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Root [Boost Mobile] [ROM] n00b (B10 based) VIII.II FULL Install 1/23/2013

Smoothkaos said:
I've always switched back and forth between kernels without issue. I haven't put the AlienKernel with this rom though because MrBobo created it specifically against the strengths and weaknesses of the glitch kernel. I am interested in how AlienKernel works with this though! Please share results if you do. :D
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RCJosie posted some antutu benchmarks with it, also said he was happier with DTM'S kernel, and your right, Mr. Bobo created this rom with DTM'S kernel specifically.:D
 
Smoothkaos said:
I've always switched back and forth between kernels without issue. I haven't put the AlienKernel with this rom though because MrBobo created it specifically against the strengths and weaknesses of the glitch kernel. I am interested in how AlienKernel works with this though! Please share results if you do. :D
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Okay will do. So that only leaves me with 2 questions:
1) which kernel on the glitch page is the default one for noob? I don't see a 1.8 oc kernel there as indicated on the description portion of the first page of this thread. Is it the 1.8 oc one or is there a separate download somewhere else?

2) how do I sign my own zipped kernel after I compile it? I see titanium backup suggests a program called zip signer. Is that the standard / what other people are using?
 
dodo3773 said:
Okay will do. So that only leaves me with 2 questions:
1) which kernel on the glitch page is the default one for noob? I don't see a 1.8 oc kernel there as indicated on the description portion of the first page of this thread. Is it the 1.8 oc one or is there a separate download somewhere else?

2) how do I sign my own zipped kernel after I compile it? I see titanium backup suggests a program called zip signer. Is that the standard / what other people are using?
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I used one that downthemachine sent me, not sure what one on his thread, look a few posts down and he had some expiramental ones. Easiest way is to just extract the kernel from my ROM...

Alien runs fine with this ROM, I don't recommend flashing his zip though, just extract the kernel itself and only flash that, I already have init.d scripts in place as well as a custom build.prop, I believe he includes that stuff and it will either mess with or replace my mods.

You don't need to sign your zip unless you want to flash it through stock recovery, custom recovery doesn't require any signing.
 
MrBobo said:
I used one that downthemachine sent me, not sure what one on his thread, look a few posts down and he had some expiramental ones. Easiest way is to just extract the kernel from my ROM...

Alien runs fine with this ROM, I don't recommend flashing his zip though, just extract the kernel itself and only flash that, I already have init.d scripts in place as well as a custom build.prop, I believe he includes that stuff and it will either mess with or replace my mods.

You don't need to sign your zip unless you want to flash it through stock recovery, custom recovery doesn't require any signing.
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Okay so when you say just extract the image it's boot.img right? How do you switch kernels if it's not a zip file? Is there a simpler way?
 
kep1 said:
Downloaded via PC. Weird. Not sure where to go from here. I guess it doesn't matter how I flash it if I'm using the wrong rom lol. If you click on the original post's link and begin to download does it say you're downloading a 101mb file or 106mb?

Edit: One thing that's odd is now that I've flashed the B08c rom and then tried to flash the n00b rom a few times, the grey boot screen for the n00b rom still displays during stock boot before the stock green android alien guy displays.
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See post three for a flashable zip of the stock splash screen

Smoothkaos said:
MrBobo actually had a how-to for creating zips in a thread I saw once. I don't remember which one though. I imagine it's pretty easy and quick
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my noob rebloated zip in post three is a good template for that, just do a cwm backup, unzip the data partition backup from the clockworkmod backup folder and copy the data\app folder apps to the data\app folder in my zip. Now you can flash your own favorite bloatware through cwm (that's actually why I created that, for my own personal use)

dodo3773 said:
Okay so a quick update on my previous feature requests:

Volume issue - nevermind it. I have come to the conclusion that this was probably just me fooling myself into thinking it was at one time different. Plus there may be some dangers there.

Crt on off request - I am still interested in this very much. I tried to do it myself but wound up in a boot loop.

