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Are you a Mac or PC?
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Try it again with Linux Mint, you might be pleasantly surprised. I've found it takes so much less time to install Mint, as pretty much everything is included and it all works straight away.
If I have to install Windows, I still have to go around finding, downloading(which may take a long time due to location) and installing the productivity software which may be needed, and any relevant drivers which may be needed as well. All of which takes time.
Do you have 12-15 minutes? That's how long, on average, it takes me to wipe windows off a new computer and install Kubuntu Linux, complete with hundreds of applications ready to go. It doesn't get much easier than that!
Fyrefly
Newbie
First my rant: Mac, Windows and Linux machines are ALL Personal Computers (PCs) - sorry, that's a pet peeve of mine.
Now that I've got that out of my system...
I use windows. I currently have a desktop and notebook (Vista Basic and 7) and have never had a problem with either. I have never owned an Apple computer and am therefore not qualified to give an opinion on their performance and reliability; Macintosh is typically out of my price range.
When I built my last desktop, I really wanted to try Ubuntu or some of the other Linux builds, but there are a couple of Windows based programs I can't live without and I am waaaaay too lazy to dual boot.
Until recently I was an iOS user and after being repeatedly let down by Steve Jobs' dream machine, I have made the switch to Android and couldn't be happier.
Now that I've got that out of my system...
I use windows. I currently have a desktop and notebook (Vista Basic and 7) and have never had a problem with either. I have never owned an Apple computer and am therefore not qualified to give an opinion on their performance and reliability; Macintosh is typically out of my price range.
When I built my last desktop, I really wanted to try Ubuntu or some of the other Linux builds, but there are a couple of Windows based programs I can't live without and I am waaaaay too lazy to dual boot.
Until recently I was an iOS user and after being repeatedly let down by Steve Jobs' dream machine, I have made the switch to Android and couldn't be happier.
dots
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Anjunabeats
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I'm Mac, Windows...........& Linux! 
charlie101
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i have a macbook pro, plus windows 7 (i7) desktop
prior to 7 i had used xp, but i have to say 7 is very (surprisingly!) good (it is a self built pc - so bucks to bang no comparison - seriously i would have had to spent thousands to get anything like the same system - plus I can dual boot if i want - with linux)
that said, i love my mbp - it is, daily, impressive (to my mind at least) what apple can do with a given spec - so much just runs smoother...
(ps decided against smileys as, unusually, in this post it would have look kinda self-satisfied/smug - but if i had i would have been :thoughtful: )
prior to 7 i had used xp, but i have to say 7 is very (surprisingly!) good (it is a self built pc - so bucks to bang no comparison - seriously i would have had to spent thousands to get anything like the same system - plus I can dual boot if i want - with linux)
that said, i love my mbp - it is, daily, impressive (to my mind at least) what apple can do with a given spec - so much just runs smoother...
(ps decided against smileys as, unusually, in this post it would have look kinda self-satisfied/smug - but if i had i would have been :thoughtful: )
charlie101
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Sorry to edit
But, the premium on mac (whichever) is harsh (no denying) particularly if you go self build -> built
I know how you feel about dual boot - I have never booted into windows on my mac, despite having set it up...
Qudos on switching to android
I posted very early in this thread, when linux hadn't even entered the equation (I believe), so I figure I'll repost and add in my linux setups.
I currently run an i5 750 @ 3.8GHz, 4GB 1600MHz DDR3, and a Radeon 5770. My main purpose is gaming (mostly MMOs). I dual boot Windows 7 SP1 and Xubuntu. I much prefer Xfce to KDE or Gnome. I would probably use linux as my primary OS, but AMD has horrific OpenGL driver support, which lowers my gaming framerate by about half compared to Windows. Also, my current game of choice (World of Warcraft) just added DirectX 11 runtimes, which allow access to graphics that aren't available in the game's OpenGL engine.
I also have a personal webserver running Debian Squeeze with all traces of X11 removed. The system doesn't have a monitor, keyboard, or mouse attached to it. I do everything via SSH. So, I figured why have the extra crap running.
