time 3.29 was not rootalbe by Unrevoked and caused people to be unrooted with S-OFF. Not good. So plain and simple same yourself trouble and don't accept OTA's.

3. As a fail safe for all rooted users, keep a Stock rooted rom on your SD card at all times, then if you do need to get back to completely stock you have a way. Or as soon as you root make a nand back-up so if there is ever a problem you can restore and revert back to bone stock no mods.

My venting is doing lol. Everyone has there own preference of doing things when it comes to rooting, so to each there own. No way of doing this is better than the other. And good thing we have a bunch of bitchin' people over here to help out when others are in need! I've been there before and I'm sure I'll be there again at some point!

Matlock I don't mean any disrespect! I promise! :D You wrote a sweet guide that has helped countless people! Kudos to you my friend and keep up the good work!
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If you have a Safe Nandroid back up along with a good Titanium Back Up (in the nandroid for apps and system settings) then deleting the Bloatware after the Nandroid causes you no hardship as you can just recover from the Nandroid when Bloatware is necessary.

Problem Solved.
 
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