gibsonhtp
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I don't see that website holding too much factual weight considering it looks like that website was just made and there are barely any replies, etc...
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I don't see that website holding too much factual weight considering it looks like that website was just made and there are barely any replies, etc...
Thats not the only place the Android 2.2 coming out soon was mentioned.
Being that the EVO is already finished and just waiting for the okay to send to warehouses and retail stores (most likely because of 4G being set up), it will come with 2.1
Once 2.2 Froyo is released it will simply be an OTA update. Which if I am to believe what I've been told will be by mid to end of summer.
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Being that the EVO is already finished and just waiting for the okay to send to warehouses and retail stores (most likely because of 4G being set up), it will come with 2.1
Once 2.2 Froyo is released it will simply be an OTA update. Which if I am to believe what I've been told will be by mid to end of summer.
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Sassy_Lina
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I'm just saying that I don't believe Flash will be included in Froyo. Froyo will have incremental changes thus the 2.x moniker and not 3.x. Usually .x anything is always incremental, when you see very significant changes the first number increases.
LatinP
Android Enthusiast
Flash 10.1 can be delivered as an app. It's nothing that has to be embedded into the OS and should be as easy to install on a PC as it is to install on Android, just run an apk and your done same way you would install a regular app.
Sassy_Lina
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That's what I am assuming will happen thanks LatinP.
cabbie
Android Expert
Froyo is expected to come with Flash integration. So if Flash is released in June, it may come as a part of Froyo at that time. So all you Nexus One owners can rejoice, you will surely receive this update first. The Droid and others should follow.
This is right in line with what we knew regarding a general launch window before thanks to Andy Rubin via the New York Times, and the fact that Froyo will come pre-loaded with Flash support gets us excited that those secret Android-centric I/O sessions may very well be based around Android 2.2.
Based upon Andy Rubin
LatinP
Android Enthusiast
All of your links are contradicting:
Link one, when you click it the headline says:
Flash 10.1 coming in June, Froyo may follow
This hints that's the two will not come embedded within each other.
Link two:
Flash 10.1 Coming In June, Will Be Previewed At Google I/O, Maybe Froyo As Well
See what it says there? Keyword Maybe.
Link Three:
Adobe to rollout Flash 10.1 to Android in June
No where does it say they will come together.
Link Four:
Official Flash 10.1 for Android 2.2
Yes it says official for Android but nowhere does it say it will come with 2.2 in fact flash could be delivered as an APK or a simple software update, flash is nothing but a run-time environment and does not have to come with the OS. It can most certainly come out tomorrow if it wanted to although it might not work until Android v2.2 but it doesn't come built into Froyo.
Link one, when you click it the headline says:
Flash 10.1 coming in June, Froyo may follow
This hints that's the two will not come embedded within each other.
Link two:
Flash 10.1 Coming In June, Will Be Previewed At Google I/O, Maybe Froyo As Well
See what it says there? Keyword Maybe.
Link Three:
Adobe to rollout Flash 10.1 to Android in June
No where does it say they will come together.
Link Four:
Official Flash 10.1 for Android 2.2
Yes it says official for Android but nowhere does it say it will come with 2.2 in fact flash could be delivered as an APK or a simple software update, flash is nothing but a run-time environment and does not have to come with the OS. It can most certainly come out tomorrow if it wanted to although it might not work until Android v2.2 but it doesn't come built into Froyo.
LatinP
Android Enthusiast
i just posted the links. take them as you will.
Oh ok I apologize then, I thought you were hinting at Froyo coming with Flash my mistake.
cabbie
Android Expert
well i happen to think it will, but thats just me. something i disagree with is the logic of saying flash is more than an incremental update, a numerical increase in the first number of a version is for updates that aren't incremental, froyo will be 2.2 not 3.0, ergo it will not have flash.
LatinP
Android Enthusiast
Flash is an app more than anything. It's a run-time platform that can be added to any OS as long as the hardware is sufficient to make use of it. Adobe can release it's Flash 10.1 release on the Android market with no special need of OS support what so ever. Look at flash for the PC, does it come with Windows or do you go to the Adobe site and download/install it? It's the samething.
Android 17
Android Enthusiast
I personally think it might be embedded in the OS too, because Flash will be used for a lot of things, and not just website rendering, it will also allow support for brand new types of Android apps.
