"Gay Androids" at Pride Parade Chicago

[Vihzel]

Personally, I think Pride in general can be a dangerous thing, as it often ends up in huge fights or worse. Everybody wants theirs, and as someone mentioned, how come there isn't a Straight pride parade, etc.... Highlighting one group of people without the other is bound to stir up some trouble. Even if it's just for one day.

I think it's perhaps straight people don't need to show their pride in being straight because no one is being oppressed by being straight. I've never heard of any hate crimes against straight people. It's similar to how African Americans are proud of their background. Obviously... black power and white power have different meanings. It would be the same if it was "gay power" and "straight power"... at least, that's my perspective.

 

[Frisco]

And some people are just taught that it's flat-out wrong, and a blasphemy to their faith... and that kind of thing can be a ridiculous barrier to overcome.

I agree about things being taught early on in one's life being very difficult to overcome. But it can be very liberating once it's done.

My folks were Christian Scientists, so doctors and medicine were the "blasphemy to their faith," along with much of any acknowledgment that one could get sick at all, let alone actually be gravely ill or even in pain.

Every time a Christian Scientist falls ill, the strategy is to not only pray over them, but also to cause them to "come to the Truth, for they are convinced of a lie, the lie of any imperfection in God's Temple, the human body."

..etc. Like homophobia, I bought into it; everybody who did not believe what I believed was awash in a Big Lie.

Often there is a mixture of insight and outright twisted logic in their thinking.

One day I asked my Dad where this lie came from if God made everything perfect. "It does not exist," he answered, "it is an illusion. Dark does not exist, it is merely the absence of light. Lies are the same way, merely the absence of Truth. Once in the Truth, we see and are healed."

"Where did the illusion come from if God made us perfect?" I asked, "why do we have to keep finding our way around and out of things that don't exist?"

The look on his face helped turn me around and it also comes to mind when I'm listening to somebody talk about "blasphemy" whether in reference to gays or atheism or whatever.

They simply have a mindset which they feel safe in, no matter how patently absurd that mindset is.

 

[OfTheDamned]

And some people are just taught that it's flat-out wrong, and a blasphemy to their faith... and that kind of thing can be a ridiculous barrier to overcome.

More people have been killed in the name of religion than every war in history..

That would be half the source of my name.

Let not take this to the point of no return now. lets get back on topic (is there a topic, i forgot).

Oh yeah, Gays Androids at Chicago Pride. Speaking of which, I was sort of shocked at some of the comments when Phandroid broke the story "Google and Android Support Gay Pride"

TS

I still love it and think it is a great thing.

Personally, I think Pride in general can be a dangerous thing, as it often ends up in huge fights or worse. Everybody wants theirs, and as someone mentioned, how come there isn't a Straight pride parade, etc.... Highlighting one group of people without the other is bound to stir up some trouble. Even if it's just for one day.

This year on mother's day my son asked why we celebrated mother's day and father's day, but didn't have a kid's day. I explained that while there technically was a kid's day somewhere on the calendar that more or less every day is kid's day and that one day out of the year it is nice to show appreciation towards the mother's and father's that take care of us, raised us and brought us into this world (my girlfriend and I take turns each year with father's day). He agreed with me to my utter shock and gave both his mothers a hug.

I view pride days as the same thing in many ways. It is a chance for gay people from all walks of life to show their pride and perhaps help others be proud of who they are too. I think it has helped many people come out of the closet and shown others that they are not alone. You will also notice that pride days do not generally exclude anyone. Gay or straight everyone is welcome to the party.

 

[G.Armour]

I figured u may have got your name from the last movie Aaliah was ever in.. Quenn of the Damned.

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[zoiko]

Man that was a cool idea... I wish I would have thought of that shirt design. back to the drawing board...

 

[Fonseca]

Men like the the idea of bi-sexual women in reality. If they really think about the fact that a "real" lesbian doesn't want anything to do with them physically then they change their view a little. If I was involved with even the most amazing woman on earth and she wanted to bring a guy into bed it would put an end to it. Much the same that I imagine many straight guys would have a problem with another man in bed.

Good job lumping all men together. Isn't making sweeping generalizations one of the issues we have here? Saying all men like/want a bi sexual woman is like saying all lesbians want butch type women (which we both know is not true at all). I do not like the idea of a bisexual girl, nor have I ever been interested in one. Not all men like that idea. Just saying.


If the woman I am with wanted to bring a man or woman into bed, that would be the end of it.

