***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

[dmiller2007]

And I've seen the ICS press, but I was referring specifically to several Nexii - Moto Nexus, Sammy Nexus, HTC Nexus - possible with ICS. I'd thought that was what the tweets were saying.

This is the only thing i could find about the multiple launch. it doesn't specifically say nexuses but i don't think BMX does either. or i don't think thats what he meant. i took it just as stock ICS devices

BGR: ‘Google Nexus Prime’ and other Ice Cream Sandwich devices to ship this Fall | 9to5Google | Beyond Good and Evil

Perhaps most interestingly, they say there won

 

[92hatchattack]

Steven, or anyone else that knows... will the Announcment next week be just for the Verizon phone, or will it annouce the other phone for other carriers in the future as well? Any clue about this at all?

 

[AntimonyER]

This is the only thing i could find about the multiple launch. it doesn't specifically say nexuses but i don't think BMX does either. or i don't think thats what he meant. i took it just as stock ICS devices

BGR:

 

[Steven58]

Steven, or anyone else that knows... will the Announcment next week be just for the Verizon phone, or will it annouce the other phone for other carriers in the future as well? Any clue about this at all?

Dunno. I let you down.

 

[nypcdoc]

FWIW, I thought I'd mention that in my spam emails from Toys R Us, they link to Google Wallet - Toys "R" Us where it shows that they now accept Google Wallet at most of their locations.

NFC is probably about to take off and there is alot at stake. Especially with all of the bad PR recently released regarding banks charging a monthly fee for using your debit card. I say this is an opportune time for NFC to take off.

 

[OfTheDamned]

Steven, or anyone else that knows... will the Announcment next week be just for the Verizon phone, or will it annouce the other phone for other carriers in the future as well? Any clue about this at all?

It was said that they would be showing off ICS devices, but that could be a phone and a table or multiple phones or just a few tablets.

History usually shows the Nexus device being the first for a new OS though.

 

[dmiller2007]

Are you thinking that manufacturers are going to abandon their proprietary skins? Cause stock ICS means no skin doesn't it?

i doubt they will. but who knows what kind of deal can be agreed upon. but that is what that means. i remember seeing somewhere that google was hoping that ICS would be their "One OS to rule them all" kind of deal where they got rid of fragmentation and skins. but that was probably just someone's pipe dream put into words on a blog that people happened to stumble upon. kinda like BGR which i quoted earlier.

 

[92hatchattack]

Blah, i can wait .. I was planning on buying something in december. But unless I can take out another CC card it may have to wait till Jan anyway. LOL

 

[EarlyMon]

Are you thinking that manufacturers are going to abandon their proprietary skins? Cause stock ICS means no skin doesn't it?

Nexus One was made by HTC, so, not abandon Sense, just add vanilla Android to the line.

Why not?

 

[92hatchattack]

Are you thinking that manufacturers are going to abandon their proprietary skins? Cause stock ICS means no skin doesn't it?

I think its meant to mean that the phone will come stock (unmodified) with ICS on it. Skins will most likely still apply.

 

[BLD]

How many for-profit companies do you know that aren't trying to make money?

Never said they weren't or shouldn't be trying to make money. I was simply describing what they point of focus is.

 

[EarlyMon]

i doubt they will. but who knows what kind of deal can be agreed upon. but that is what that means. i remember seeing somewhere that google was hoping that ICS would be their "One OS to rule them all" kind of deal where they got rid of fragmentation and skins. but that was probably just someone's pipe dream put into words on a blog that people happened to stumble upon. kinda like BGR which i quoted earlier.

We thought that pre Gingerbread, too.

Everything changes.

 

[cereal killer]

Not to mention be extremely expensive since I imagine Sammy is pretty far into production if release day is planned for Nov. 3rd.

True. Verizon is backed into a corner. I don't know what to make of this right now.

My instincts tell me it's not going to release but I'm hoping Verizon is in too deep that they have to go through with it.

Dang!!!

 

[rushmore]

Dunno. I let you down.

Apparently it is a Moto event, so not seeing how Sammy will be part of it on the 18th. Maybe Sammy are announcing in the US on Nov 3 instead of actually launching the device then... Enough time to add a micro sd? If it were about four months ago, it would have been. Too late now if not one.

I am trying to will the feature into existence

 

[AntimonyER]

I have been thinking and I think that Steven has to be right, no way this phone gets killed. Even if Verizon has a problem because they have signed and agreement with Isis, Samsung, Google, and Motorola are much more important to Verizon than isis. Look at the Bing agreement. It made no sense and as far as I can tell bing does not play a large part in Verizon's android offerings anymore

 

[Steven58]

My student's iPhone just updated to the new OS. Pull-down notification menu and everything. Geesh. You don't see Google suing Apple over it.

