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Root **Official** Droid X encrypted bootloader and efuse thread

Deleted - on a related note, why is there no delete button? The edit buttons says "Edit/Delete" but I sure don't see a option to delete.
 
jreed2560 said:
deleting post. I do not wish to argue anymore. If you don't want to root, don't. Just stop trying to convince me (or others) that we should take the device as is.
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I'm trying to figure out why you got it at all if you feel so strongly. You knew about the bootloader before it went on sales.

You bought it as is and now you can either take it back or see what happens. Enjoy what you have and if it ever gets rooted and cracked it'll be a bonus. If you can't do that there are pleanty of phones that you can do all the ROM flashing you want with. Vote with your wallet that's the only thing these companies care about is your $$

Is Moto being $%#$ heads for doing this -- IMO yes
Are they breaking the OHA agreement-- technically/legally NO, "spiritually" Maybe
Are ALL handsets protected - yes, some better than others.

Do you have some "right" to flash ROMS -- NO!

Now on a side note I don't see why they couldn't use that eFuse to simple confirm when a phone as been tampered with and deny repair or replacement service. Seems that would make everyone happy, well exept for everyone stealing hot spot service.

nuff said I'm out.
 
This is great! I'm assuming the Droid 2 will fall as well. Let's see, keyboard? No keyboard? Large display, normal display? Having choices are a good thing. Hopefully all the BS with root will quiet down now. Android, the Microsoft of the cell phone world.

PS, just being able to remove the bloatware is fabulous for now.

SH
 
StillHacking said:
This is great! I'm assuming the Droid 2 will fall as well. Let's see, keyboard? No keyboard? Large display, normal display? Having choices are a good thing. Hopefully all the BS with root will quiet down now. Android, the Microsoft of the cell phone world.

PS, just being able to remove the bloatware is fabulous for now.

SH
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I'm too afraid to do anything else because we can't do a nandroid backup :(
 
I leave the IRC for ONE DAY....and I miss the moment...lol

Thanks for the heads up PerCompLLC

Louder Volume Hack here I come!!!
 
well if you screw something up, you can always do a factory rest, that should restore all the apps and settings back to out of the box. and it may even remove root.
 
thenew3 said:
well if you screw something up, you can always do a factory rest, that should restore all the apps and settings back to out of the box. and it may even remove root.
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Actually
Fabolous said:
Here's what a factory reset does:

It wipes /data/ and /cache/, where all user data is kept.

It does nothing to /system/, where we are now removing apps from.

So that's why a factory reset does not bring back these system apps, and that's why if you do one, and the system doesn't see the backup assistant, it will FREAK OUT.
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Talk about some great news after a crappy night: I walked into the irc channel last night just in time to see everyone buzzing about the guy who was being a guinea pig and bricked his phone. The guy wasn't concerned and even had assumed it would happen, but man, I was pretty down when I went to bed.

I walked into work today, pulled up Phandroid and almost yelled out loud when I saw the Phandroid article "Droid X is rooted". FTW!
 
Hmm..I wonder what the US Patent office about 'legalizing' jailbreaking/rooting would do to force Moto to allow custom roms? Basically the ruling says 'You bought the device, you can modify it to run unathorized apps' Well..is a custom ROM...considerd an app? Or am I just wishful thinking.
 
Wishful thinking IMHO. The ruling is not a mandate that the devices be completely open. It's just that users can hack/root/jailbreak the phone without fear of repercussions. But it doesn't prevent the manufacturers from encrypting bootloaders, etc.
 
Nor does it permit someone to steal microcode that is not open source like the radio.

Motorola has to walk a thin line. Protect the device from accidental user screwup but don't hurt their bottom line by getting a bunch of bricked phones back because they boobie trapped it.

It is scarey to me, as a computer programmer and system admin, how many people undertake root but don't even understand the most basic concepts behind the instructions to gain root. When someone struggles with a commandline argument to copy a file from one place to another, you know there is some justification as to why some people shouldn't have root access.
 
Lars said:
Nor does it permit someone to steal microcode that is not open source like the radio.

Motorola has to walk a thin line. Protect the device from accidental user screwup but don't hurt their bottom line by getting a bunch of bricked phones back because they boobie trapped it.

It is scarey to me, as a computer programmer and system admin, how many people undertake root but don't even understand the most basic concepts behind the instructions to gain root. When someone struggles with a commandline argument to copy a file from one place to another, you know there is some justification as to why some people shouldn't have root access.
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Agreed, there is a line and if you can't do something as simple as copying a few files then you probably shouldn't be rooting in the first place.
 
Lars said:
Nor does it permit someone to steal microcode that is not open source like the radio.

Motorola has to walk a thin line. Protect the device from accidental user screwup but don't hurt their bottom line by getting a bunch of bricked phones back because they boobie trapped it.

It is scarey to me, as a computer programmer and system admin, how many people undertake root but don't even understand the most basic concepts behind the instructions to gain root. When someone struggles with a commandline argument to copy a file from one place to another, you know there is some justification as to why some people shouldn't have root access.
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Agreed on several points, but isn't the efuse technically limiting me from installing software onto My device? Doesn't this obviously contradict the precedent set in this ruling?

When I can install 2.2 or any future version of the os on my device for debugging rather than emulate on the pc, then I'd say they're complying. I think right now they're crossing the line.
 
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