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'Dillo Hills [Development]
- Thread starter fex
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alfiecoleman
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You are quite right 
Is rooting my phone the only way to get Froyo? (2.2)
Is rooting my phone the only way to get Froyo? (2.2)I started playing this game with the beta testing, and have played several different versions of it now, including the final product. The one thing that was consistent throughout was poor framerates and extreme lag.
I just took the plunge and put the leaked version of Gingerbread 2.3.3 onto my Droid X. I immediately downloaded Dillo Hills and Adobe Air just to see if it helped at all, and the improvements are great. I can now play without any noticeable lag and decent framerate on high resolution; the only problem is that is crashes occasionally. IMO, the rare crash is worth it to be able to actually play and enjoy the game as fex intended it to be.
So if your willing enough to take the chance, lose your root if you have it, and always deal with the rare chance of bricking your device, it's a good option. Also, Gingerbread is so sexy, smooth, and quick. Other than the free wifi tethering and not having to view the bloatware, i don't even miss my root! (If your not rooted, there's really no reason not to get the leaked gingerbread, other than the obvious risks; if your rooted, you'll lose some nice stuff, but i like a little change).
Just thought I'd led people who were desperate for an option know!!
BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP ALWAYS BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP CANT HAVE TOO MANY!
I just took the plunge and put the leaked version of Gingerbread 2.3.3 onto my Droid X. I immediately downloaded Dillo Hills and Adobe Air just to see if it helped at all, and the improvements are great. I can now play without any noticeable lag and decent framerate on high resolution; the only problem is that is crashes occasionally. IMO, the rare crash is worth it to be able to actually play and enjoy the game as fex intended it to be.
So if your willing enough to take the chance, lose your root if you have it, and always deal with the rare chance of bricking your device, it's a good option. Also, Gingerbread is so sexy, smooth, and quick. Other than the free wifi tethering and not having to view the bloatware, i don't even miss my root! (If your not rooted, there's really no reason not to get the leaked gingerbread, other than the obvious risks; if your rooted, you'll lose some nice stuff, but i like a little change).
Just thought I'd led people who were desperate for an option know!!
BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP ALWAYS BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP CANT HAVE TOO MANY!
My 2 cents: The graphics/art is awesome. I don't really like the music. The concept of an armadillo rolling is much cooler than a bird gliding with the belly.
What (for me at least) are the major setbacks:
What (for me at least) are the major setbacks:
- The physics could be much better. Maybe if I hadn't played Tiny Wings, I wouldn't notice, but since I have and still do (my GF has an iPhone), I have to say that it is MUCH better than the current implementation of Dillo Hills. Especially when the character is soaring through the air (the rolling-on-the-hills parts is great).
- Performance. I have to set it on "Low" to run on my Nexus One And even in "Low" mode, the animation is not as smooth as I expected. I know mine is not the latest-generation Android phone, but I run games that seem to need the same or even higher graphics requirements (e.g.: Angry Birds, or some 3D games) and they run perfectly smooth.
I didn't see the Nexus One there. If you are interested, I am willing to collect perfomance data for you.
SupremeBeaver
Android Enthusiast
+1 for physics needing improvement. My brother has an ipod touch and tiny wings physics are flawless.
hey fex,
1st- awesome game.
ive read every post on this thread since it was started, and i know there have been very few, if any, reports i have read regarding performance on the htc incredible. so i'll put in my two cents-
totally unplayable on high and medium settings. it's like the game is lagging, but going a million miles an hour at the same time. weird sensation.
playable but still a little choppy on the low setting. (ie misses diamonds you clearly roll over, general choppiness, etc.)
i'd be willing to upload video of each setting if you would like.
i love the concept, and i've never played tiny wings, so i have no comparison there. keep up the good work, and ill keep practicing! (i suck) haha.
1st- awesome game.
ive read every post on this thread since it was started, and i know there have been very few, if any, reports i have read regarding performance on the htc incredible. so i'll put in my two cents-
totally unplayable on high and medium settings. it's like the game is lagging, but going a million miles an hour at the same time. weird sensation.
playable but still a little choppy on the low setting. (ie misses diamonds you clearly roll over, general choppiness, etc.)
i'd be willing to upload video of each setting if you would like.
i love the concept, and i've never played tiny wings, so i have no comparison there. keep up the good work, and ill keep practicing! (i suck) haha.
NightWing007
Lurker
Hey Fex, i have an Evo 4G on HTC Sense 2.2. I didnt have too many problems last night with the 1.0.0 version, other than the generic problems going around (little lag, necessary to run on Low, no multitasking capability). I did notice that it took a long time to start up for me. My phone would eventually ask me to force close the application, and if I pressed 'Wait,' then it would start running. I downloaded the 1.0.3 version today, and noticed the lag is a bit better, but I can still feel there is some lag. I have to agree with all the others about how the armadillo moves to fast horizontally and not enough vertically. Regarding achievements, I know you plan on instituting that into the application as soon as you can. Otherwise, I want you to know that I too am in Indianapolis (north side) and would love to test out any version of Dillo Hills you are working on. I'm sure you already have Evo testers, but from what I've been reading, my experience so far with Dillo Hills on an Evo is turning out better than most others. Thanks again though, it is a great game and a heck of a lot of fun!! I'm sure the game is just going to get better and better.