Pdroid patch - I have come to the conclusion based on the references in the patches that these are kernel source patches. So since glitch kernel I think is done being developed based on what I read in that forum thread I guess I need to ask the alien kernel dev and see what he thinks. Is there any chance noob will eventually move to alien kernel?
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I am not sure what you are looking for in the crt on off, both of those are included in the ROM already.
 
What does the kernel look like? I might try AlienKernel to see what happens but I've never pulled just a kernel before. It's the single most important thing for Linux and probably worth mentioning for educational purposes
 
I am not sure what you are looking for in the crt on off, both of those are included in the ROM already.
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I mean the ability to use the stock lock screen animation when pressing the power button. How do I toggle it? I tried some different build.prop variations and turning all animations off but the effect is still there.
 
dodo3773 said:
Okay so when you say just extract the image it's boot.img right? How do you switch kernels if it's not a zip file? Is there a simpler way?
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yes, boot image... you can also flash the boot through adb from a computer:

adb reboot bootloader
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot reboot

you can find the boot.img in the zip of the ROM as well as in the zip of the alien kernel from that thread
 
MrBobo said:
yes, boot image... you can also flash the boot through adb from a computer:

adb reboot bootloader
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot reboot

you can find the boot.img in the zip of the ROM as well as in the zip of the alien kernel from that thread
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Oh awesome. Will do ((if adb recognizes my phone in recovery mode (I can probably flash it while system is running too though maybe? )). If anyone else is interested I'll be happy to post the Pdroid patched kernel when I sort it out eventually.
 
MrBobo said:
I used one that downthemachine sent me, not sure what one on his thread, look a few posts down and he had some expiramental ones. Easiest way is to just extract the kernel from my ROM...

Alien runs fine with this ROM, I don't recommend flashing his zip though, just extract the kernel itself and only flash that, I already have init.d scripts in place as well as a custom build.prop, I believe he includes that stuff and it will either mess with or replace my mods.

You don't need to sign your zip unless you want to flash it through stock recovery, custom recovery doesn't require any signing.
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Yep Alien does run fine as Mr Bobo said but I got better performance and smoothness with DTM'S kernel as it was said before, it was designed for his rom.....;)
 
rcjosie said:
Yep Alien does run fine as Mr Bobo said but I got better performance and smoothness with DTM'S kernel as it was said before, it was designed for his rom.....;)
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How is the kernel designed specifically for this rom? Is it specially patched in some way for the firmware?
 
Smoothkaos said:
What does the kernel look like? I might try AlienKernel to see what happens but I've never pulled just a kernel before. It's the single most important thing for Linux and probably worth mentioning for educational purposes
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The kernel does not change how your system looks in any way really. The kernel is what contains the drivers that talk to your hardware and firmware. Stuff like how to act when a usb is plugged in etc.. that sort of stuff. It's lower level. Your operating system / theme sits on top of it. What it does affect is what governors you have available for scaling the cpu or what schedulers you have available for storage etc.. things driver related. Hope that helps.
 
Okay so I grabbed the git sources for glitch and alien and I cannot find what the pdroid patches are referencing at all. Guess they are rom patches. So, since I don't want to just end up in a boot loop (again) guess that's it. Not sure what else to do.
 
dodo3773 said:
The kernel does not change how your system looks in any way really. The kernel is what contains the drivers that talk to your hardware and firmware. Stuff like how to act when a usb is plugged in etc.. that sort of stuff. It's lower level. Your operating system / theme sits on top of it. What it does affect is what governors you have available for scaling the cpu or what schedulers you have available for storage etc.. things driver related. Hope that helps.
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Apologies for the confusion on what I was asking but nonetheless thank you for clarification! I know, it's the "brains" and in-between for the hardware and software, yes. I was just wondering what it looks like as far as file type when looking in the /system so I can extract. I don't want to extract what I "think" it is. I want to "know" due to the importance that doing it wrong had serious negative implications :D
 
dodo3773 said:
Okay so I grabbed the git sources for glitch and alien and I cannot find what the pdroid patches are referencing at all. Guess they are rom patches. So, since I don't want to just end up in a boot loop (again) guess that's it. Not sure what else to do.
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You're definitely better than me at conveying things. This is exactly what I want to avoid haha
 
