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do you like aosp or sense?

  • aosp

    Votes: 23 28.8%
  • sense

    Votes: 39 48.8%
  • both

    Votes: 18 22.5%

  • Total voters
    80
Looking forward to it. I had to look long and hard to find anything like this. I'm new to rooting and would love to see which roms people like most rather than trial and error. I can't believe how many are out there!
 
Looking forward to it. I had to look long and hard to find anything like this. I'm new to rooting and would love to see which roms people like most rather than trial and error. I can't believe how many are out there!

You're right about that! There's no other android that has as much support as the OG Evo IMO.
 
It's actually post 8 on this thread. http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/284413-roms-kernels-download-page.html#post2329913

I'm not sure I really understand what he's saying.
A ROM includes a kernel, a kernel image and software?
If you flash a kernel that is just an image then it messes up the kernel image you have from the ROM? Is that what he's saying?
Why doesnt the kernel image match the kernel?

so let me start by saying that akazabam definitely knows what he is talking about. that guy is the resident guru around these parts though he has not been around much lately. and it is hard to take his post out of context like that. not sure what other post he was refering to. do you have a link to the thread his post is in.

actually what he says is true. his main thing was that if you flash a rom that has mods in it like a2sd and then you flash a stock kernel (the one release from htc) then it could break some mods like a2sd.

the rom and kernel you are talking about are fine. just flash the rom first and get it set up then go back to recovery and wipe dlavik cache and cache and flash the kernel.

really the best place to learn all of this is to read the http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all...ooting-dummies-guide-gingerbread-edition.html. there is sections on flashing roms and kernels.
 
The problem with all (or most) of the flashable stock kernels you'll find is that they are provided as a boot.img. Pretty much every custom ROM out there has a modified boot.img. Unless the ROM is stock or meant to be stock with very, very few changes, you should not flash a kernel packaged this way, or you will undo some changes. For example, if a custom ROM supports a2sd, even if it comes with the stock kernel, there are modifications done to the boot.img to support a2sd. If you flash a custom kernel, then flash a stock kernel that is just packaged in a boot.img, you'll break a2sd. That being said, if you happen to find any stock kernels out there, I highly recommend you not suggest people flash them unless they are on a completely stock ROM. I do remember myn providing a flashable version of HTC #17 in modular format (what you want; not packaged in a boot.img), but I can't seem to find it now. Anyway, you can tell pretty easily if a flashable zip is just a boot.img or not. Just open it. If there is just a zip file at the top level, and in that zip is a boot.img file, then it's going to flash a whole boot.img. If you open the flashable zip, and it has just a directory named kernel or something like that, and in that directory are other files, but no boot.img to be found, you should be fine.

All that being said, what users need to do is just flash their current ROM without wiping data to get the stock kernel (or whatever came with the ROM) back. That will undo all other mods, but it's the easiest way. Another option would be to take the boot.img out of the flashable zip of your current ROM, package it in a flashable zip, then just flash it. That would certainly do the trick, but it would be really impractical to make flashable zips for all ROMs and versions.

In any case, it's not impossible to make a flashable zip that has just the stock kernel, but someone with more knowledge than me would have to make it, and I haven't seen any others out there beyond HTC #17. Those that know how to do it always just suggest to reflash your current ROM, anyway.

It's actually post 8 on this thread. http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all-things-root/284413-roms-kernels-download-page.html#post2329913

I'm not sure I really understand what he's saying.
A ROM includes a kernel, a kernel image and software?
If you flash a kernel that is just an image then it messes up the kernel image you have from the ROM? Is that what he's saying?
Why doesnt the kernel image match the kernel?

ok so what akazabam is saying is that stock kernels that are flashable should only be flashed with a stock rom. and with any custom roms if you flash the stock kernel, it could break certain mods or scripts that is running with the rom. the example he is giving is for a2sd which moves your apps to the sd card. a stock kernel will not have support for that.

basically when you flash a custom kernel it will over write the previous kernel. the kernel image is the kernel. it is just packaged so that it could be flashed from recovery.
 
Does anyone have the link for the VR Superwipe? The one provided is dead. I know the new Amon RA Recovery has it and other things baked in but the recovery started messing up for me the other day so I'm back to 2.3. I don't have the Superwipe anymore :/
 
yep, thats where I got it from. And I 2nd the idea of cleanup up the list. I found many links that didnt work. Im trying to find a new ROM, and found many dead ends. Flashing MikG v3.11 right now.
 
