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***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

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open1your1eyes said:
I am not going to state sources due to the recent credibility questions and such from everyone and I'm not allowed to state who they are either but I can gaurentee everyone will see this phone for sale before December 13th. It will be LTE, 32GB model, 1850Mah battery, coming with OS version 4.0.2. The most critical bugs have already been fixed and price will be $299 on contract and a little over $600 off contract. Verizon will make the annoucement the day of the sale and there will not as much marketing with this phone as with the Droid RAZR and HTC Rezound.

I cannot state anymore than this so everyone please take this as you will. I hope this information proves useful to some of you.
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Welcome to the forums, and we hope your information is correct.
 
open1your1eyes said:
I am not going to state sources due to the recent credibility questions and such from everyone and I'm not allowed to state who they are either but I can gaurentee everyone will see this phone for sale before December 13th. It will be LTE, 32GB model, 1850Mah battery, coming with OS version 4.0.2. The most critical bugs have already been fixed and price will be $299 on contract and a little over $600 off contract. Verizon will make the annoucement the day of the sale and there will not as much marketing with this phone as with the Droid RAZR and HTC Rezound.

I cannot state anymore than this so everyone please take this as you will. I hope this information proves useful to some of you.
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I would say your source is twitter, and the internet. But if not, it confirmed what was said on twitter, and the internet.
 
RichSz said:
I'm curious about what gives people the impression the RAZR isn't selling well. I've seen that repeated relatively often (so I'm not picking on the two folks quoted above) but never saw a source. Can someone explain how they know the RAZR isn't selling?
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How dare you ask for credible proof. This is the internet, dang gum it!!! :D
 
RichSz said:
I'm curious about what gives people the impression the RAZR isn't selling well. I've seen that repeated relatively often (so I'm not picking on the two folks quoted above) but never saw a source. Can someone explain how they know the RAZR isn't selling?
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Short and sweet: they don't. There might be some anecdotal examples from folks who work at VZW, or authorized re-sellers, but no one knows how the RAZR is doing nationally, because VZW hasn't released that information.
 
Needz_Android said:
don't you have to unlock the boot loader to root?
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Well...

Rooting is typically done by exploiting a security hole in the OS.

If you unlock the bootloader, you can introduce your own "security hole" and obtain root that way, or write an entire new system image with root baked in.

However, root is available for a whole lot of devices via one-click methods, which universally don't require an unlocked bootloader. One-click root methods are rooting methods that have discovered a vulnerability in the OS and use that to elevate privileges and obtain root access.

So - no, you don't have to unlock the bootloader to obtain root necessarily. WITHOUT an unlocked bootloader, though, someone has to discover a vulnerability in the OS in order to root.
 
binary visions said:
Well...

Rooting is typically done by exploiting a security hole in the OS.

If you unlock the bootloader, you can introduce your own "security hole" and obtain root that way.

However, root is available for a whole lot of devices via one-click methods, which universally don't require an unlocked bootloader. One-click root methods are rooting methods that have discovered a vulnerability in the OS and use that to elevate privileges and obtain root access.

So - no, you don't have to unlock the bootloader to obtain root necessarily. WITHOUT an unlocked bootloader, though, someone has to discover a vulnerability in the OS in order to root.
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Yeah, rooting is far easier if you have an unlocked bootloader.
 
Steven58 said:
No new info. The vzw support guy left a cryptic message on Twitter that some of us took to be a sign. We were wrong. I felt toyed with.
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Yeah I saw your tweet earlier. I hadn't seen where they had say we will see the info there first earlier, so I didn't take their tweet that way last night. I am actually not too upset with Verizon today, connectivity issues are one of my most sensitive issues... If that was the cause of the delay, I am somewhat ok with that.
 
nj02vette said:
Currently, My Verizon doesn't need a rooted device to be removed. That may be changed in the GNex. My Verizon also doesn't consume any backup resources, so I'm not sure peoples aversion to it. However, I have heard that Verizon is doing some pretty signifigant updates to it, so it does a lot more than just telling you your account status, so maybe it will end up a resource hog. But right now, it's just a tiny app that only runs when you use it (and I admit, I do find it useful).

Backup Assistant would require root to remove. However, I will say I mysteriously had a contact deleted from my phone. Since by the time I noticed it was gone, the phone had synced, it also removed the contact from GMail, and Backup Assistant. I wasn't able to recover the contact through GMail, but I was through Backup Assistant. I have no problem with keeping that program.
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Did you know that gmail will let you recover your contacts up to 30 days now? Just in case. I found it useful twice when I got a little sideways and deleted someone, then realized I needed the number so I would know which one to ignore.

