mthoren68 Just out of curiosity, how has Verizon been dangling the carrot? They have not announced anything about this phone other than a statement on their website that they will be carrying it. There have been no release dates that they've reneged on, no publicity, nothing. All we know, we know because of people snooping around FCC disclosures, and people talking to their sources and texting their sisters and hassling store managers and CSRs. If you want to be upset with someone, be upset with the people who have shared incorrect information. I just don't get the "I have a right to know" sense of entitlement. It would be nice to know, it would be fun to know, but since when does a company have any obligation at all to disclose information about something before it is released to market? It has been fun to speculate and pry and snoop and sleuth, but until the company announces a date, then reneges, this "I have a right to know I demand you tell me I'm no lemming dammit" stuff just sounds whiny.