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***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

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Holy crap! 42.451GB of data?

I thought I was using a lot when i was tapping about 4GB and that was with watching about 2 hours of NFL Redzone on Sundays with my regular usage.

Do tell, what could you be doing that is using that much data!

[Hide]Mobile Porn Addiction?[/Hide]
 

Wow, a glowing review. From BGR. Here is my summary of reading between the lines:

"Still not as easy as iOS to learn, and I am used to holding a 3.5" screen phone, but otherwise this phone is better than the iPhone, in just about every way."

(When fanboys say its comparable to the iPhone, you need to read it as: "Crap, its better".)
 
Just checked my VZW account....

20 days into billing cycle
2 minutes of voice
141 texts
42.451 GB of data

Can't wait for 4G speeds!

i just checked mine

15 days into billing cycle
515 total minutes (210peak/102off-peak/203M2M)
903 texts
232.813 MB of data (i'm assuming you meant MB as well, 42 GB of data on a phone would be insane! ;) )

Just saw your comment about it being your only internet, holy moley i was about to say thats insane data usage, being your only internet then that explains it. Thank god for unlimited data, if you had a 2GB plan you would be paying 400 dollars in overages ($10 per GB over x's 40GB)
 
So here is my theory for lunchtime. Verizon has stock, and there is nothing wrong with the phone. But from the outpouring of support for this phone on the interwebz, they know they don't have enough, and want to avoid an Incredible shortage fiasco part 2 (even though that wasn't their fault). They are waiting to get enough stock to probably make it through the storm, and are not exactly sure when they will be getting it, but right now Dec 7th (same as canada) is looking promising for a big shipment from Sammy. They ARE planning on a massive launch ad blitz, but want to make sure they don't jump the gun like the Thunderbolt, so are being tight-lipped about it. What do you think?

(Yes, my optimism has flared up again)
It's possible, but I'm still inclined to believe that VZW is holding the GNex back to keep Razr and Rezound sales from getting slaughtered.
 
Greetings everyone,

I have been a loooong time lurker here (since the beginning) and had a thought this morning to share. This may have been mentioned earlier in the thread or on another thread, so sorry if its repetitive. My thought is regarding Google releasing the source code for ICS when they did. I was thinking: could this be a shot at Verizon? It is curious to me that they release the code before the first ICS phone is released. Did they do this with the other Nexus phones? Not sure. But, releasing it when they did, knowing the communities appetite for quickly getting dev work out on their platform, it is not inconceivable that they wanted to leapfrog the Nexus as the first ICS phone. And, do it just as a big F U to Verizon for their shenanigans. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if we see a port of ICS for the GS2 or other competing carriers phones prior to the Nexus release.

Another point: I have no doubt that a pure Google experience, and the converse, a phone free of bloat is a hotly contested issue among the Verizon muckity mucks. Think about this: lets assume the average smartphone user spends $20 per year on Verizon bloat (my guess is it is a LOT more than that). Take the fact that Samsung has sold over 3 million GS2's since launch. That is a LOT of money made on bloat since they ALL have bloat. The Droid INC easily sold over a million units. I realize that I guessed on the $20/user, but think about all the recurring bills people get for the crapwear. The VZW navigator alone can reap over $100/year/user. CityID is another $2/month. Music, ringtones, apps, that is a LOT of lost revenue on the Nexus.

As to the delay, my guess is that the Verizon team is also sitting on a stockpile of R's. They must pre-order their inventory and it wouldnt surprise me in the least if weak sales of the R's is the real delay. This certainly would jive with Han's sisters info. If I were a betting man, i would say that they are holding off until after BF to see where there numbers stand and will then announce. After all, they MUST get this phone out before the holiday season. December 8th or the 15th seems reasonable to achieve what VZW needs to do here.

Thanks for listening!
 
I've been hearing rumors that have scared the crap outta me on my Rent-a-Rezound plan I'm currently on.

Been hearing from people that you can only return your phone before 14 days after activating. Got my Rez on 11/16 so the new rumor of 12/8 made my heart sink...

So, to clear things up I talked with a CSR online this morning (and kept the email transcript just in case)


Chat Transcript

info: Please hold for a Verizon Wireless sales representative to assist you with your order. Thank you for your patience.
info: You are now chatting with 'Tracy'
Tracy: Hello. Thank you for visiting our chat service. May I help you with your order today?
Carl: Hello
Carl: I am pretty much set on getting a Galaxy Nexus when it comes out. My question has to do with your return policy.
Tracy: I will be happy to assist you.
Carl: I was in a chat about a week ago with a CSR and she said that I could purchase a phone now, with the current return policy, and exchange it for the Galaxy Nexus (IF it comes out before Jan 15)
Carl: But I have heard rumors online that state you only get until January 15 if you do not activate your phone.
Carl: And I just wanted to get a straight answer right from Verizon.
Tracy: You can have activated your phone, so that will not be an issue.
Carl: Okay. So, say I bought a RAZR on 11-16-11 and ACTIVATED it, I can still return it for the Galaxy Nexus (IF it is released) by January 15.
Tracy: *you can activate your phone. Sorry about the bad grammar earlier!
Carl: No problem :)\
Tracy: Yes, that is correct.
Carl: Okay, that is good good news.

