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I bought the Bionic today. Thoughts:

1. I don't think that the Prime will be much better than Bionic in speed and smoothness. This is one buttery phone.

2. This Bionic screen sucks big time.

I'm torn on returning it and waiting for Prime or Vigor, or settling in with this thing for 2 years. Do you guys honestly have any idea how long the wait will be? What's the general agreement?

Latest rumors are @ 2 months around 11/17/2011.

I'm waiting for the Prime because I can. And if there is a release or hardware disappointment I can always backup to the bionic or one of the others at a reduced post release price.
As long as you have it run the heck out of it. Cycle the battery a couple times and smoke the thing to see if the rumors are true. Loss of 3G data when swapping in & out of 4G, buzzing on headsets, low vibration hard to feel in the pocket, low earpiece volume, low ringtone volume for little to normal background ambient noise (in the car road noise) and so on.

But if you think the display sucks, if it were me the more I looked at it the more it would suck.
 
I bought the Bionic today. Thoughts:

1. I don't think that the Prime will be much better than Bionic in speed and smoothness. This is one buttery phone.

2. This Bionic screen sucks big time.

I'm torn on returning it and waiting for Prime or Vigor, or settling in with this thing for 2 years. Do you guys honestly have any idea how long the wait will be? What's the general agreement?

If screen sucks to you, I'd consider returning unless it's excellent in other areas like battery, 3G/4G transition, camera, which look like issues to some. And if you don't use Webtop, it takes away some memory and RAM space, which won't be the case with Prime.
 
Yeah, it sounds like you're choosing the lesser of two evils here: The Bionic doesn't satisfy you, but it's better than the OG Droid. There IS a third option (hence your being in this forum): take Bionic back, stick it out with your poor Droid for 2 months, and get the Prime. THEN choose the better of the two. We'd hate to hear you having REAL buyer's remorse over Bionic if Prime is everything it's being touted as.
 
I bought the Bionic today. Thoughts:

1. I don't think that the Prime will be much better than Bionic in speed and smoothness. This is one buttery phone.

2. This Bionic screen sucks big time.

I'm torn on returning it and waiting for Prime or Vigor, or settling in with this thing for 2 years. Do you guys honestly have any idea how long the wait will be? What's the general agreement?


TAKE IT BACK!!!!! Resist.....Resist....Quick, someone slap him!!
 
I happen to semi-know troll killer, and you will all be appalled to know that he has an apple wallpaper on his Bionic.

So, regardless, he has crap for brains.

:p
 
Had a quick, kinda off topic question. Does anyone know if VZW is still honoring 1-year upgrades if it became available before they discontinued them? The website doesn't attribute it, but I thought they would.

It might be inconsequential... I'm almost definitely going for the Prime as long as updates aren't dependent on Samsung, and my 2-year upgrade is available 12/29... not a terrible wait and I might be able to weasel my way into getting the upgrade a month early.
 
wasn't there an article stating that the major changes of the new ICS are being pushed back to be included in the new rumored Jelly Bean ?

I think it's totally ridiculous that there is already a rumor about the next version, when the new version hasn't even been released yet.

AAAhhhhh technology. .

You know what's so funny, I have always been the guy who waits for the next thing, but every time that something new is about to drop, something new is announced of what might come in just a few more months, and I am always sitting on the sidelines and not enjoying anything, but skipping and always waiting for the next thing. . .I think the Prime will do just fine, and it would take A LOT to make me wait on something else now.

I am sticking to the Prime this time. .At first it was the GSII, but they took WAY too long to bring it to the US, so now it's the Prime, and THAT'S IT

Take the Bionic back dude, and wait till all the new devices drop, than you have the option to see them all and pick your flavor. .Everybody who's jumping on the Bionic is doing it without really having much to compare it with. .2 more months boys, ,WE CAN DO IT, , ,YES WE CAN
 
I happen to semi-know troll killer, and you will all be appalled to know that he has an apple wallpaper on his Bionic.

So, regardless, he has crap for brains.

:p

Lol

So true...look on the bionic screenshots thread, its there. Although my screen shot app sucks and made it grainy.
 
Galaxy S II Mali-400 GPU boasts fastest graphics on the market | Android and Me

How does the mali-400 GPU compare to what we can expect on Prime???

The Mali-400 of the Exynos processor is probably a good 1.5x to 2x faster than the SGX540 expected in the Prime.

I'm really hoping the Prime doesn't stick with the SGX540. The Nexus S is already pushing it about as far as it will go, in terms of graphics performance. Yes, the CPU of the TI 4460 will be considerably faster than the Nexus S's Hummingbird, but that means very little when it comes to things like gaming and a lot of HD video playback.

Honestly, if the Nexus Prime really does end up with the SGX540, I'll probably be passing it up (coming from the Nexus S). I'd still consider the upgrade though, after seeing how it truly performs, real world.
 
I'm digging in for the long haul. I just ordered another two pack of Steinheil Crystal screen protectors for my OGD. She is a worn looking war horse with a mint condition glass. I don't use a case and carry it in my pocket so the Steinheil Crystal's have served well.
 