I agree the list could use some cleanup, but this is a daunting task to try to tackle...and then retackle in a month when roms disappear and new ones appear. Between providing support and trying to keep up in recent developments things like this can fall behind. (Not to mention our OTHER guide duties :eek:)

If the links are dead, the rom is no more.

I would suggest going to the xda developer page for your device to look for actively developed roms. If the rom isn't on the first couple of pages it isn't in active development anymore and shouldn't really be used.


It's important to keep up to date with security fixes, and old roms just don't have those


As always, feel free to start a thread to ask what roms your peers recommend. Mikg is a great Rom and will not disappoint
 
I haven't been that good at keeping up with AF recently. I need to get back up here, lol

I'm definitely in the works of getting another phone, however. You guys might knock me for this but it most likely will be the Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch. Why? 1) I work for Sprint (now) and the LTE towers aren't going to be in my area for a long while (major cities/areas first - common sense) so I might as well utilize WIMAX which is in my area until I get another upgrade. Then I'm sure LTE will be in abundance all over the country even more so than WIMAX 2) According to a tech friend, the LTEvo and the S3 can't turn off their LTE radio without turning off the 3G because it's on the same toggle or it's in the same setting as 3G data (I'm not quite sure what the source said for this). That seems like a MAJOR battery drain right there. Letting an LTE radio sit constantly searching, not good. 3) It's not a bad phone. Comparing that phone to a couple of the new ones, it gets pretty great battery life. Anywho, I'm rambling.
 
I haven't been that good at keeping up with AF recently. I need to get back up here, lol

I'm definitely in the works of getting another phone, however. You guys might knock me for this but it most likely will be the Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch. Why? 1) I work for Sprint (now) and the LTE towers aren't going to be in my area for a long while (major cities/areas first - common sense) so I might as well utilize WIMAX which is in my area until I get another upgrade. Then I'm sure LTE will be in abundance all over the country even more so than WIMAX 2) According to a tech friend, the LTEvo and the S3 can't turn off their LTE radio without turning off the 3G because it's on the same toggle or it's in the same setting as 3G data (I'm not quite sure what the source said for this). That seems like a MAJOR battery drain right there. Letting an LTE radio sit constantly searching, not good. 3) It's not a bad phone. Comparing that phone to a couple of the new ones, it gets pretty great battery life. Anywho, I'm rambling.


Well, good to see you around here too! :)

I have the Eltevo and my 4G as well. Not likely to get LTE around here either for a while but no biggie for me.

congratulations on whatever phone you get, hope you get one you like and that has good dev support like the Eltevo does.

One thing, you CAN turn off LTE mode and leave CDMA on. It can be in either both or CDMA only.

I leave mine in both as I heard it may help with the 3g speed. Haven't noticed that it did particularly but I did notice that I could talk on the phone AND surf the net at the same time, just out on the street, not having to be on wifi. Don't know if LTE on had anything to do with it or not.

Also, I have not noticed ANY drain on the battery from leaving LTE on in a non LTE network area. Wimax does chew up the battery, I have noticed, in a wimax area or not, but LTE doesn't seem to have the same effect.

Battery life seems to be ok too!
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Well, good to see you around here too! :)

I have the Eltevo and my 4G as well. Not likely to get LTE around here either for a while but no biggie for me.

congratulations on whatever phone you get, hope you get one you like and that has good dev support like the Eltevo does.

One thing, you CAN turn off LTE mode and leave CDMA on. It can be in either both or CDMA only.

I leave mine in both as I heard it may help with the 3g speed. Haven't noticed that it did particularly but I did notice that I could talk on the phone AND surf the net at the same time, just out on the street, not having to be on wifi. Don't know if LTE on had anything to do with it or not.

Also, I have not noticed ANY drain on the battery from leaving LTE on in a non LTE network area. Wimax does chew up the battery, I have noticed, in a wimax area or not, but LTE doesn't seem to have the same effect.