 

[racerxe24]

True. Verizon is backed into a corner. I don't know what to make of this right now.

My instincts tell me it's not going to release but I'm hoping Verizon is in too deep that they have to go through with it.

Dang!!!

I just don't see how they can't go through with it. Way to late in the game. And this is something that should have been worked out many months ago. They are in too deep and I don't see them cutting off their noses for this. But I think this sucks royal arse if they can't get it figured out. Because this may sour VZN and Google's relationship. I hope it doesn't but business is business...

 

[Steven58]

My source said that had this all happened three months ago, it would have killed the deal. This indicates they are in it too deep to back out. No such thing as a little pregnant, you know. All-or-nothing.

 

[AntimonyER]

My student's iPhone just updated to the new OS. Pull-down notification menu and everything. Geesh. You don't see Google suing Apple over it.

Not yet

 

[nexus15]

I have a feeling about this. We're not going to lose out. There was some stuff I left out in my daily epistle. I can summarize without exposing anything. There's a level of VZW employee (most of them) that are super-psyched about this. It's an amazing phone. The end-users are gonna salivate. There's a higher level of VZW that is really anxious/tense about this because of the lack of control in corporate negotiations.

Adding everything up? We win. The announcement's already in the wind and these are the final backdoor/closed-door legal negotiations. Everyone wants it to succeed, but everyone wants to posture themselves in the best possible position, financially. Typical corporate stuff. It'll all be over soon. It'll all be revealed and when it is, we will all celebrate.

My sense? It's pretty much a done deal from our perspective.

These white collar corporate guys need to chill the F* out. Seriously.
Verizon you dropped the ball by loosing the original iPhone. Don't piss off Google to where they go back to making T-Mobile the first nexus carrier. With everyone but T-Mobile with an iPhone you don't want to hand off your gold star back to them.

Since Verizon are watching this thread I feel its important to remind them they need to chill out. Let Google do whatever the heck they want to do and stay out of their way. You are meant to be a dumb pipe. I say that with the most love possible since Sprint, AT&T, and T-Mobile should also be dumb pipes.

 

[BLD]

My student's iPhone just updated to the new OS. Pull-down notification menu and everything. Geesh. You don't see Google suing Apple over it.

Give Apple a month and they'll be claiming a patent for it and suing everyone claiming they invented it.

 

[dmiller2007]

We thought that pre Gingerbread, too.

Everything changes.

definitely. but i do think its more likely to happen in ICS. where they supposedly have hardware acceleration for the UI and they have made all the changes to the aesthetics of it. gingerbread wasn't that big of an upgrade to the average consumer.

*crosses fingers, looks for a shooting star, shoots a rabbit for its foot, and rubs a lucky penny*

 

[nkk]

Ahh..I was going to make a chart, but it seems that we are so close to the next thousand I will just do them both. Anyway...On the 9k.

-Nkk

 

[nexus15]

Are you thinking that manufacturers are going to abandon their proprietary skins? Cause stock ICS means no skin doesn't it?

I just realized that remember that 'android update alliance' or whatever they called it consisting of a few carriers and hardware manufacturers [this was presented at the most recent I/O event]? They didnt give too many specifics but they said updates were going to happen faster than we have been getting them. What If Google told the companies privately that ICS was on the way and it meant no skins. Basically put them on the edge of the cliff and told them they had to make a choice. This would all make sense as to why there wasnt more specific information released back then because ICS was just a very early thought and not anywhere nearly fleshed out.

Notice too that Touchwiz on honeycomb is basically some mini apps. No major skinning of the OS. Maybe from honeycomb onward (and ICS which IMO looks like honeycomb for phones, even though I know its much more than that) they are not allowed to skin devices. They see how well off Microsoft is by not allowing devices to be skinned.

 

[BlueBiker]

My source said that had this all happened three months ago, it would have killed the deal. This indicates they are in it too deep to back out. No such thing as a little pregnant, you know. All-or-nothing.

There's another way to look at that. It's also suggesting that the breach is serious enough that the companies wouldn't have been willing to figure out a solution 3mo ago. Well if it was serious then, it's still serious now (maybe even more so).

I'd also like to point out the sunk cost fallacy, meaning the huge investment in time and money resources thus far doesn't guarantee a deal will be made if one of the parties thinks they have even more to lose in the future if the deal goes ahead.