Roze
Hiding behind a mystery
You're OK, you don't make people who eat meat feel like they are worst than Hitler or that the best thing is for me to do is slit my wrist because I'm so evil.
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keatingschick
Well-Known Member
I was vegetarian for 12 months, but am not now. It was down to being an animal lover I chose to do it, but to be perfectly honest I've never been a big fan of meat anyway. Even now really the only meat I eat IF ANY is chicken.
I'd have probably stayed vegetarian and would be now if I was a better cook. I didn't eat any meat and I am not a fan of fish anyway so didn't eat right much for 12 months. I also stopped eating things that contained some animal products - so like I'd get vegetarian cheese etc.
The thing that made me stop being vegetarian was my boyfriend went to the KFC and got a bargain bucket!!!
This was a point I made when I was on the pre-reg for my job. I look after children and obviously if I had a child who was vegetarian/vegan/with dietary requirements regardless of my own personal feelings I would have to accomodate their needs (if I agreed to take them). There was a girl on the course who was vegan, and I asked would she cook for a child who was not vegan/vegetarian, but she said no. Now the thing is I think it has to cut both ways.......I could not discriminate against a child who had certain dietary needs/choices and so neither should she.
I'd have probably stayed vegetarian and would be now if I was a better cook. I didn't eat any meat and I am not a fan of fish anyway so didn't eat right much for 12 months. I also stopped eating things that contained some animal products - so like I'd get vegetarian cheese etc.
The thing that made me stop being vegetarian was my boyfriend went to the KFC and got a bargain bucket!!!
This was a point I made when I was on the pre-reg for my job. I look after children and obviously if I had a child who was vegetarian/vegan/with dietary requirements regardless of my own personal feelings I would have to accomodate their needs (if I agreed to take them). There was a girl on the course who was vegan, and I asked would she cook for a child who was not vegan/vegetarian, but she said no. Now the thing is I think it has to cut both ways.......I could not discriminate against a child who had certain dietary needs/choices and so neither should she.
Vihzel
Destroying Balls Everyday
If cooking meat was part of the job description, then she should. As I previously stated above, asking a vegetarian or vegan to cook meat is incredibly offensive. It would be like asking a Hindu to cook beef.
Roze
Hiding behind a mystery
An old online friend of mine who is the only Vegetarian in the family, cooks the family dinner and prepares the meat dishes.
When I asked her about it. She said that she was not eating it, so it was. OK.
On a side note, if you're a vegetarian, you should go to a Budist temple to try temple vegetraian dishes. I believe these are the dishes that modern vegetarians designed their dishes from. They taste REALLY yummy!!!
Most temples serve lunch for free after a service (it's good to make a donation though), lol.
SeekerOfTheWay
Android Enthusiast
Same here, I feel the same way. You eat what you want, I eat what I want. By no mean do you have the damn bloody right to gilt me into feeling bad for eating what I enjoy. I don't have the same view as you, please accept that. Don't push your views down my throat!!!
I don't care if they are Vegetairans, kudos for them for choosing that life style.
I agree...if eating animal is wrong because you're killing them. Should not eating plants be just as wrong? Are they not a living thing.
Funny little thing about my niece and nephew. Both polar opposites
My 3 year old niece is a Vegetarian in the making. She eats nothing but rice and vegetables and fruits. On the other hand, her older brother is a meat eater through and through. He HATES vegetables and rarely eats fruits. His diet is mostly rice and meat.
I am really sorry that you feel this way SeekerThis is simply a friendly conversation between members here.
The OP asks, is there anyone out there like me [a vegetarian]? It was my understanding they were looking to talk with other vegetarians about the lifestyle, not a debate.
I'm not interested in a debate, so I had my posts deleted. If the OP would like any vegetarian app recommendations, please Pm me. There are quite a few.
Or decline the job if she finds it that repulsive.
I'm not so sure I'm with you on this one. While it would be completely reasonable for a vegan/vegetarian to be offended if asked to cook meat, especially if the asker knew they were vegan/vegetarian, I think the better analogy would be to asking a Catholic to pray in a Synagogue. While it may be contrary to their belief system, it doesn't compromise it. To categorize it as universally offensive is unfair to the non-vegan.