Steven58 said:
Beginning to think
Really miffed at Verizon
Keep your dang nexus
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Blasphemy!!
I thanked it for the effort of a haiku though. :D


open1your1eyes said:
I am not going to state sources due to the recent credibility questions and such from everyone and I'm not allowed to state who they are either but I can gaurentee everyone will see this phone for sale before December 13th. It will be LTE, 32GB model, 1850Mah battery, coming with OS version 4.0.2. The most critical bugs have already been fixed and price will be $299 on contract and a little over $600 off contract. Verizon will make the annoucement the day of the sale and there will not as much marketing with this phone as with the Droid RAZR and HTC Rezound.

I cannot state anymore than this so everyone please take this as you will. I hope this information proves useful to some of you.
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Welcome to the madhouse!
I surely hope this is right.
 
nj02vette said:
Currently, My Verizon doesn't need a rooted device to be removed. That may be changed in the GNex. My Verizon also doesn't consume any backup resources, so I'm not sure peoples aversion to it. However, I have heard that Verizon is doing some pretty signifigant updates to it, so it does a lot more than just telling you your account status, so maybe it will end up a resource hog. But right now, it's just a tiny app that only runs when you use it (and I admit, I do find it useful).

Backup Assistant would require root to remove. However, I will say I mysteriously had a contact deleted from my phone. Since by the time I noticed it was gone, the phone had synced, it also removed the contact from GMail, and Backup Assistant. I wasn't able to recover the contact through GMail, but I was through Backup Assistant. I have no problem with keeping that program.
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Thank you. Yes, I understand that it doesn't take any resources if you don't use it. But it's not about that for me. With my Droid X there is sooooo much Verizon Crap loaded onto it that I can't remove unless I Root (Amazon Kindle, Amazon MP3, VZW Apps, Amazon Appstore, Backup Assistant, Blockbuster, City ID, Madden NFL 11, My Verizon, NFS Shift, Skype Mobile, VZ Navigator). It just pisses me off. It's more about principle to me now. It's fine if they load things on there, but let me delete them if I don't want/use them. I have Never ever used even one of their preloaded apps.

/rant
 
binary visions said:
Well...

Rooting is typically done by exploiting a security hole in the OS.

If you unlock the bootloader, you can introduce your own "security hole" and obtain root that way, or write an entire new system image with root baked in.

However, root is available for a whole lot of devices via one-click methods, which universally don't require an unlocked bootloader. One-click root methods are rooting methods that have discovered a vulnerability in the OS and use that to elevate privileges and obtain root access.

So - no, you don't have to unlock the bootloader to obtain root necessarily. WITHOUT an unlocked bootloader, though, someone has to discover a vulnerability in the OS in order to root.
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And this is why I love you guys/girls. Thanks for the clarification
 
ASC said:
Thank you. Yes, I understand that it doesn't take any resources if you don't use it. But it's not about that for me. With my Droid X there is sooooo much Verizon Crap loaded onto it that I can't remove unless I Root (Amazon Kindle, Amazon MP3, VZW Apps, Amazon Appstore, Backup Assistant, Blockbuster, City ID, Madden NFL 11, My Verizon, NFS Shift, Skype Mobile, VZ Navigator). It just pisses me off. It's more about principle to me now. It's fine if they load things on there, but let me delete them if I don't want/use them. I have Never ever used even one of their preloaded apps.

/rant
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Wow that's a lot of bloat.
 
BabyBlues said:
Did you know that gmail will let you recover your contacts up to 30 days now? Just in case. I found it useful twice when I got a little sideways and deleted someone, then realized I needed the number so I would know which one to ignore.
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Don't ignore my number!

Seriously though, good info. Didn't know that.
 
nj02vette said:
Nope. You only need to unlock the bootloader if you are going to install things such as kernel updates, or ROMS that are based off of a completely different bootloder.

Most Verizon moto phones have locked encrypted bootloaders, yet we still have root on them.
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so if i don't plan on flashing any custom roms on the GNex but just plan on rooting to tether, i don't have to worry about unlocking the boot loader?
 
Rooting and unlocked bootloader are two different things. Rooting allows for root (superuser access) to the filesystem, which is what (almost) all devices have. Unlocked bootloader allows for you to flash unsigned images (kernels, custom ROMs, etc) to the device with ease.

Root vs. Unlocked bootloader - xda-developers

open1your1eyes said:
I am not going to state sources due to the recent credibility questions and such from everyone and I'm not allowed to state who they are either but I can gaurentee everyone will see this phone for sale before December 13th. It will be LTE, 32GB model, 1850Mah battery, coming with OS version 4.0.2. The most critical bugs have already been fixed and price will be $299 on contract and a little over $600 off contract. Verizon will make the annoucement the day of the sale and there will not as much marketing with this phone as with the Droid RAZR and HTC Rezound.

I cannot state anymore than this so everyone please take this as you will. I hope this information proves useful to some of you.
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$299 on contract you say? So why the $199 BF ads circulating then?
 
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