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Do you believe aliens exist?

Do you believe aliens exist?

  • Yes

    Votes: 73 83.9%

  • No

    Votes: 14 16.1%
  • Total voters
    87
Doesn't it strike you odd that throughout man's history he has always assumed there was something bigger and badder than himself? Be it gods or god or aliens.. there is something in man that desires to be an underling... an inferior being. We will bloody our knuckles on our fellow man because we think we are his superior yet we willingly bow to an unknown and unproven superior. Boggles my mind. ...might as well be aliens... works for me.
 
olbriar said:
Doesn't it strike you odd that throughout man's history he has always assumed there was something bigger and badder than himself? Be it gods or god or aliens.. there is something in man that desires to be an underling... an inferior being. We will bloody our knuckles on our fellow man because we think we are his superior yet we willingly bow to an unknown and unproven superior. Boggles my mind. ...might as well be aliens... works for me.
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Accepting the existence of Aliens isn't necessarily accepting the existence of a superior being. I believe aliens exist, but I don't necessarily believe that they are any more advanced than we are. It's possible, but we won't know until we actually make some kind of contact.
 
With a universe this large it is statistically naive to say life does not exist somewhere else.

Whether or not they have and do (or can) visit us is up for discussion.

With respect to creation I feel it is hard to believe God did not also create other beings on other celestial bodies or in other times/states.

There is nothing I know of in the bible to say God created beings only on planet Earth. It only speaks of creation on Earth.

If God did create life only on Earth it is also hard to think that life from here has not been deposited elsewhere....via meteor impact and expulsion from Earth. Would have to be hearty little devils to survive the trip but you never know. I'm not talking about 'higher' life forms but algae, bacteria, viruses and the like.

I've been watching UFO documentaries on Netflix(Wii) lately. Some are pretty good, some are horrible in their presenting of "facts". Some are downright stupid. One shows a "craft" "hovering" in a straight line thru trees and "glowing". If you look careful and say it's a ship on water lit up it's obvious it is a ship on water. Some of these documentaries will try to make you believe in something that really is just someone's imagination gone wild.

I feel area 51 and others are areas of very high technology created by us and probably (leaving a window open here) only us. The people at Skunkworks are incredible in what they can do. To think what Kelly Johnson did with the SR-71 at the time it was built is unreal. Can you imagine the stuff they have made since? My personal belief is the SR-71 is the most technological vehicle made(for it's time).

Returning to Mother ship. Will not post again until I can get a Wi-Fi signal...
 
Well God has been around forever right? And it only took him 7 days to create the earth. So why would we assume we're his only toy?
 
The question is does alien life exist? Some people answered by saying "probably". You are incorrect, as there is insufficient info to make a probability assertion.

There is the possibility that alien life exists. But saying it does or does not exist is an act of pure faith without a basis in reasonable evaluation of factual data.

Without that basis in evidence saying "I believe alien life must" is like saying "I believe wizards must exist". There's no evidence.

... Now if we were talking about LEPRECHAUNS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-Rt56n-vC4


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WHO ELSE SEEN THE LEPRECHAUN SAY YEAAHHH!!!
 
That bit about the Hubble scope really tells it all. I was taking Astronomy just after they had done that experiment. The teacher told us that the average galaxy holds around one hundred billion stars. The Hubble scope took a picture of space about the size of an eraser head if you held it at arms length against the night sky. And at the time their count had just tallied about 30 million galaxies in that tiny snapshot. The universe is so vast, it's truely beyond the comprehension of our tiny little brains.

Ok take the grain of sand thing.... imagine if you can filling our entire solar system with the finest sand you can find, compacted as tightly as you could compact it... can you even begin to fathom how many grains of sand that would be? Well if you can wrap your head around that, then take that figure, and that's (at least) how many planets exist in that tiny little snapshot of space that the hubble scope took. Now how many erasers do you think it would take to completely cover the night sky? You can take that figure and multiply it by all those grains of sand that would fill up our solar system. And that's just one small window into the universe, there's a hell of a lot more to it than what we can see on any given night.