The Mali-400 of the Exynos processor is probably a good 1.5x to 2x faster than the SGX540 expected in the Prime.

I'm really hoping the Prime doesn't stick with the SGX540. The Nexus S is already pushing it about as far as it will go, in terms of graphics performance. Yes, the CPU of the TI 4460 will be considerably faster than the Nexus S's Hummingbird, but that means very little when it comes to things like gaming and a lot of HD video playback.

Honestly, if the Nexus Prime really does end up with the SGX540, I'll probably be passing it up (coming from the Nexus S). I'd still consider the upgrade though, after seeing how it truly performs, real world.

Exynos is still very potent smartphone AP for sure. But keep in mind that its graphic score is also helped by WVGA resolution of SGS2.

You shouldn't go by just that single chart quoted in androidandme. If you look at the original benchmark article in anandtech linked several posts above, overall SGX540 in OMAP 4430 (Optimus 3D) performs slightly lower or roughly on par with Exynos in SGS2. And OMAP 4460 has 500Mhz higher CPU clock speed than 4430 and 80Mhz higher GPU clock than 4430 though they have the same GPU. So it should be considerably faster than OMAP4430, dual Snapdragon S3 with Adreno 220.

Of course, it will have burden of moving more pixels in HD screen, but so are the other phones like vigor. All in all, I think Prime will very competitive in graphic performance.
 
I tell you something: This device is getting old as you watch it. It was really high-end four months ago, when first rumors appeared. But now, there are to many handsets going to have announcments like e.g Vigor and so on. If they're contemplating soo long about this phone and it's chipment date this is going to have no sense.

They should show it now, than maybe some indecided users would buy nexus, and will not wait for iphone. But when the iphone launches - everybody will buy iphone and won't be wondering about next nexus! It's a huge strategic mistake, and if it is going to be born in november - believe me - nobody who likes iphone will decide to buy nexus.

EDIT: NOW IS THE PRIME TIME.
 
I tell you something: This device is getting old as you watch it.

Yep. Unfortunately, if you constantly research upcoming phones, like we do, anything that releases will pale in comparison (at least in some specs) to what will come in a few months. Prime will be no different. When it finally does release, we'll have solid evidence of an even better screen, processor, etc. coming down the pipeline. But this always happens.

It was really high-end four months ago, when first rumors appeared. But now, there are to many handsets going to have announcments like e.g Vigor and so on. If they're contemplating soo long about this phone and it's chipment date this is going to have no sense.

Unfortunately, it's not the manufacturer's fault that all of these rumors are coming out about the Prime or Vigor. They're simply making a phone, testing it, making deals with Verizon, etc. All along the way, people that are working for them are sprinkling crumbs along the way to either help us make a good choice, or to get themselves the attention they don't get at home. Either way, we salivate and have chest pains and grind our teeth. The phones will ship when they ship.

The only instance that I can see it being the manufacturer's fault is Motorola with the Bionic, because they paraded it in our faces in January, promised a Q2 release, and then went silent and broke their promise. And now they have a garbage phone that had no chance to live up to the hype, given its crappy screen and a major 3G/4G bug that was a known issue upon release; they were prepared from drop day to tell customers that a fix was coming in November.

They should show it now, than maybe some indecided users would buy nexus, and will not wait for iphone. But when the iphone launches - everybody will buy iphone and won't be wondering about next nexus! It's a huge strategic mistake, and if it is going to be born in november - believe me - nobody who likes iphone will decide to buy nexus.

EDIT: NOW IS THE PRIME TIME.

HTC might try to stave off iPhone competition by making a major announcement in 1 week, during which they're expected to announce the Bliss for the ladies and the Vigor (Tbolt 2) for the geeks.

However, anybody who likes the iPhone will get an iPhone, simple as that. Seriously. I have several friends, my wife included, who think the iPhone is the best thing since sliced bread, and you cannot get them to budge. I point out bigger screen, nicer form factor (on some phones; not the brick Droid), 4G, and they're like "Nope, we'll wait til Apple decides to get 4G and bigger screen." They tell me I'm stupid because I open up my phone to viruses, it lags, it reboots, it freezes, the apps suck in comparison to the polished App Store products, the Retina Display is way better, the touch response is better, etc. All of these things are true, of course, but I don't budge either.

Anyone who wants a quality, long-haul phone will do some research, and if they do that, they'll know that a Prime or a Vigor will blow the iPhone out of the water. If they don't care, they'll get the iPhone. Apple has the lion's share on apathetic and ignorant phone users.
 
I tell you something: This device is getting old as you watch it. It was really high-end four months ago, when first rumors appeared. But now, there are to many handsets going to have announcments like e.g Vigor and so on. If they're contemplating soo long about this phone and it's chipment date this is going to have no sense.

They should show it now, than maybe some indecided users would buy nexus, and will not wait for iphone. But when the iphone launches - everybody will buy iphone and won't be wondering about next nexus! It's a huge strategic mistake, and if it is going to be born in november - believe me - nobody who likes iphone will decide to buy nexus.

EDIT: NOW IS THE PRIME TIME.

We don't have any official specs yet so this is a premature assesment. I will agree with it if it ships with the same components as the SGSII but until then I will reserve judgement.

