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***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

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SpeakerBox said:
If not on 4.0, I'm sure it'll be in the next overhaul update which would be a sweet feature to add later but would be even better if it had it on launch. I'm excited to see what comes of ICS and the features they're keeping quiet about. This is very exciting and I can't wait to see what comes of it all.:D
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The nexus prime is supposed to have a FaceLock.apk in its system apps list. Which is why its being rumored.
 
dmiller2007 said:
The nexus prime is supposed to have a FaceLock.apk in its system apps list. Which is why its being rumored.
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Would be sweet but the last thing I'm gonna do is put hopes on apps! lol I'd love to be completely surprised when I power it up and not be like "man, I thought it was supposed to have this and that" etc. So I'm just hoping to make calls, text, and email and do it on a very cool and smooth operating system. Everything else is a bonus in my eyes so no real disappointment here.
 
Nashdroid said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_(System_on_Chip)

Not saying Wikipedia is gospel, but read this and look at the last processor on the list and what devices it is currently in.
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It's wrong. While the Exynos chip inside the GSII LTE HD is 1.5ghz, I'm fairly certain that it's not the 4212. The 4212 is 32nm, while the one inside the GS2 LTE HD is 45nm. It's very likely just an overclocked 4210.

However, there is one reason why I suspect that the 4212 COULD (likely won't, but COULD) land in the Nexus Prime. Going down to 32nm is nice for battery savings and for the rumored GPU performance, but it's still at heart the same chip as what's in an existing phone. I don't see this being the key chip for the GS3 next year. Tegra 3 (quad-core) will be out by then, with OMAP and Snapdragon having their quad-core designs our or nearly out. I would suspect that the 4212 is for refreshes only, but the quad-core version will hit the GS3.

The next Nexus would be a great way to debut this die-shrunk SOC, if possible, but then I also thought that the Nexus S would be a great device to debut dual-core, but that ended up being ye olde Hummingbord.
 
h8rsbh8n said:
I've been lurking here since the thread started. Figured i'd finally join in.

Speaking of OG droid sucking, it just went ahead and reset itself!
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My OG has been acting up too. The old war horse is most likely having trouble coping with the software as they get updated they perhaps need more resources than the original program and she is getting weighted down?

I have very few apps and I still need to go in and force close all that I am not using to keep her perky.

Perhaps its just the mileage.
 
Medion said:
It's wrong. While the Exynos chip inside the GSII LTE HD is 1.5ghz, I'm fairly certain that it's not the 4212. The 4212 is 32nm, while the one inside the GS2 LTE HD is 45nm. It's very likely just an overclocked 4210.

However, there is one reason why I suspect that the 4212 COULD (likely won't, but COULD) land in the Nexus Prime. Going down to 32nm is nice for battery savings and for the rumored GPU performance, but it's still at heart the same chip as what's in an existing phone. I don't see this being the key chip for the GS3 next year. Tegra 3 (quad-core) will be out by then, with OMAP and Snapdragon having their quad-core designs our or nearly out. I would suspect that the 4212 is for refreshes only, but the quad-core version will hit the GS3.

The next Nexus would be a great way to debut this die-shrunk SOC, if possible, but then I also thought that the Nexus S would be a great device to debut dual-core, but that ended up being ye olde Hummingbord.
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It's wrong? Fairly certain? Those two statements can't coexist. You don't know, for certain, and neither do I. So, that means that it is still in the realm of possibility. Nothing is certain. Let's not rule anything out just yet when all we can honestly do at this point is speculate.
 
Nashdroid said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_(System_on_Chip)

Not saying Wikipedia is gospel, but read this and look at the last processor on the list and what devices it is currently in.
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Good catch. There are a lot of people/reviewers claiming Galaxy S II LTE HD has the 4212, but Samsung themselves don't explicitly say it. I don't know what to make of this.
Medion said:
It's wrong. While the Exynos chip inside the GSII LTE HD is 1.5ghz, I'm fairly certain that it's not the 4212. The 4212 is 32nm, while the one inside the GS2 LTE HD is 45nm. It's very likely just an overclocked 4210.
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Samsung's product page and brochure (updated just a few weeks ago) both specify 1.0 and 1.2GHz for 4210. 1.5GHz would be a full 25% overclock above spec, and I can't see that happening.

Nashdroid said:
It's wrong? Fairly certain? Those two statements can't coexist. You don't know, for certain, and neither do I. So, that means that it is still in the realm of possibility. Nothing is certain. Let's not rule anything out just yet when all we can honestly do at this point is speculate.
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I'm curious to find out the answer to the mystery!
 
Nashdroid said:
It's wrong? Fairly certain? Those two statements can't coexist. You don't know, for certain, and neither do I. So, that means that it is still in the realm of possibility. Nothing is certain. Let's not rule anything out just yet when all we can honestly do at this point is speculate.
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I apologize, I misspoke, so please allow me to clarify.

The Exynos 4212 SOC is 32nm. The SOC inside the existing Samsung Galaxy SII LTE HD is 45nm. They are not the same SOC. It is likely an overclocked 4210, but it absolutely positively is NOT the 4212.

Again, this doesn't mean that we won't see the 4212 inside the Nexus (although I don't think it will be there). I am merely stating that the 4212 is NOT inside the GS2 LTE HD as that incorrect Wikipedia entry states.
 
I also highly doubt the dual CDMA/GSM capability. The i515 already went through certification and there was no mention of GSM. A few weeks later, the GSM model went through certification.
 
Medion said:
I apologize, I misspoke, so please allow me to clarify.

The Exynos 4212 SOC is 32nm. The SOC inside the existing Samsung Galaxy SII LTE HD is 45nm. They are not the same SOC. It is likely an overclocked 4210, but it absolutely positively is NOT the 4212.