I'm on day three and about 5 reboots later (installed some Mercury sound packs from cwm) and am stunned that I haven't had any falloff of performance of this ROM. In the past I have installed countless ROMs in beta for devs and tested countless kernels during Downthemachine's Glitch testing and after awhile my phone started doing weird things I couldn't explain. I've completely stripped back to a blank sdcard and stock on the phone too many times to count, hoping to get the gremlins out but never could. I would ALWAYS have problems that were unique to my phone only and it seemed like I was stuck in a negative precedent loop. It's taught me ALOT though. Now, I've installed n00bVIII.II and was thinking "Ok, it will be good for the first boot but will deteriorate soon like every time before". I want to give the ultimate complement and THANK YOU to MrBobo. You, sir, have officially chased the dumb from my dumbphone. I have had ZERO deterioration since initial install and even with 187 apps installed it behaves like it has NONE in snappiness. I play Angry Birds Space and AB Star Wars and they now load within 5 to 9 seconds. Before it would take over 30 or more. Every non-game app loads within a second or two. I didn't think this was possible. Battery life, wow! I've been messing around all morning on it and now, 5 hours later, I still @ 83% with my year old STOCK battery. AMAZING job MrBobo. You've known how many troubles I've had with my phone so I hope you fully understand my gratitude towards your genius.
 
Smoothkaos said:
I'm on day three and about 5 reboots later (installed some Mercury sound packs from cwm) and am stunned that I haven't had any falloff of performance of this ROM. In the past I have installed countless ROMs in beta for devs and tested countless kernels during Downthemachine's Glitch testing and after awhile my phone started doing weird things I couldn't explain. I've completely stripped back to a blank sdcard and stock on the phone too many times to count, hoping to get the gremlins out but never could. I would ALWAYS have problems that were unique to my phone only and it seemed like I was stuck in a negative precedent loop. It's taught me ALOT though. Now, I've installed n00bVIII.II and was thinking "Ok, it will be good for the first boot but will deteriorate soon like every time before". I want to give the ultimate complement and THANK YOU to MrBobo. You, sir, have officially chased the dumb from my dumbphone. I have had ZERO deterioration since initial install and even with 187 apps installed it behaves like it has NONE in snappiness. I play Angry Birds Space and AB Star Wars and they now load within 5 to 9 seconds. Before it would take over 30 or more. Every non-game app loads within a second or two. I didn't think this was possible. Battery life, wow! I've been messing around all morning on it and now, 5 hours later, I still @ 83% with my year old STOCK battery. AMAZING job MrBobo. You've known how many troubles I've had with my phone so I hope you fully understand my gratitude towards your genius.
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Now you see why some of us would always come back in the early stages of his rom.

Its (in my opition) the best rom out there and we all thank Mr Bobo for his fantastic work on this rom...
 
This was the first rom I ever flashed, I strayed a few times but ALWAYS came back home!!
Thank you Mr. Bobo.
 
The 1st rom I installed on the warp was chevanlols wp7, then Shinjitsu, then Unitology because StarScream2109 used me as a tester and I needed bluetooth because CA sucks with their laws haha. That was when we didn't have a good enough source and nobody could get bluetooth and wifi working until DTM made the Glitch kernel. Then n00b, then tried ICON, then back to n00b, then Project Yoshii as a tester, then AlienWarp as a tester, back to n00b again, CTMod 3.75 n00bed, back to n00b now. I've always came back to the best too. Funny to reflect once in awhile and remember the trials and tribulations of the Warp community and our beloved devs. It takes A LOT of patience to be a dev and especially one that is as easily accessible as MrBobo. It's proven to be the only way to truly have a top notch rom IMHO. It's why n00b is and Unitology was successful. I miss having starscream around. Sucks he was banned :(
 
I looked under StarScream2109 as well as his old Apollostar ID. The Unitology revised thread shows he's banned on all his posts

Edit: Tapatalk doesn't show banned in don't think because when looking from a PC it's showing banned :(
 
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