I would agree that asking a vegan or vegetarian to EAT meat would be offensive.
so.. if posts ask.. how do you like the EVO... in an EVO forum.
but there are others that chime in.. about other phones they like better for xyz... because of XYZ...
what should we do?
depends on why they are choose not to eat meat...
if it was a religious thing... yeah.. it would be offensive.
would it be ok.. for me to say it is offensive for me to prepare vegan food?
Vihzel
Destroying Balls Everyday
Like you stated... it depends on the reasons why.
Sak01
Android Expert
No, because you're not an exclusive meat eater who feels that 'killing' plants for food is 'murder'?
The reverse is true of many vegetarians. Asking them to prepare* meat dishes is almost as offensive as asking them to eat it. In both cases, from their perspective, an animal was wrongly killed for the endeavour.
I don't even agree with vegetarianism but I would still respect their sensitivity with respect to meat.
*note that making it as part of one's job or when it's in the job description is a separate and muddier matter.
ninja_reject
Android Enthusiast
But we are not in a vegetarian forum. We are in The Lounge, where "We're all friends here. Hang out, kick your feet up and talk about whatever the heck you want!" I am from a country where free speech and freedom of expression is encouraged.
zuben el genub
Extreme Android User
Cooking is the problem with vegetarianism. They have no UNCOATED fake chicken wings,
stew meat, pork chops. I have seen meatballs, and the chicken strips are not bad but not quite usable for making your own hot wings in a crock pot.
I prefer the veggieburgers, and I like them nuked! I will make chili and some Italian dishes with the veggie Italian sausage and crumbles. I also like veggie breakfast sausage (spicy) and bacon.
Quite a few of the veggie stuff puts mushrooms in it. Can't eat that, I'm allergic to them.
Had a Vegan daughter. (Still have daughter - she moved)
Zuben
stew meat, pork chops. I have seen meatballs, and the chicken strips are not bad but not quite usable for making your own hot wings in a crock pot.
I prefer the veggieburgers, and I like them nuked! I will make chili and some Italian dishes with the veggie Italian sausage and crumbles. I also like veggie breakfast sausage (spicy) and bacon.
Quite a few of the veggie stuff puts mushrooms in it. Can't eat that, I'm allergic to them.
Had a Vegan daughter. (Still have daughter - she moved)
Zuben
BabyBlues
Trouble Just Finds Me!
Here is my problem with vegetarianism.....if you are so adverse to meat why do you want the flavors of chicken or bacon or sausage?
No one has been able to answer that one for me
And I'm asking honestly, not to be inflammatory.
Vihzel
Destroying Balls Everyday
For me, personally, I didn't think of them as meat substitutes. It does, for people who are becoming vegetarian, make the transition easier. Remember... not everyone becomes vegetarian for animal welfare reasons. There are religious, health, environmental, and some other reasons. One of my professors became a vegetarian due to health reasons and due to past family history with heart problems/attacks. Almost every female family member in her direct line died due to heart problems and most died because of a heart attack. Evidently, she's 79 now and has had no heart problems. She contributes it to her very healthy diet.
I don't exactly remember when I forgot the taste of meats but I always treated those items as simply a different kind of food. I never consumed them to try to replace the meat items they try to replace. It just doesn't work. There are some that are quite good and was impressed with while others tasted too unusual.
Side note: A lot of famous people are vegetarians or vegans (some examples of ones living today):
Alanis Morissette
Alec Baldwin
Anne Hathaway
Billy Idol
Brad Pitt
Carrie Underwood
Christian Bale
Ellen Degeneres
Kate Winslet
Kelly Clarkson
Lisa Simpson
Mike Tyson
Natalie Portman
Nelly
Pamela Anderson
Paul McCartney
P!nk
Samuel L. Jackson
Shania Twain
Travis Barker (of Blink 182)
BabyBlues
Trouble Just Finds Me!