That's the same thing I have been telling people since it started but every day some claims it to not be true and they only have 14 days...
 
Greetings everyone,

I have been a loooong time lurker here (since the beginning) and had a thought this morning to share. This may have been mentioned earlier in the thread or on another thread, so sorry if its repetitive. My thought is regarding Google releasing the source code for ICS when they did. I was thinking: could this be a shot at Verizon? It is curious to me that they release the code before the first ICS phone is released. Did they do this with the other Nexus phones? Not sure. But, releasing it when they did, knowing the communities appetite for quickly getting dev work out on their platform, it is not inconceivable that they wanted to leapfrog the Nexus as the first ICS phone. And, do it just as a big F U to Verizon for their shenanigans. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if we see a port of ICS for the GS2 or other competing carriers phones prior to the Nexus release.

Another point: I have no doubt that a pure Google experience, and the converse, a phone free of bloat is a hotly contested issue among the Verizon muckity mucks. Think about this: lets assume the average smartphone user spends $20 per year on Verizon bloat (my guess is it is a LOT more than that). Take the fact that Samsung has sold over 3 million GS2's since launch. That is a LOT of money made on bloat since they ALL have bloat. The Droid INC easily sold over a million units. I realize that I guessed on the $20/user, but think about all the recurring bills people get for the crapwear. The VZW navigator alone can reap over $100/year/user. CityID is another $2/month. Music, ringtones, apps, that is a LOT of lost revenue on the Nexus.

As to the delay, my guess is that the Verizon team is also sitting on a stockpile of R's. They must pre-order their inventory and it wouldnt surprise me in the least if weak sales of the R's is the real delay. This certainly would jive with Han's sisters info. If I were a betting man, i would say that they are holding off until after BF to see where there numbers stand and will then announce. After all, they MUST get this phone out before the holiday season. December 8th or the 15th seems reasonable to achieve what VZW needs to do here.

Thanks for listening!

Welcome to the show! :)
 
Greetings everyone,

I have been a loooong time lurker here (since the beginning) and had a thought this morning to share. This may have been mentioned earlier in the thread or on another thread, so sorry if its repetitive. My thought is regarding Google releasing the source code for ICS when they did. I was thinking: could this be a shot at Verizon? It is curious to me that they release the code before the first ICS phone is released. Did they do this with the other Nexus phones? Not sure. But, releasing it when they did, knowing the communities appetite for quickly getting dev work out on their platform, it is not inconceivable that they wanted to leapfrog the Nexus as the first ICS phone. And, do it just as a big F U to Verizon for their shenanigans. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if we see a port of ICS for the GS2 or other competing carriers phones prior to the Nexus release.

It's already done on the GSII
 
Can't give you a solid answer, but I use ~2-3 GB a month. Had a Bionic for 14 days (the all too common data drops were too annoying) and I used almost 2GB during that time so I did see a small increase in usage, but that was most likely bumped due to it being new and I was on it more than normal. Get the DD if you can I'd say

How do you use your phone (or plan to)?

for a lot of web access, but nothing more then that, may use netflixs here and there, but rarely not on wifi
 
It's official, Samsung USA wants the Galaxy Nexus in the United States too!

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Just to add a bit of mindless speculation, does this mean that Samsung is ready for the phone and Verizon are the people who are dragging their feet? :p

If you want to contribute to the +1's here is a link to it.
 
Whats with all the talk about renting phones and the return policy?:confused:

Is it supposed to be cool these days to rip Verizon off by depreciating one of their devices just because you want a new phone right now while you wait for the GN?:confused:

I seem to understand this forum does not condone discussion of tethering via hacking ware. Is this not some kind of Mal method or procedure?

Most of us just don't care honestly and taking advantage of their return policies isn't a crime. It's Verizon - they take advantage of us too - it's business. Their CEO rakes in over $20 million a year and their rates are up the wazoo. I think they're okay.

Already this year they slashed our 1 year contracts, 1 year renewals, NE2s, unlimited data, and the list goes on.. so why would we feel bad for them?

IMO there is nothing ethically wrong with rent-a-phone from Verizon. You want to test a phone that you will be paying $300 up front and $75+ bucks a month for? All the power to you.

I don't think Verizon deserves to be immune to returns/exchanges no matter what the reason for the purchase and exchange (unless it broke and you're trying to commit fraud).

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The tethering assumption is incorrect. We've been talking about tethering and the rooted tethering apps in here for years and I haven't seen a tether thread censored. There are tons of threads on tethering and the rooted apps that allow it.

Tethering and the apps that allow it are an open discussion in all Android forums that I've frequented.
 