To quote my original statement regarding Apple: "I don't dislike Apple products as much as I dislike Steve Jobs himself. Most of the products are pretty good, but Jobs' (and, in turn, the company's) 'better than you' attitude just rubs me the wrong way."
To expand on that, I believe many of the products are very good. They also have a few things that I view as flaws, such as the inability to remove the battery from many of their products. Also, as I build my own systems, the premium I would pay for a similarly powered Mac vs non-Mac would be fairly large. I can't say I'm anti-Apple to the point of spouting garbage about Macs being for "noobs" or people "too dumb to own a computer". I'm just not willing to be one of their consumers.
That said, I wish Jobs well and hope he has a speedy recovery, assuming that his current Leave of Absence is due to his pancreatic cancer. I'm not sure if he ever came out and said for certain.
I currently run an i5 750 @ 3.8GHz, 4GB 1600MHz DDR3, and a Radeon 5770. My main purpose is gaming (mostly MMOs). I dual boot Windows 7 SP1 and Xubuntu. I much prefer Xfce to KDE or Gnome. I would probably use linux as my primary OS, but AMD has horrific OpenGL driver support, which lowers my gaming framerate by about half compared to Windows. Also, my current game of choice (World of Warcraft) just added DirectX 11 runtimes, which allow access to graphics that aren't available in the game's OpenGL engine.
I also have a personal webserver running Debian Squeeze with all traces of X11 removed. The system doesn't have a monitor, keyboard, or mouse attached to it. I do everything via SSH. So, I figured why have the extra crap running.
To quote my original statement regarding Apple: "I don't dislike Apple products as much as I dislike Steve Jobs himself. Most of the products are pretty good, but Jobs' (and, in turn, the company's) 'better than you' attitude just rubs me the wrong way."
To expand on that, I believe many of the products are very good. They also have a few things that I view as flaws, such as the inability to remove the battery from many of their products. Also, as I build my own systems, the premium I would pay for a similarly powered Mac vs non-Mac would be fairly large. I can't say I'm anti-Apple to the point of spouting garbage about Macs being for "noobs" or people "too dumb to own a computer". I'm just not willing to be one of their consumers.
That said, I wish Jobs well and hope he has a speedy recovery, assuming that his current Leave of Absence is due to his pancreatic cancer. I'm not sure if he ever came out and said for certain.
CaptainTwinkie
Member
I am a PC, I work with about 700 Macs, and as I have gotten better with working with them. I still prefer PCs over Macs, mainly because of price, and I am a AMD fanboy.
I have loaded OS X on my PC before, fun little project when you get it working, but the thing that I hate so much about OSX, which is also one of things that OSX has a major advantage, is how strict Apple is with the hardware. Which is why Apple can always say, "It just works". But when you are using anything they don't want you to use, well tough luck. I like my freedom when it comes to my hardware, I like to use whatever I want in my machines.
And as far as Linux goes, I enjoy using it, it test it out all the time in virtual machines, same with OS X installs, breaking and fixing windows, etc.
I have loaded OS X on my PC before, fun little project when you get it working, but the thing that I hate so much about OSX, which is also one of things that OSX has a major advantage, is how strict Apple is with the hardware. Which is why Apple can always say, "It just works". But when you are using anything they don't want you to use, well tough luck. I like my freedom when it comes to my hardware, I like to use whatever I want in my machines.
And as far as Linux goes, I enjoy using it, it test it out all the time in virtual machines, same with OS X installs, breaking and fixing windows, etc.
phantomatech
Newbie
if macs were a little cheaper, i would get one. of course, i would need to learn how to use it!
but i also like PC. the reason is because there are many to choose from. if one doesn't suit your taste, you can look for another.
so i guess both.
RainyDayWoman
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I guess I'd be considered a PC since that's what I have, but I wouldnt exactly say I favor either one. I think they both have their uses and ideally I'd like to have both. But for now, my work life requires a PC, so I stick with PC. If that changes, I'll happily change with it.
mrspeedmaster
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TheCompBoy
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PC here! Got Windows 7 in one and Linux in other.