 

[IOWA]

I accept pretty much any persons choice regardless of combination or orientation, but women's bodies are just better looking; so the imagery is nicer with lesbians. Given the choice I'd like to see four boobies squashing together, rather than the jousting of even the best looking pair of cocks.

I'm inclined to agree here... mens body's are fugly lol. Women have curves... oh those curves...

But maybe the men can "dress up"...

Put on glow in the dark condoms and re-enact star wars.

 

[Fonseca]

Let not take this to the point of no return now. lets get back on topic (is there a topic, i forgot).

Oh yeah, Gays Androids at Chicago Pride. Speaking of which, I was sort of shocked at some of the comments when Phandroid broke the story "Google and Android Support Gay Pride"

TS

Why would you be shocked? Don't you know one of the rules of the Internet?


Normal person + Internet Anonymity = Douchebag

 

[Vihzel]

I'm inclined to agree here... mens body's are fugly lol. Women have curves... oh those curves...

Speak for yourself. lol

 

[dmodert66]

The thing people are missing here is that Google (and rightly so) gave the same rights to homosexuals that they do heterosexuals. You see, Google operates in many states. In most of those states gay marriage is not considered legal. By making up the salary difference/or benefits, all they are doing is saying that all people are welcome in their company. Google supporting (and providing T-shirts) is no different than them supporting the US. For example, If they decided to give an American Flag T-Shirt to all of their employees, would you find that offensive?

I'm just asking because there are many people in the US who tromp on, burn and other wise desecrate America on a regular basis.

I think all that Google has done, is support their employees that may not have the same sexual orientation. This is allowed by constitutional law, so I really don't see what the issue is.

 

[mpw]

...I really don't see what the issue is.

The issue is that they're paying their homosexual employees (in some situations) more than they do their heterosexual employees; I don't believe that is a good example of equality.

 

[inssane]

Personally, I think Pride in general can be a dangerous thing, as it often ends up in huge fights or worse.

So does the irish parade in Chicago...so no Irish parade I guess.
And show me one news article where there was a fight at the GP parade in Chicago. I am sure you were there one year and saw one, right?

Don't make assumptions and post them as truth.

 

[ThorSkaagi]

Straight men are more accepting of "lipstick" lesbians because deep down many of them still hold the idea that all they need is "one good man" to set them "straight".

That's kind of how it is with me, except the other way around. I grew up thinking I was straight, because I thought that was the only way. Later on, I started to realize my attractions to men, then I started considering my self bisexual for a couple years. And now I'm leaning towards gay right now, but like OfTheDamned said, it may just take "one good woman" to set me "straight". I'm only 17 and in no way do I have any of this figured out.

 

[Frisco]

That's kind of how it is with me, except the other way around. I grew up thinking I was straight, because I thought that was the only way. Later on, I started to realize my attractions to men, then I started considering my self bisexual for a couple years. And now I'm leaning towards gay right now, but like OfTheDamned said, it may just take "one good woman" to set me "straight". I'm only 17 and in no way do I have any of this figured out.

My wife's brother went through that. He's in his 40s and settled down with a guy he's been with for 10 years now.

He explains the "bisexual bit," as he calls it, as a "time of safe transition between when I was acting straight to now finally being myself."

 

[ThorSkaagi]

My wife's brother went through that. He's in his 40s and settled down with a guy he's been with for 10 years now.

He explains the "bisexual bit," as he calls it, as a "time of safe transition between when I was acting straight to now finally being myself."

That's exactly what it was/is for me. Except, no matter how much I may like a guy, I don't think that I would ever date him. I know that sounds weird, but that's how it is. I've actually never dated anyone yet, so I guess I really wouldn't know.

 

[Frisco]

That's exactly what it was/is for me. Except, no matter how much I may like a guy, I don't think that I would ever date him. I know that sounds weird, but that's how it is. I've actually never dated anyone yet, so I guess I really wouldn't know.

Well, you're a young person; things will pan out over time.

I do not understand sexual attraction to anything other than women, so I'm at a loss as to those choices gays sometimes talk about.

 

[BubbaHotepUK]

Trying to stay on topic I will say that I think it is great that Google supports and/or chooses to advertise with the Gay community. It makes me very proud to use Android, gmail, etc. I am going to start sending some of these links to my gay friends that choose to support Apple. Just to start trouble. .....

Hehe, but before you start Apple-baiting, remember Apple have a pretty strong record on supporting gay rights. They even donated a big wad of cash to oppose the anti-marriage campaign in California.