I think unless Google sets up an easy-notification system, such as say for example I downloaded a flash app and when I run it, it says "Your phone does not currently have flash, go to link a to download it now", it would actually cause more fragmentation amongst users.
It is true that a lot of Android users are more tech savvy than the typical consumer, but I have seen a lot of normal, everyday users with Droids, so not everyone will have the instinct or knowledge to simply go into the marketplace and think to download Flash.
Basically, my point is, Flash is going to be a huge deal for the future of Android phones, and by including it in the OS, it would cause less confusion for the casual consumer and also ensure developers of Android apps that it will have a higher penetration rate.
Again, I'm just voicing my opinion here and I may be entirely wrong, but to me this makes the most sense.
I think unless Google sets up an easy-notification system, such as say for example I downloaded a flash app and when I run it, it says "Your phone does not currently have flash, go to link a to download it now", it would actually cause more fragmentation amongst users.
It is true that a lot of Android users are more tech savvy than the typical consumer, but I have seen a lot of normal, everyday users with Droids, so not everyone will have the instinct or knowledge to simply go into the marketplace and think to download Flash.
Basically, my point is, Flash is going to be a huge deal for the future of Android phones, and by including it in the OS, it would cause less confusion for the casual consumer and also ensure developers of Android apps that it will have a higher penetration rate.
Again, I'm just voicing my opinion here and I may be entirely wrong, but to me this makes the most sense.
LatinP
Android Enthusiast
It doesn't, HTML5 isn't even a standard yet. And H.264? No idea why a video codec would have anything to do with this.
cabbie
Android Expert
I'm still learning a lot about all these standards and keep seeing h.264 thrown around when it comes to conversations about flash and html5. Forgive my n00bness
LatinP
Android Enthusiast
I'm still learning a lot about all these standards and keep seeing h.264 thrown around when it comes to conversations about flash and html5. Forgive my n00bness
H.264 is a block-oriented motion-compensation video codec it can be programmed inside flash and deliver videos, same can be said for HTML5. I guess they're benchmarking one against the other, only an assumption but HTML5 isn't even complete and I don't see it mainstreaming anytime soon, Apple might promote it to death but I wouldn't expect to see it on literally every site you go to like flash for years to come.
h.264 because it's being used on some HTML5 video streaming sites now.
samplerate
Newbie
Well the only reason that is being done is because the iPhone doesn't (and will never) support flash
. HTML5 and h.264 are both what apple is listing as "equivalents" to flash, although come no where close to the ease of development and flexibility of true flash.
LatinP
Android Enthusiast
Well the only reason that is being done is because the iPhone doesn't (and will never) support flash
Again HTML5 is not even a standard yet, just because there are a few sites streaming videos in HTML5 doesn't mean it's going to mainstream. Not now, not in 2012... it's going to take HTML5 years and years and years to catch up to flash. H.264 is just a video codec nothing more nothing less.
The Evo is shipping with 2.1, huge disappointment. After all this drama with Sprint trying to update the Hero and Moment, I have very little faith in them releasing Froyo in any sort of timely manner. I am sure the Evo will be running the outdated 2.1 for the rest of 2010. Even more reason I am leaning towards the N1 when it comes to Sprint.
dcdttu
Well-Known Member
I wish it was 'simple' lol. The Droid, Hero and other phones and their months-long delay getting 2.1 is kinda proof that there is a lot of work and bureaucracy involved in getting an update on a phone.
Unfortunately the Evo will be tricky, as 4G isn't exactly baked into Android that I know of (like 1.5 Android running CDMA). Hopefully they're chugging along with Froyo and will get it on the phone ASAP. Hell, they may be waiting for the next one and skip Froyo all together like most did with 2.0!
shadrap
Android Enthusiast
Let's not forget about Froyo. As of now, rumor is that the Evo will be the second phone to receive 2.2, behind the Nexus one. Sprint devices have a history of delays with updates, let's hope this isn't the case. Froyo will supposedly run 450% faster than the current 2.1. This is a huge difference and one that we hopefully will not wait long for.
crackerstyle
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Android 2.2 will support Flash, it never says it's coming WITH Flash. It's like webOS 1.4 when it was released a month or so ago. Flash support will be in the OS, so that when Flash finally comes out, it'll integrate immediately.