Please keep the discussion on-topic, folks. If you see a post that bothers you, please use the "Report...." button to alert on of the forum staff. I can assure you that several of us are taking a close interest in this and other related threads. 
Same here I have LG vortex and can't find it all that comes up is annoying orange Soundboard. I haven't even listened to tht app and its annoying
broads desire
Well-Known Member
playin on the htc desire 2.2 unbranded... used ALOT of memory and internal memory on the desire is grim as it is, requiring air aswell which is anothe 15mb ... untill can be stored to SD im ging to have to uninstall .... was a great play while i was playing though
I can kind of play it on medium, but I really have to put it on low graphics to get it to be near the performance it should be. The galaxy s phones have the best 3d and 2d performance of any phone out right now(besides certain brand new phones with dual-core) so I shouldn't have to put the settings that low to be playable. I am on froyo with adobe air installed.
IMHO, the developer should've waited to optimize this game more before putting it out. Its a really bad first impression for me.
IMHO, the developer should've waited to optimize this game more before putting it out. Its a really bad first impression for me.
MitchSamuels
Newbie
Guys, sorry to say, but the game doesn't suck. It's most likely your phone and/or ROM.
DeusExMachina
Lurker
I know this has already been mentioned, but I would suggest that you learn the native the native android SDK. I've dabbled in flash, iOS and am now learning to code for android. I don't blame AIR for the lag considering the amount of time put into development and the varied amount of android devices, a bug was bound to show up. AIR Is memory intensive which is why you should make the switch once the bugs are fixed. Also it would allow you to push your game to more phones that haven't been updated to 2,2 or 2.3. Anyway I'm sure you know this, with the amount of people posting for the most part helpful advice. Kudos on the game and can't wait to experience the refinement in the coming updates and hopefully other games/apps that you release, I hope to release my game in about a year from now.
I didn't delete your post, I moved it to the [Highscores] thread here because that seemed to be the subject.
frenchie007
Lurker
hey fex, or anyone else who has the answer. i know right now my question is probably not up top of your priority list but im just curious to know if my device will ever be able to play dillo hills. i have the htc aria. and this question isnt just for me im asking it for any other phone that lacks AIR... will we ever be able to get this game or not? id rather lose all hope of it than be kept going with false hope so id appreciate an answer. thanks!
fex
Well-Known Member
The only way that pre-2.2 phones will be able to play is if the game is completely reprogrammed using a new programming language instead of AIR.
While this is not something that is completely out of the question (in fact, I'd really like to do it eventually), it's also something that is not near the top of my priority list - especially since I'm going to have to actually learn that new programming language before I could start rewriting anything.
For those of you who are stuck with a pre-2.2 device and not currently eligible for an upgrade, there are alternative platforms for you to play Dillo Hills coming soon.
frenchie007
Lurker
Zone 4 isn't bad its zone 6 that's the problem I die on that zone every time i get to it.
And I get excellent performance on the motorola xoom there's no lag at all
stealthycow
Lurker
the Aria not being able to run AIR has nothing to do with being a pre-2.2 device, it's the ARMv6 processor. because if your version of Android was preventing you from playing dillo hills...well, I mean, you'd just root your phone and install CM7, obviously. it's a hardware limitation much more than it is a software one.
anyways, it's hard to find out if your phone is ARMv6 or ARMv7 (which AIR requires) but luckily (well I wouldn't say luckily...) Firefox requires an armv7 processor as well and they've compiled a nice little list for us....
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Platforms/Android#System_Requirements
aria, legend, optimus, etc. and there's nothing we can really do about that. adobe isn't about to support older phones (what's the point? old tech, probably would run horribly anyways) so short of Fex remaking his entire application there's not much to be done. and we can only hope when Fex does decide to remake his app he doesn't touch the Unity engine, which also doesn't support the above devices, preventing us from playing a few of the best Android apps such as Rocket Bunnies and Pig Rush...gotta keep up with the technology, guys! 2 year commitments will be the end of us all!
anyways, it's hard to find out if your phone is ARMv6 or ARMv7 (which AIR requires) but luckily (well I wouldn't say luckily...) Firefox requires an armv7 processor as well and they've compiled a nice little list for us....
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Platforms/Android#System_Requirements
aria, legend, optimus, etc. and there's nothing we can really do about that. adobe isn't about to support older phones (what's the point? old tech, probably would run horribly anyways) so short of Fex remaking his entire application there's not much to be done. and we can only hope when Fex does decide to remake his app he doesn't touch the Unity engine, which also doesn't support the above devices, preventing us from playing a few of the best Android apps such as Rocket Bunnies and Pig Rush...gotta keep up with the technology, guys! 2 year commitments will be the end of us all!
+1
Been following this thread since day 1 like many of you and I think Fex has produced a really great game. I tried the above on my Desire (Running GingerVillain) and had the same results, with no interaction I can get to the second island.
Other than that I haven't any issues with performance, even on 'high' setting.
Well done Fex!
So... I'm not really sure that's a problem. Sure, you'll get to island 2, but you'll have a really poor score. Doesn't need balancing IMO.