so, when does that 400 years start. whether it's christian inquisitions, crusades, etc. or islamic jihad, i am unaware of any time that the 3 have lived in harmony.
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Mosque Being Built 2 Blocks Away From Ground Zero... What Do You Think?
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so, when does that 400 years start. whether it's christian inquisitions, crusades, etc. or islamic jihad, i am unaware of any time that the 3 have lived in harmony.
ZDroid1
Android Enthusiast
If a Jewish extremist blows up a building in Saudi Arabia, or a Christian extremist, you don't go and build a church or a synagogue there. It's just in poor taste, and the fact that they're defiant about it and citing their constitutional rights just confirms what I'm saying.
If their intentions are good, they will release a statement saying, "We are dismayed that people are taking it the wrong way. This is contrary to what we were hoping to achieve, so we're going elsewhere with this."
If their intentions are good, they will release a statement saying, "We are dismayed that people are taking it the wrong way. This is contrary to what we were hoping to achieve, so we're going elsewhere with this."
tripledigit
Newbie
I agree,Atheism/Freethinkng for me thank you
The reality of it is that Science has done more for western civilization in the last 100 years than Christianity did Eighteen hundred
Morality is doing right,no matter what you're told...
Religion is doing what you're told no matter what is right.....
A.Nonymous
Extreme Android User
The thing is the guy is right. He's absolutely right. Can you honestly tell me that the US's meddling in Middle Eastern affairs for the past 20-30 years had nothing to do with 9/11? It was a huge factor in the motivations of the hijackers. And yes, we did train Osama in the first place.
Isthmus
Android Expert
I tend to agree with this assessment. After reading through the quoted comments, much of what this man said seems to be in the abstract and intended to get people to question the point and research it further. None of what is written there seems to imply his personal views one way or another (let alone his promoting of extremism).
Still, that doesn't mean that I agree with some of the points raised, or that they are necessarily accurate.
ZDroid1
Android Enthusiast
I concur.
A.Nonymous
Extreme Android User
Why do they look like assholes? The Islam the imam in question here advocates is not the radical Islam the terrorists practiced. In fact, it's the opposite.
jayjay1122
Android Expert
I agree. That doesn't mean it's not painful for the survivors and family members of the victims.
They have been made aware of it. And their intention is still to build the center at that location.
So, they are aware that they are causing pain to the survivors and family members of the victims of 9/11, and yet they continue. That makes them assholes in my opinion.
ZDroid1
Android Enthusiast
If their intention was to show a different side of Islam, they're failing quite miserably. They're like a guy who came to apologize to me for beating me up, and when I say I'll think about it, he drags my face on the floor and insists on being my friend.
Muslims don't seem to detect irony when it smacks them on the face. It reminds me of when the Danish newspaper published the cartoons, accusing Islam of violence, so Muslims responded by burning embassies.
Muslims don't seem to detect irony when it smacks them on the face. It reminds me of when the Danish newspaper published the cartoons, accusing Islam of violence, so Muslims responded by burning embassies.
My predictions: they came true.
UPDATED: Arson at future Islamic Center site 'takes it to a whole new level' | dnj.com | The Daily News Journal
UPDATED: Arson at future Islamic Center site 'takes it to a whole new level' | dnj.com | The Daily News Journal
hakr100
Android Expert
Isthmus
Android Expert
I'm confused? this is a report of a mosque project in Tennessee, not NYC. Did you mean to predict that the NYC project's controversy would spill into violent acts against muslims in other parts of the country?
BTW, here is a really interesting article from today's NY Post (though it is reported in several other local papers as well. It seems the developer might be in violation of his lease with half the site, and owes a bunch of money in back taxes. all issues that must be addressed before any project get sany approval. It seems like every day this project is further and further from being as solid as most people think.
Updated: Sun., Aug. 29, 2010, 6:41 AM
Mosque big owes 224G tax
By ISABEL VINCENT and MELISSA KLEIN
Last Updated: 6:41 AM, August 29, 2010
Posted: 2:59 AM, August 29, 2010
The mosque developers are tax deadbeats.
Sharif El-Gamal, the leading organizer behind the mosque and community center near Ground Zero, owes $224,270.77 in back property tax on the site, city records show.
El-Gamal's company, 45 Park Place Partners, failed to pay its half-yearly bills in January and July, according to the city Finance Department.
The delinquency is a possible violation of El-Gamal's lease with Con Edison, which owns half of the proposed building site on Park Place. El-Gamal owns the other half but must pay taxes on the entire parcel.
The lease agreement, obtained by The Post, specifies that El-Gamal's company pay taxes on the property and submit receipts to Con Ed.
The utility said it would have to review any possible lease violations.
The late taxes are the latest wrinkle in the controversial plan to put the 15-story mosque near the World Trade Center site.
Before any building can go forward, the developers also must get approval from the MTA because the 2 and 3 subway lines run under a portion of the Park Place property, The Post has learned.
El-Gamal's spokesperson insisted to The Post that the taxes had been paid and that the "subway lines do not pose a problem."
El-Gamal plans to tear down the two buildings on the Park Place site, which housed a Burlington Coat Factory store but have been empty since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, when one was damaged.
The Post revealed this month that El-Gamal owned only half the site. Gamal purchased the lease to the Con Ed property for $700,000 last year when he bought the other building on the site for $4.8 million.
He has told Con Ed he wants to buy the building at 49-51 Park Place, which Con Ed is appraising to determine fair market value.
El-Gamal insisted to The Post that the lease permitted him to demolish the property at any time.
But the lease agreement says El-Gamal must provide Con Ed with a copy of a financing commitment or other proof that money is available to "cover the estimated cost of demolition of the building and construction of the new building."
Additional reporting by Lois Weiss
isabel.vincent@nypost.com
Well, yeah. Kinda. It wasn't exactly at the NYC center, but it's hard to not think there's gonna be an increase in backlash against the Muslims. Or at least something similar to this was not reported before if it did occur. It seems to be amplified by the current situation.
If something were to happen to the one in NYC, I think it would a lot worse just because of the attention it has been receiving lately. Both the acts of violence and then the reaction to it, especially by the Muslims.
CNN.com - Suspect: Church fires started as 'joke' - Mar 8, 2006
Here's a story about the Alabama church fires a couple of years ago. It had absolutely nothing to do with anything, they just apparently found it fun to burn churches.
Just because something happens, it doesn't mean it's related to anything.