I'm actually a fan of all 3.
I run a dualboot Win7/Ubuntu on my gaming rig. I've tried running my games in virtualization but couldn't get it right, so I keep the Win7 partition for just that. I prefer using Linux Mint for my everyday tasks as I just prefer it as an operating system. Linux is just so refreshing after so many years of running windows. Plus I have to keep myself familiar with windows because so many of my clients run it and need tech support in some form of another.
My bought my wife a new 27" iMac (her old one finally died after 5 years of service) because she is a professional photographer and prefers her Mac over her Windows 7 box. She never uses it anymore so I may just wind up selling it or making a NAS box out of it or something.
I have a couple of laptops running Edubuntu for the kids and they absolutely love them. If you were to ask my kids which Operating system they preferred, they will just look at you strangly and say "Linux, of course". They were always messing up their Windows XP machines.
This has been an interesting thread. I'm glad it was created.
I run a dualboot Win7/Ubuntu on my gaming rig. I've tried running my games in virtualization but couldn't get it right, so I keep the Win7 partition for just that. I prefer using Linux Mint for my everyday tasks as I just prefer it as an operating system. Linux is just so refreshing after so many years of running windows. Plus I have to keep myself familiar with windows because so many of my clients run it and need tech support in some form of another.
My bought my wife a new 27" iMac (her old one finally died after 5 years of service) because she is a professional photographer and prefers her Mac over her Windows 7 box. She never uses it anymore so I may just wind up selling it or making a NAS box out of it or something.
I have a couple of laptops running Edubuntu for the kids and they absolutely love them. If you were to ask my kids which Operating system they preferred, they will just look at you strangly and say "Linux, of course". They were always messing up their Windows XP machines.
This has been an interesting thread. I'm glad it was created.
I like Linux. I always advise ppl that never used OS X before, play around with Linux first for awhile. It will make the transition from Windows easier.
I think one of the biggest pros for Apple and biggest cons for most PC manufactures is Apple just puts together a very good machine. Back in the day I swore by Compaq, HP. Now? I would never get a PC from HP, Dell, eMachines, Gateway, etc for myself. I will have it custom built so I know exactly what power supply and mobo is in it.
I think thats one of the biggest reasons for ppl having problems with Windows PC's and reliability. I use XP now, and since going the custom built route the problems are almost non existent. Only issues I might have now have to do with browsers. My next PC will have Win 7, some Linux distro and maybe XP. I think its time for me to move on from XP. But, if it aint broke....
I tried to have a multi boot setup when Vista first came out and had a Vista beta, XP, and Linux. Either the Vista betas were too buggy or Acronis Disk Selector didnt play nice with the 3 OS's cuz my MBR got wiped out twice. I dont use Acronis for that right now and dont have Linux installed. Dont really know what the problem was but I got Vista 64bit and XP all cozy together. Yea I still use Vista and I had Win 7 since it launched. Decent hardware and updates to Vista and its not too bad.
I think one of the biggest pros for Apple and biggest cons for most PC manufactures is Apple just puts together a very good machine. Back in the day I swore by Compaq, HP. Now? I would never get a PC from HP, Dell, eMachines, Gateway, etc for myself. I will have it custom built so I know exactly what power supply and mobo is in it.
I think thats one of the biggest reasons for ppl having problems with Windows PC's and reliability. I use XP now, and since going the custom built route the problems are almost non existent. Only issues I might have now have to do with browsers. My next PC will have Win 7, some Linux distro and maybe XP. I think its time for me to move on from XP. But, if it aint broke....
I tried to have a multi boot setup when Vista first came out and had a Vista beta, XP, and Linux. Either the Vista betas were too buggy or Acronis Disk Selector didnt play nice with the 3 OS's cuz my MBR got wiped out twice. I dont use Acronis for that right now and dont have Linux installed. Dont really know what the problem was but I got Vista 64bit and XP all cozy together. Yea I still use Vista and I had Win 7 since it launched. Decent hardware and updates to Vista and its not too bad.