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Root [Kernel] Imoseyon LeanKernel 3.7.0
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WormDoes
Android Expert
For what it's worth, do not lower the 245 slot under 750. I'm not going to pretend that I know why I just remember Imoseyon saying that when he was still active on xda. Also, the 368 slot, if UV too low will cause random freezes and boot loops. Just stuff to consider when UV.
Lastly, I asked Imoseyon what his preferred kernel settings were and he said extreme and iX. I was psyched to hear that because that's what I've run since day 1 of using his kernels
. When I asked him why he didn't manually UV he said it's more of a placebo effect and "really just something cool to do", but doesn't really have any significant effect on battery life
Just some food for thought
Lastly, I asked Imoseyon what his preferred kernel settings were and he said extreme and iX. I was psyched to hear that because that's what I've run since day 1 of using his kernels
. When I asked him why he didn't manually UV he said it's more of a placebo effect and "really just something cool to do", but doesn't really have any significant effect on battery lifeJust some food for thought
bjanow
Android Expert
But extreme is UV as well as 1400. I just ran speedtweak and set it to extreme, Ix. Bedtime, report back tom.......
Lastly, I asked Imoseyon what his preferred kernel settings were and he said extreme and iX. I was psyched to hear that because that's what I've run since day 1 of using his kernels
Just some food for thought
Always. And I did it twice. I'll give tiamat a try again, it was a smooth kernel, even if it ate my battery so quickly. Gonna get SetCPU on it, undervolt 100mA, and see if things will be different this time around.
WormDoes
Android Expert
I meant manually UV. I'll edit my post so it's more specific
For what it's worth, do not lower the 245 slot under 750. I'm not going to pretend that I know why I just remember Imoseyon saying that when he was still active on xda. Also, the 368 slot, if UV too low will cause random freezes and boot loops. Just stuff to consider when UV.
Lastly, I asked Imoseyon what his preferred kernel settings were and he said extreme and iX. I was psyched to hear that because that's what I've run since day 1 of using his kernels
Just some food for thought
Same setting here. I do use a SetCPU widget but I don't allow it to do anything to my speeds.
Hum, are you using the DT modded version or IMO's version? I would suggest trying the other, IMO's version worked fine for me, flashing and running, I just didn't like the battery. Have you tried IMO's .8?
Ibrick
Android Expert
I believe it was because Imo has the min allowable voltage setting at 750, which would create problems if people tried to lower it further. Probably trying to protect people from themselves I would imagine.
I'll look into cooking one up later tonight or tomorrow, I haven't seen one out there but I looked up what will be required to make one and think I should be able to...I'll test out on my phone before posting it.
Ibrick
Android Expert
but I will try, now I got something to do when I get home
WormDoes
Android Expert
what "issues" are people having? I've flashed both of the .8 kernels many, many times and have never had one issue
Ibrick
Android Expert
You know if Ziggy wasn't such a douche about his kernels, we'd have another option than Imo.. I really hope someone steps up to the plate soon.
I gave the any kernel version of Kang Bang another shot and it was terrific for the 2min my phone was running until it hard froze and I had to pull the battery.
If you can't work out 3.5.8 ill play with the voltages some more and see if I can get it stable. Having 85737282937565 slots is a pain in the ass though..
I gave the any kernel version of Kang Bang another shot and it was terrific for the 2min my phone was running until it hard froze and I had to pull the battery.
If you can't work out 3.5.8 ill play with the voltages some more and see if I can get it stable. Having 85737282937565 slots is a pain in the ass though..
Ibrick
Android Expert
Flashing the 'any kernel' script, not the kernel itself. 3.5.8 is solid. That's why I want an 'any kernel' version of it.
WormDoes
Android Expert
Oh, I missed the "an" and just saw "any kernel version of 3.5.8"
Ibrick
Android Expert
Lol.. that was what I figured.. 3.5.8 has been nothing but great for me. Id still be running RHCP'S volume tweaked version if it was a little smoother with Shift 2.1
Still my favorite kernel to date, and an any kernel version I think would be the ultimate for DT's ROM's right now.
I was using the modded version. Finally got it to load past the lock screen. Turns out there isn't a speedtweak script in there either. And then it froze on me. I'll try the original version tomorrow once I test out Slayher's kernel for the day.
brizey
Android Enthusiast
I think 750 is the minimum that the hardware supports, IIRC.
brizey
Android Enthusiast
For what it's worth, do not lower the 245 slot under 750. I'm not going to pretend that I know why I just remember Imoseyon saying that when he was still active on xda. Also, the 368 slot, if UV too low will cause random freezes and boot loops. Just stuff to consider when UV.
Lastly, I asked Imoseyon what his preferred kernel settings were and he said extreme and iX. I was psyched to hear that because that's what I've run since day 1 of using his kernels
Just some food for thought
While I appreciate what Imo does...what he is saying flies in the face of very well established power management strategies. So unless he has specific reasons why it does not work like it does in pretty much every other system ever built, I will continue to manually undervolt. I hate to pull an ad hominem, but given his recent track record on managing battery life, I would say that he is not an expert (not that I am either).
Even in a situation like a high voltage transmission line, where higher voltages mean lower losses (air is a better dielectric than copper is a conductor), you have to actually change the hardware (transformer) to use higher voltages with positive effect. What happens from a system point of view is that the transformer changes the effective resistance. Just raising the voltages alone does not work. In essence, Ohms law is tough to beat, and as long as there is a linear resistive loss in the load, a lower voltage will result in less loss.
Clock speed management practices may overwhelm the gain had from tweaking and already undervolted system. Good management that keeps the phone running smoothly at lower clock speeds will indeed result in better battery life. But keep in mind one of the main reasons lower clock speeds use less power is they can operate at lower voltages.
I still think the 10-15 minutes is takes to get a tune on Imo's voltages is worth it. I use the same voltages over and over, so I have 1 minute in Incredicontrol every time I load a new kernel. I have jdeclipse done, too. So dream kernel, Imo, and jdeclipse are just one minute for me to tune now.
bjanow
Android Expert
^^ Great write up. Please post your IC voltages for the major slots.