According to Stephen Fry, there is an App on the iPhone for geo-locating other gays in your vicinity (though how this works is beyond me!).

Well, you're a young person; things will pan out over time.

I do not understand sexual attraction to anything other than women, so I'm at a loss as to those choices gays sometimes talk about.

I don't understand how people could possibly find Robin Williams funny, but I've learnt to accept they do .

I think the point is that gay people don't actually have choice about who they fancy any more than you or I. It's nice to know that they do choose Android though.

 

[Frisco]

I don't understand how people could possibly find Robin Williams funny, but I've learned to accept they do .

I think the point is that gay people don't actually have choice about who they fancy any more than you or I.

Oh I understand that, they're wired the way they are and heterosexuals are wired the way I am, with regard to attractions of that nature.

Saying "I dont' understand attraction to men" is just my way of offering that, if I do attempt to talk about homosexuality, it is from a standpoint of education, not of experience. It's not "organic," it has less value than a gay person talking about it.

 

[Slug]

I'm at a loss as to those choices gays sometimes talk about.

I think the biggest 'choice' can be whether to be true to oneself or to comply with society's expectations/sterotypes.

My neighbours in the flat across the landing are a gay couple who have been together for over 30 years. One was a police officer in London and spent his entire career living like James Bond for fear of being 'outed' due to the homophobic climate within the Met, while his partner worked in the West End theatre industry and was regularly verbally abused, spat at or even attacked simply for 'looking queer'. Live a lie or be honest? Neither was much of a choice back then.... fortunately society is (mostly) more accepting today.

 

[mpw]

...According to Stephen Fry, there is an App on the iPhone for geo-locating other gays in your vicinity (though how this works is beyond me!)...

By GADAR.

I believe the app you're thinking of is Growler, and it's just like Latitude, you login to your Growler account, and other Growler users logged in appear on your map, allowing you to view their profiles, contact them etc.

 

[Frisco]

I think the biggest 'choice' can be whether to be true to oneself or to comply with society's expectations/sterotypes.

My neighbours in the flat across the landing are a gay couple who have been together for over 30 years. One was a police officer in London and spent his entire career living like James Bond for fear of being 'outed' due to the homophobic climate within the Met, while his partner worked in the West End theatre industry and was regularly verbally abused, spat at or even attacked simply for 'looking queer'. Live a lie or be honest? Neither was much of a choice back then.... fortunately society is (mostly) more accepting today.

My heart goes out to that fellow who worked in theater and was abused like that.

It's an old story; I spent most of my adult life in the San Francisco bay area and worked and socialized with people for decades who's sexual orientation ran the spectrum.

When the subject came up, there were a lot of experiences expressed such as the one you mention.

"Do you really think we consciously chose to be this way?" some would say, "Why the hell would we choose to be spit on, verbally assaulted and even physically attacked, fired and disrespected, etc."

It is good to see that progress is being made in merry olde England, even.

 

[ThorSkaagi]

Live a lie or be honest? Neither was much of a choice back then.... fortunately society is (mostly) more accepting today.

Well, I'm currently in the 'living in a lie' stage. I've told a few close friends, but nothing beyond that. Mainly because I'm going into the US Air Force, and if word got to them, I will get KICKED OUT :/

 

[Vihzel]

Well, I'm currently in the 'living in a lie' stage. I've told a few close friends, but nothing beyond that. Mainly because I'm going into the US Air Force, and if word got to them, I will get KICKED OUT :/

Thank you for serving for our country. There are many other gays and lesbians serving in the military right now in the closet. Hopefully Don't Ask, Don't Tell will be overturned soon.

 

[ThorSkaagi]

Thank you for serving for our country. There are many other gays and lesbians serving in the military right now in the closet. Hopefully Don't Ask, Don't Tell will be overturned soon.

Much appreciated . Yes, Don't Ask, Don't Tell is an absolute disgrace to the entire military and country.

 

[G.Armour]

Thank you for serving for our country. There are many other gays and lesbians serving in the military right now in the closet. Hopefully Don't Ask,

Much appreciated . Yes, Don't Ask, Don't Tell is an absolute disgrace to the entire military and country.

But that's the way it has to be right now! There are to many ppl that don't accept gay ppl right now. We've already heard story's of what others have experienced. Now take those story's and give all the ppl in them guns that they can reach at any moment and its a recipe for disaster. Also, have u ever seen the movie full metal jacket? I'm afraid that if someone did out themselves I'm the military their treatment would be just about as bad as what gomer pile got it that movie.. its not fact, only my opinion.

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