Ok so out of all those grains of sand that each represents a planet rotating around a star out there, who has the audacity to say we are the ONLY one that supports life? Even if there was only some sort of life on one out of ever 100 trillion planets out there, that still leaves us with quadrillions of planets that have some sort of life on them.
 
To digress a bit.

I think there would be a big difference in people that believe LIFE exists somewhere in the universe vs. believes aliens(beings that visit Earth) exist. But maybe that is just an obvious statement.

Rock on...
 
there's no doubt in my mind that millions of civilizations have arose, fallen, and arose again over the life of our universe. We aren't the first life form to inhabit this planet, and we won't be the last.

Now the chance of us being visited by any of those other life forms I feel is incredibly low, but I can't personally rule it out completely. The biggest limiting factor is distance. If you took our sun and shrunk it down to a grain of sand, then the next closest star to us would be another grain of sand approximately 75 miles away from us. There is sooo much open space out there, it is truly incomprehensible. So the problem with aliens visiting us is, even if they have developed a method of travelling through space via the string theory, that doesn't eliminate the problem of light travel. What I'm getting at is, even if they, by some miracle, were able find us on their telescopes, the images they would see of us at this moment would have been from millions of years before even the dinosaurs were even around. The images of us now wouldn't reach them for millions of years. So by the time they could see us, we would already be extinct.

Which means the only possible way to have been visited by another life form is if they were so advanced that not only could they travel via the string theory, but they would also have to have devoloped some sort of non-visual recon technology for finding life forms around the universe.

Which I suppose is theoretically possible, but I can't comprehend how they could pull such a thing off.
 
Then again a slug couldn't comprehend a car travelling at 100 mph. That is the way I look at intelligence. We might be, in comparison, a slug to another being. Then again we might be the most intelligent beings around. We may never know. But it's fun to think about it with our slug intelligence(Inferiority theory popping up again)
 
Outlaw71 said:
That bit about the Hubble scope really tells it all. I was taking Astronomy just after they had done that experiment. The teacher told us that the average galaxy holds around one hundred billion stars. The Hubble scope took a picture of space about the size of an eraser head if you held it at arms length against the night sky. And at the time their count had just tallied about 30 million galaxies in that tiny snapshot. The universe is so vast, it's truely beyond the comprehension of our tiny little brains.

Ok take the grain of sand thing.... imagine if you can filling our entire solar system with the finest sand you can find, compacted as tightly as you could compact it... can you even begin to fathom how many grains of sand that would be? Well if you can wrap your head around that, then take that figure, and that's (at least) how many planets exist in that tiny little snapshot of space that the hubble scope took. Now how many erasers do you think it would take to completely cover the night sky? You can take that figure and multiply it by all those grains of sand that would fill up our solar system. And that's just one small window into the universe, there's a hell of a lot more to it than what we can see on any given night.

Ok so out of all those grains of sand that each represents a planet rotating around a star out there, who has the audacity to say we are the ONLY one that supports life? Even if there was only some sort of life on one out of ever 100 trillion planets out there, that still leaves us with quadrillions of planets that have some sort of life on them.
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HubbleSite - Hubble Deep Field
 
Wasn't it said in the late '90s by those in the know that our ancestors were Martians and after that planet went to crap we moved to earth where it was a bit cooler, so we are actually all the aliens.
 
bigbadwulff said:
Then again a slug couldn't comprehend a car travelling at 100 mph. That is the way I look at intelligence. We might be, in comparison, a slug to another being. Then again we might be the most intelligent beings around. We may never know. But it's fun to think about it with our slug intelligence(Inferiority theory popping up again)
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Exactly, which is why I say I can't rule it out completely. I know that as a fairly intelligent person, I can't comprehend some things that more intelligent people than I can. So obviously if there is an intelligent life form out there that had managed to survive without destroying their planet for millions of years, they would certainly have made tons of discoveries and created technologies that even the most intelligent man in our world could never comprehend.

Just look at how far our own technology has come in the last 100 years. Certainly even the most brilliant minds of the mid 1800's would never have been able to comprehend how I could take a tiny device out of my pocket, put it to my mouth and talk to someone in Africa on it. There's no way they would have ever believed that would ever be possible because the technology just didn't exist back then.