Battery life seems to be ok too!
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Wow, thanks. It may have just been the S3 and not the LTEvo where you can't turn off the LTE. And to be able to talk and surf it's because of either LTE or WIFI is on. If neither are on and you can still surf and talk I have no clue how that's happening lol

I might hold out based on that info. The 3G data is getting an upgrade too so you might be experiencing better 3G because of it being provisioned in your area. I'm not sure. I just know it's going to be a while for my city and that's if I still live here by the time LTE is even up lol
 
I haven't been that good at keeping up with AF recently. I need to get back up here, lol

I'm definitely in the works of getting another phone, however. You guys might knock me for this but it most likely will be the Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch. Why? 1) I work for Sprint (now) and the LTE towers aren't going to be in my area for a long while (major cities/areas first - common sense) so I might as well utilize WIMAX which is in my area until I get another upgrade. Then I'm sure LTE will be in abundance all over the country even more so than WIMAX 2) According to a tech friend, the LTEvo and the S3 can't turn off their LTE radio without turning off the 3G because it's on the same toggle or it's in the same setting as 3G data (I'm not quite sure what the source said for this). That seems like a MAJOR battery drain right there. Letting an LTE radio sit constantly searching, not good. 3) It's not a bad phone. Comparing that phone to a couple of the new ones, it gets pretty great battery life. Anywho, I'm rambling.


The LTEVO (and I assume the S3) CAN shut off the LTE radio without losing 3G connectivity...but there's no reason to shut it off. The LTE radio has a negligible drain on the battery life. By the time you factor things in such as normal connection strength and all the other variables I'd say it makes no difference. These arent the Wimax 4G radios that are known for killing the battery. The phone sleeps at -3mAh with the LTE radios on.

Having no LTE in your area is a relevant point. I have never had 4g Wimax coverage so that doesn't really matter to me. When I move to Minneapolis I'll have it in october/november. I buy my phones with hardware specs being the number 1 thing in mind.

Edit: looks like dustwin posted this up too.


You can talk and surf at the same time on 3G with the LTEVO.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...supports-simultaneous-voice-and-data-over-3g/
 
The LTEVO (and I assume the S3) CAN shut off the LTE radio without losing 3G connectivity...but there's no reason to shut it off. The LTE radio has a negligible drain on the battery life. By the time you factor things in such as normal connection strength and all the other variables I'd say it makes no difference. These arent the Wimax 4G radios that are known for killing the battery. The phone sleeps at -3mAh with the LTE radios on.

Having no LTE in your area is a relevant point. I have never had 4g Wimax coverage so that doesn't really matter to me. When I move to Minneapolis I'll have it in october/november. I buy my phones with hardware specs being the number 1 thing in mind.

Edit: looks like dustwin posted this up too.


You can talk and surf at the same time on 3G with the LTEVO.
Sprint's HTC EVO 4G LTE Supports Simultaneous Voice And Data Over 3G

I looked it up today at work and the "source" told me wrong. Now I'm really torn because I was gonna go backwards to the S2 but I don't know *sigh* lol The LTEvo looks amazing and I've heard great reviews from non-rooting users. I'm sure the developer community is going to be great just like it is on the OG EVO. I keep seeing slightly less battery life compared to the S2 and S3 and knowing me (moderate to heavy user) I need all the juice I can get. If I had Verizon hands down I would get the Razr Maxx.
 
well the first few days you have your phone you are going to wear it out messing with it anyway. like when you flash a new rom, you can't tell anything about the battery.

Then you will want to root and get it s-off, can be really simple or a bit of a pain, depending on drivers loading and such. Then, the new Evo, has a boatload of people developing stuff for it, so that will keep you busy...

Eventually you get a little more stable in your usage, and the battery lasts great, depending on the rom and usage, of course.

i have started messing with Tasker, and Mike at xda has put out a new version of the Mean rom seems like every day, and they are great stuff too.

phone is too thin for me without my Otterbox. makes it all good though, don't have to worry about dropping it, easier to hold and operate too.
 
well the first few days you have your phone you are going to wear it out messing with it anyway. like when you flash a new rom, you can't tell anything about the battery.

Then you will want to root and get it s-off, can be really simple or a bit of a pain, depending on drivers loading and such. Then, the new Evo, has a boatload of people developing stuff for it, so that will keep you busy...

Eventually you get a little more stable in your usage, and the battery lasts great, depending on the rom and usage, of course.

i have started messing with Tasker, and Mike at xda has put out a new version of the Mean rom seems like every day, and they are great stuff too.

phone is too thin for me without my Otterbox. makes it all good though, don't have to worry about dropping it, easier to hold and operate too.


That pretty much describes my OG Evo experience. I'm a religious Otterbox user too. As soon as any little thing happened I got a brand new one from the company. I needed optimal protection from my Defender Series case, lol
 
The LTE is SUPER thin. I like having the defender on because it adds some bulk that I'm used to from the OG EVO
 
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