In regards to it competing against the iPhone, yes it will lose some sales if the iPhone beats it to market but that's the way it goes. They are well aware of it and if they decide to delay the launch slightly to let the iPhone hype die somewhat then that's their choice. Also the iPhone has a built in customer base. They are buying the new iPhone no matter what Android device releases. They want nothing else. Telling them the xyz phone has better specs will be met with "really? Wow thats cool but I want an iPhone"
 
Telling them the xyz phone has better specs will be met with "really? Wow thats cool but I want an iPhone"
However, anybody who likes the iPhone will get an iPhone, simple as that.
I know what you mean, My Mother and one of my best friends are iPhone users and when we talk about phones, its about the iPhone. Its amazingly as if no other kind of phone but previous versions of the iPhone exist.

The thing is they are not Techno minded at all handing me the thing asking to see if I can get it to do this or do that! When I try to demonstrate how much easier or better it is done on mine its like speaking to a brick wall.

One of thing I see is they get navigation with no street names voice and have to pay extra for it. So they just fork it on over! That and all the hoops they have to jump through to configure the thing is yuck.

I wave it in front of their face and they do not even blink!

Heh! I laugh and scoff as I hand it back and say, "nice phone".
 
Yep. Unfortunately, if you constantly research upcoming phones, like we do, anything that releases will pale in comparison (at least in some specs) to what will come in a few months. Prime will be no different. When it finally does release, we'll have solid evidence of an even better screen, processor, etc. coming down the pipeline. But this always happens.



Unfortunately, it's not the manufacturer's fault that all of these rumors are coming out about the Prime or Vigor. They're simply making a phone, testing it, making deals with Verizon, etc. All along the way, people that are working for them are sprinkling crumbs along the way to either help us make a good choice, or to get themselves the attention they don't get at home. Either way, we salivate and have chest pains and grind our teeth. The phones will ship when they ship.

The only instance that I can see it being the manufacturer's fault is Motorola with the Bionic, because they paraded it in our faces in January, promised a Q2 release, and then went silent and broke their promise. And now they have a garbage phone that had no chance to live up to the hype, given its crappy screen and a major 3G/4G bug that was a known issue upon release; they were prepared from drop day to tell customers that a fix was coming in November.



HTC might try to stave off iPhone competition by making a major announcement in 1 week, during which they're expected to announce the Bliss for the ladies and the Vigor (Tbolt 2) for the geeks.

However, anybody who likes the iPhone will get an iPhone, simple as that. Seriously. I have several friends, my wife included, who think the iPhone is the best thing since sliced bread, and you cannot get them to budge. I point out bigger screen, nicer form factor (on some phones; not the brick Droid), 4G, and they're like "Nope, we'll wait til Apple decides to get 4G and bigger screen." They tell me I'm stupid because I open up my phone to viruses, it lags, it reboots, it freezes, the apps suck in comparison to the polished App Store products, the Retina Display is way better, the touch response is better, etc. All of these things are true, of course, but I don't budge either.

Anyone who wants a quality, long-haul phone will do some research, and if they do that, they'll know that a Prime or a Vigor will blow the iPhone out of the water. If they don't care, they'll get the iPhone. Apple has the lion's share on apathetic and ignorant phone users.

Now we're talking! ;-)
 
Seems the info from our forums is starting to make its way into blogs.

HTC Vigor to be branded as the ThunderBolt 2, Samsung DROID Prime to replace Charge? | PhoneDog

I wonder how many of these blogs/articles are circular. Person A writes something. Person B paraphrases A. Person C paraphrases B. Person A write new article with the added speculation of persons B and C. lol

Reminds me of the following Joke:

It was autumn, and the Indians on the remote reservation asked their
new Chief if the winter was going to be cold or mild.

Since he was an Indian Chief in a modern society, he had never been
taught the old secrets, and when he looked at the sky, he couldn't tell
what the weather was going to be.

Nevertheless, to be on the safe side, he replied to his tribe that the winter was indeed going to be cold and that the members of the village should collect wood to be prepared. But also being a practical leader, after several days he got an idea. He went to the phone booth, called the National Weather Service and asked, "Is the coming winter going to be cold?"

"It looks like this winter is going to be quite cold indeed," the
Meteorologist at the weather service responded.

So the Chief went back to his people and told them to collect even more wood in order to be prepared.

One week later he called the National Weather Service again. "Is it going to be to be a very cold winter."

The Chief again went back to his people and ordered them to collect every scrap of wood they could find.

Two weeks later he called the National Weather Service again. "Are you
absolutely sure that the winter is going to be very cold?"

"Absolutely," the man replied. "It looks like it's going to be one of
the coldest winters ever."

"How can you be so sure?" the Chief asked.

The weatherman replied, "The Indians are collecting firewood like crazy."
 

Bliss is for girls.

I don't know who Runnymede's for. Massive screen but only single core, WVGA? That's weird. That's like a Buick with Ferrari wheels. Who cares.

I just hope those two phones aren't the only announcements next week. Hoping for some Vigor info, even though I most likely won't get it and will continue waiting for Prime.
 
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