With technological advancement and discoveries come greater understanding and possibilities. So sure there always could be that sort of realization out there. If we as a species survives long enough, perhaps even we will come up with it.
 
byteware said:
Accepting the existence of Aliens isn't necessarily accepting the existence of a superior being. I believe aliens exist, but I don't necessarily believe that they are any more advanced than we are. It's possible, but we won't know until we actually make some kind of contact.
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If there are visiting aliens on earth... they are superior to us. We have no means to go visit them... even if we knew where they were. I'll go out on a limb and say they have a leg up on us.
 
Chalk up another tally mark for "Yes"

I do believe they exist...and do believe they have discovered us.
And no I am not crazy :p

EDIT: Funny I was just looking up info about the Battle of Los Angeles the other day (not the movie coming out)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQmbGMWlL7w
 
olbriar said:
If there are visiting aliens on earth... they are superior to us. We have no means to go visit them... even if we knew where they were. I'll go out on a limb and say they have a leg up on us.
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Believing that aliens exist doesn't mean you believe that we have been visited by them.
 
olbriar said:
If there are visiting aliens on earth... they are superior to us.
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I used to feel that to be true, but have come around to view space travel as not necessarily indicative of a superior race of beings.

Centuries ago, Europeans had high tech sea craft for their day, as compared to many of the cultures they visited, and were either absorbed or driven away by some of those other civilizations. True, they did overwhelm many of them, but not all.

And that caused me to realize that the ability to travel great distances is not an indication of superiority in all cases. Some, but not all.
 
SoFLO said:
Chalk up another tally mark for "Yes"

I do believe they exist...and do believe they have discovered us.
...And no I am not crazy :p
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Just an fyi, saying you're not crazy doesn't make it so.... and often hints that one just might be!



:)

;)

:D
 
Frisco said:
I used to feel that to be true, but have come around to view space travel as not necessarily indicative of a superior race of beings.

Centuries ago, Europeans had high tech sea craft for their day, as compared to many of the cultures they visited, and were either absorbed or driven away by some of those other civilizations. True, they did overwhelm many of them, but not all.

And that caused me to realize that the ability to travel great distances is not an indication of superiority in all cases. Some, but not all.
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Ok now the question to be asked is, what definition of 'superior' are we using? As far as militarily speaking goes, a race of beings on another planet that have survived long enough to come up with interstellar space/time travel would likely be a less aggressive life form. The fact that they hadn't killed themselves off would indicate that.

Are you superior to a great white shark? Well throw yourself out into the ocean in a speedo and nothing else and you won't stand a chance against one. But given all of the resources at your disposal... a boat, a tracking system, the knowledge that pouring blood into the water will bring him in close, and a simple hook dug into a piece of raw meat attached to a heavy guage fishing line... and now your intelligence has prevailed over the savage beast.

And the ability to travel the incomprehensible distances of outerspace, not to mention the technology to find a place to visit in this incredibly enormous universe I think would clearly indicate superior knowledge at the very least, and more than likely vastly superior intelligence. But that's what evolution is all about. Give the human mind even just another 10,000 years to evolve and it will figure out things we'd never believe were possible today. And I personally believe that any planet able to sustain life will over time produce an intelligent life form. I believe it's mathematically inevitable really. Whatever killed off the dinosaurs did so before one of them completely evolved into a superior being. They theorize that veloci-raptors were as intelligent as dolphins are today. Given another few million years.... who knows where they'd be.

We've been lucky enough to have enjoyed our evolution without any huge meteors slamming into us, or an ice age creeping up on us and the like. And I'm sure those same conditions have been present on trillions of other inhabitable planets around our universe. Given all the statistics, how could there not have been?
 
Well, to we human Earthlings, "technology" is what moves us around to places that we can't get to without it. We've often benefited in other areas from the research and testing and ongoing use of that technology, advancing our civilization in leaps and bounds over time (often a short time).

That's us.

But applying our experiences to beings on other worlds is a big mistake, in my opinion. There could be things out there that adapt to space travel as a rather mundane, primitive portion of their survival skills. They could just as well arrive on other inhabited planets who have not had to adopt such things as space travel, but who are quite superior to them.
 
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