That is truly the first answer that I've been given that makes sense. Thank you. I was always told 'because'
zuben el genub
Extreme Android User
Lots of times there is less cholesterol in soy products. Less fat, too. But I dislike the texture of unsquashed beans. I don't mind the taste, but I prefer pinto beans as frijoles nuked rather that plain beans. If you use a veggie burger, the beans are mashed. Soy is protein and the substitutes do give you a variety. If you happen to like hot barbecue sauce, you need something to put it on. Hot salsa will go on frijoles very nicely, but I don't think I'd want barbecue sauce on them.
I like fried peppers and onions. Using soy sausage cuts down on the grease since you can nuke the sausage first then add it to the peppers and onions which can be fried using Pam. There's not half the grease to deal with and it's just as tasty.
I like fried peppers and onions. Using soy sausage cuts down on the grease since you can nuke the sausage first then add it to the peppers and onions which can be fried using Pam. There's not half the grease to deal with and it's just as tasty.
Roze
Hiding behind a mystery
Studies have shown that too much soybean products not good for you though.
BabyBlues
Trouble Just Finds Me!
I'm not going to say that I dislike soy products. I do actually like some things made with soy. BUT I do always have the thought in the back of my head that I'm eating something that can also be used to make insulation, ink, bio-fuel and many other things. Just an observation.
Truth be told, studies have shown that too much of anything is not good for you.
Vihzel
Destroying Balls Everyday
Hence why we use the two obvious words.... "too much" hehe
And that is why I am working on a new app called the "too-much-o-meter"
it consists of one button and when you press it is says "if you have to ask, it's too much."
A.Nonymous
Extreme Android User
And that is why I am working on a new app called the "too-much-o-meter"
it consists of one button and when you press it is says "if you have to ask, it's too much."
That is totally going to put the kibosh on my gadget buying habits.
I was lacto-ovo for 7+ years until about 6 months ago when I started eating chicken once a week or so. I don't give a crap what anyone else eats, just wish there was more transparency about what's in our food, where it comes from, and how it ends up on our plates (this goes for veg foods, too!). Preaching to/from either side is pointless; it just makes everyone dig their heels in even more. <Note that's a general observation and not at all directed at anyone here.
keatingschick
Well-Known Member
Thing is we have a muslim childminder who gets a little niggled if we bring certain products (like alot of the children like the tiny party sausages), and makes quite a thing about how her children must not go near these sausages, and she will only bring/eat halal meat and yes I know Halal meat is prepared a certain way because of religious reasons BUT it is also considered by some that its not really the most humane way to slaughter animals and so some people may be "offended" by eating or dealing with halal meat.
Just a little point here, like Vihzel says about always making sure you have the stuff you need to eat, so the point we've made is that this childminder sometimes comes across that she feels that we must ALL bring halal meats and suitable products, now I'll be honest yes we do look and try and make sure but we also have to acknowledge the things that our own children will like to eat but like one week she made a bit of a stink about one item that we had no idea was not suitable for her or her children to eat, (and my friend was mortified as she looks after 2 children who have a muslim father and are brought up in the muslim faith and she had given them before but on speaking to the mother SHE didn't even know they werent suitable). But the thing is, if I looked after a child who had a certain dietary requirement - either vegetarian, allergies or religious reasons, I would make it my responsiblity to ensure that the I provided stuff for that child - it would be great if others made the effort LIKE WE DO, but I would not make them feel guilty or responsible if they didn't which is what she has done at times.
On the comment re cooking for vegetarians thats why I struggled, I went to see my doctor basically cos I wasnt eating very much and was generally feeling lousy and he wasnt supportive at all saying that I was proving that being vegetarian didn't do anyone any good...but it wasnt that its just that I wasnt a good enough cook to provide myself with a good enough diet.
I did use the Quorn chicken and mincemeat to make things, and I have to say I tried the Linda McCartney stuff which was very nice, but I wasnt able to give myself a varied enough diet and so it just wasnt working for me. But to be fair I dont really like meat so I dont eat alot of it anyway and mostly eat/cook chicken much to the annoyance of my husband and daughter who are real meat eaters!!