Greetings everyone,

I have been a loooong time lurker here (since the beginning) and had a thought this morning to share. This may have been mentioned earlier in the thread or on another thread, so sorry if its repetitive. My thought is regarding Google releasing the source code for ICS when they did. I was thinking: could this be a shot at Verizon? It is curious to me that they release the code before the first ICS phone is released. Did they do this with the other Nexus phones? Not sure. But, releasing it when they did, knowing the communities appetite for quickly getting dev work out on their platform, it is not inconceivable that they wanted to leapfrog the Nexus as the first ICS phone. And, do it just as a big F U to Verizon for their shenanigans. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if we see a port of ICS for the GS2 or other competing carriers phones prior to the Nexus release.

Another point: I have no doubt that a pure Google experience, and the converse, a phone free of bloat is a hotly contested issue among the Verizon muckity mucks. Think about this: lets assume the average smartphone user spends $20 per year on Verizon bloat (my guess is it is a LOT more than that). Take the fact that Samsung has sold over 3 million GS2's since launch. That is a LOT of money made on bloat since they ALL have bloat. The Droid INC easily sold over a million units. I realize that I guessed on the $20/user, but think about all the recurring bills people get for the crapwear. The VZW navigator alone can reap over $100/year/user. CityID is another $2/month. Music, ringtones, apps, that is a LOT of lost revenue on the Nexus.

As to the delay, my guess is that the Verizon team is also sitting on a stockpile of R's. They must pre-order their inventory and it wouldnt surprise me in the least if weak sales of the R's is the real delay. This certainly would jive with Han's sisters info. If I were a betting man, i would say that they are holding off until after BF to see where there numbers stand and will then announce. After all, they MUST get this phone out before the holiday season. December 8th or the 15th seems reasonable to achieve what VZW needs to do here.

Thanks for listening!

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and welcome out of lurkdom. Nice opinion I like it.
 
I have finally achieved some measure of inner peace re: the GNex. I was ->| |<- that close to buying the Rezound to try it, but I'm not going to. I reflected back on my history of Android phones, all but one of which have been official dev phones (ADP1, N1). They are always the best supported by modders, the CM team is getting GNexes, and I want to support open hardware. I'll just wait, double data or no. I'll keep lurking but I'm going to stop obsessing over every last bit of info. If it turns out Verizon has somehow locked the bootloader on the GNex, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. If I didn't have to switch to verizon I'd already have ordered an imported pentaband gsm GNex, probably.
 
Checking in on the Nexus News, I can't believe how big of a deal the mainstream folks are making of Woz getting a GNex. Is it really that big of a deal? Do you think this news will persuade some of the iSheep to check out the GNex?
 
Greetings everyone,

I have been a loooong time lurker here (since the beginning) and had a thought this morning to share. This may have been mentioned earlier in the thread or on another thread, so sorry if its repetitive. My thought is regarding Google releasing the source code for ICS when they did. I was thinking: could this be a shot at Verizon? It is curious to me that they release the code before the first ICS phone is released. Did they do this with the other Nexus phones? Not sure. But, releasing it when they did, knowing the communities appetite for quickly getting dev work out on their platform, it is not inconceivable that they wanted to leapfrog the Nexus as the first ICS phone. And, do it just as a big F U to Verizon for their shenanigans. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if we see a port of ICS for the GS2 or other competing carriers phones prior to the Nexus release.

Another point: I have no doubt that a pure Google experience, and the converse, a phone free of bloat is a hotly contested issue among the Verizon muckity mucks. Think about this: lets assume the average smartphone user spends $20 per year on Verizon bloat (my guess is it is a LOT more than that). Take the fact that Samsung has sold over 3 million GS2's since launch. That is a LOT of money made on bloat since they ALL have bloat. The Droid INC easily sold over a million units. I realize that I guessed on the $20/user, but think about all the recurring bills people get for the crapwear. The VZW navigator alone can reap over $100/year/user. CityID is another $2/month. Music, ringtones, apps, that is a LOT of lost revenue on the Nexus.

As to the delay, my guess is that the Verizon team is also sitting on a stockpile of R's. They must pre-order their inventory and it wouldnt surprise me in the least if weak sales of the R's is the real delay. This certainly would jive with Han's sisters info. If I were a betting man, i would say that they are holding off until after BF to see where there numbers stand and will then announce. After all, they MUST get this phone out before the holiday season. December 8th or the 15th seems reasonable to achieve what VZW needs to do here.

Thanks for listening!


Welcome out of lurking. That is a very well thought out theory about the source code releasing. Glad you're along for the ride.
 
It's possible, but I'm still inclined to believe that VZW is holding the GNex back to keep the Razr and Rezound's sales from getting slaughtered.

I'm inclined to believe this as well. If the RAZR had sold like hotcakes from day 1, if 11/11/11 at 11:11am would have seen packed stores, the GNex would've been out by now.

I think that the VZ bean counters have been steadily looking at the sales, and they probably have a trigger set in place, something like "GNex releases once 2 million RAZRs are sold, or on December 8, whichever comes first."

It's not impossible to imagine. Especially with the Love Tunnel saying that some were pushing really hard for this week.
 
Checking in on the Nexus News, I can't believe how big of a deal the mainstream folks are making of Woz getting a GNex. Is it really that big of a deal? Do you think this news will persuade some of the iSheep to check out the GNex?

I think some have been checking it out since the announcement
 
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