Again, this doesn't mean that we won't see the 4212 inside the Nexus (although I don't think it will be there). I am merely stating that the 4212 is NOT inside the GS2 LTE HD as that incorrect Wikipedia entry states.
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Like bluebiker said above its highly doubtful That a manufacture would overclock a SoC on a consumer device.
 
Cereal Killer,

Have you noticed that Kellex over at Droid-life updated his last article on the Nexus? If not, go check out his update to this article.

Possible “Nexus Prime” Specs Sneak Out This Afternoon, This Isn’t the Galaxy Nexus (Updated) - Droid Life: A Droid Community Blog

Turns out that Kellex isn't certain of anything either anymore. This DEFINITELY makes me lean much stronger towards the GSM Arena specs now. Guys...I think we're going to get something really amazing on Tuesday. I can just feel it.
 
cereal killer said:
We are telling you wrong because of articles like this:


Samsung used its self-run Mobile Solutions Forum to show a slew of new chip and memory technology. The headliner was its Exynos 4212. The dual-core chip is primarily a clock speed boost and jumps from 1.2GHz to 1.5GHz, helped in part by a new 32 nanometer process. While already seen in the Galaxy S II LTE, it's now known to have a new graphics core with 50 percent faster 3D rendering than the earlier chip.

The chip is in test sampling for third party companies in the fall, although Samsung is shipping the Galaxy S II LTE in Canada and South Korea as well as the HD LTE. Future phones like the Nexus Prime and future tablets should also get the processor.
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I am liking this new, positive Cereal Killer :)
 
Namrak said:
Is droid-Life suggesting that there is no Nexus Prime, and instead we will be seeing a galaxy s2 HD LTE? or did I misunderstand
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I'm not sure just exactly WHAT Kellex is suggesting. Honestly, that entire story is so confusing, and with the update he added, it even gets MORE confusing. He talks about "the phone referenced above." Well, there were two phones referenced above. Hmm...very confusing. I'm starting to think that there is SERIOUSLY a confusion campaign going on here. A bunch of conflicting information all to mislead and confuse everyone. Maybe Google was expecting Apple to release the iPhone 5 the other day, and so they prepared a KILLER phone to combat it, only to see Apple announce the 4S, which was a major letdown to many. So, now all of this secrecy was for nothing, but they are going ahead and sticking to their plan and keeping it tight under wraps until Tuesday. Imagine if Apple would have released the iPhone 5 and it was a big jump in specs and screen and everything, and then Google announced the BEAST that GSM Arena reported specs for. Imagine. Google would have still won, and the phone described by GSM Arena's story would be the only Google phone that would have been able to match, or better yet BEST, the iPhone 5. Apple just didn't announce the phone everyone was expecting...yet. So, here we are with a VERY secret phone from Google that was meant to crush an iPhone 5. I see us all sitting very pretty for the foreseeable future now. Tuesday should be a wonderful day. Just my two cents and opinion though.
 
Nashdroid said:
Google would have still won, and the phone described by GSM Arena's story would be the only Google phone that would have been able to match, or better yet BEST, the iPhone 5. Apple just didn't announce the phone everyone was expecting...yet. So, here we are with a VERY secret phone from Google that was meant to crush an iPhone 5. I see us all sitting very pretty for the foreseeable future now. Tuesday should be a wonderful day. Just my two cents and opinion though.
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Yeah I do agree, this is a very solid campaign from Google and Samsung so far. Looks like they are using Apple tactics as others have suggested and are "leaking" multiple specs in order to keep their device under wraps until Tuesday. Who knows maybe they'll pick up another tactic from the apple playbook and one of the sammy or google execs will "accidentally" leave the prime in a bar...:D.
 
Namrak said:
Yeah I do agree, this is a very solid campaign from Google and Samsung so far. Looks like they are using Apple tactics as others have suggested and are "leaking" multiple specs in order to keep their device under wraps until Tuesday. Who knows maybe they'll pick up another tactic from the apple playbook and one of the sammy or google execs will "accidentally" leave the prime in a bar...:D.
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I just hope they don't borrow the latest Apple tactic and release some slightly spec increased piece of crap. ;)
 
Just for the record, we are the largest Nexus Prime thread on the entire internet, to my knowledge. Android Central is second with a distant 1629 posts. The other forums don't come close.

Kudos to everyone here. :D
 
When I read the article at Droid-Life (updated) I got the impression that he was sticking to his guns. And the specs released first were the correct ones. As far as he knows. But said that it would be awesome if it had updated specs matching the LTE HD. Kellex seems like he has a good track record and doesn't like to get behind stories that seem iffy. Things do change sometimes and he may be in touch with someone that has an outdated prime that's just being used to test ICS and is in fact not meant for consumers?
 
Steven58 said:
Just for the record, we are the largest Nexus Prime thread on the entire internet, to my knowledge. Android Central is second with a distant 1629 posts. The other forums don't come close.

Kudos to everyone here. :D
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The threads can only be as good as the mods let them. You, Steven, have been a great mod. Thanks for keeping us on track, letting us speak our minds, and relieving the tension when needed.
 
Namrak said:
The threads can only be as good as the mods let them. You, Steven, have been a great mod. Thanks for keeping us on track, letting us speak our minds, and relieving the tension when needed.
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Aw gorsh... thanks. :D (Steven blushes)
 
Steven58 said:
Just for the record, we are the largest Nexus Prime thread on the entire internet, to my knowledge. Android Central is second with a distant 1629 posts. The other forums don't come close.

Kudos to everyone here. :D
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This means Big Red has their eye on us. :D
 
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