Mubble
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I don't think a massive corporation like Orange is going to take any notice of a handful of people on Facebook. Sorry.
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Orange 2.2 update
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I don't think a massive corporation like Orange is going to take any notice of a handful of people on Facebook. Sorry.
Eris Ed
Android Expert
Thanks for the support
DaddyCee
Android Enthusiast
Didn't it work for Vodafone users after the recent Desire Update debacle and once the press got hold of it?
Conor from Orange said it takes about 4 weeks to adapt upgrades to branded phones after the original release. As HTC realised froyo for Desire on 2 August, 4 weeks will be this weekend. However it is very hard to hide such release in the last week before release as the operators need to get various permissions from Google, htc, etc. Considering that there has been no such news about any permission seeking I doubt if there will be a release this weekend!
Eris Ed
Android Expert
Your friend will have an unbranded phone on an Orange talk plan, not the same as an Orange branded phone.
Vicdude
Android Enthusiast
I see that the wait continues. I'm looking forward to seeing which dummies get spat out of which prams on Monday morning 
I hope I'm wrong but I reckon it's going to be at least another month. Why?
Pretend you are Orange...... there is a huge demand for the Desire, it's one of your best sellers and probably 85% maybe 90% of your buyers are just normal phone users, not nerds, geeks or techno warriors. Just normal.
This means 85 - 90% of your paying customer base are interested in things like the shiney screen, the number 5 infront of the word mega pixel, it makes calls and sends texts and you can play a few games. It also looks good and has a few novelties.
In other words, it's flying off of the shelves as it is.
2.1 is plenty adequate for the majority of customers.
Then there are the dedicated few.... the geek, techie, contingent who account for maybe 20% of one of your income streams. Enough to ensure that technology moves on and the latest "stuff" is available, but hardly enough to feel threatened by and certainly not enough to hurry a firmware update out.
Personally, I'd adopt the attitude of, why risk upsetting 85-90% of the customer base because a few are getting arsey and threatening to leave.
I think that when you look at it like that, slating a service provider because they are a nano second late with a free update, kinda makes you look a bit sad, lonely, bored, selfish, billy no mates, get a life, is it really that important, ungreatfull bellend lol
It'll turn up when it does and when it does, the same percentages will complain about it not working perfectly. Take the folk who already have the update.It's ironic, but maybe the reason it is so buggy, is because they wailed and stomped thier feet and as a result, the service provider released it a tad early.
Personally, I hope Orange have looked at the most common reported bugs (From the other service providers that bowed to pressure) and thought "hang on a minute, let's not put it out there just yet, lets spend a few weeks sorting the bits that don't work out"
Just my thoughts, might be wrong, might wind a few folk up, but a thought none the less
I hope I'm wrong but I reckon it's going to be at least another month. Why?
Pretend you are Orange...... there is a huge demand for the Desire, it's one of your best sellers and probably 85% maybe 90% of your buyers are just normal phone users, not nerds, geeks or techno warriors. Just normal.
This means 85 - 90% of your paying customer base are interested in things like the shiney screen, the number 5 infront of the word mega pixel, it makes calls and sends texts and you can play a few games. It also looks good and has a few novelties.
In other words, it's flying off of the shelves as it is.
2.1 is plenty adequate for the majority of customers.
Then there are the dedicated few.... the geek, techie, contingent who account for maybe 20% of one of your income streams. Enough to ensure that technology moves on and the latest "stuff" is available, but hardly enough to feel threatened by and certainly not enough to hurry a firmware update out.
Personally, I'd adopt the attitude of, why risk upsetting 85-90% of the customer base because a few are getting arsey and threatening to leave.
I think that when you look at it like that, slating a service provider because they are a nano second late with a free update, kinda makes you look a bit sad, lonely, bored, selfish, billy no mates, get a life, is it really that important, ungreatfull bellend lol
It'll turn up when it does and when it does, the same percentages will complain about it not working perfectly. Take the folk who already have the update.It's ironic, but maybe the reason it is so buggy, is because they wailed and stomped thier feet and as a result, the service provider released it a tad early.
Personally, I hope Orange have looked at the most common reported bugs (From the other service providers that bowed to pressure) and thought "hang on a minute, let's not put it out there just yet, lets spend a few weeks sorting the bits that don't work out"
Just my thoughts, might be wrong, might wind a few folk up, but a thought none the less
I see that the wait continues. I'm looking forward to seeing which dummies get spat out of which prams on Monday morning
I hope I'm wrong but I reckon it's going to be at least another month. Why?
Pretend you are Orange...... there is a huge demand for the Desire, it's one of your best sellers and probably 85% maybe 90% of your buyers are just normal phone users, not nerds, geeks or techno warriors. Just normal.
This means 85 - 90% of your paying customer base are interested in things like the shiney screen, the number 5 infront of the word mega pixel, it makes calls and sends texts and you can play a few games. It also looks good and has a few novelties.
In other words, it's flying off of the shelves as it is.
2.1 is plenty adequate for the majority of customers.
Then there are the dedicated few.... the geek, techie, contingent who account for maybe 20% of one of your income streams. Enough to ensure that technology moves on and the latest "stuff" is available, but hardly enough to feel threatened by and certainly not enough to hurry a firmware update out.
Personally, I'd adopt the attitude of, why risk upsetting 85-90% of the customer base because a few are getting arsey and threatening to leave.
I think that when you look at it like that, slating a service provider because they are a nano second late with a free update, kinda makes you look a bit sad, lonely, bored, selfish, billy no mates, get a life, is it really that important, ungreatfull bellend lol
It'll turn up when it does and when it does, the same percentages will complain about it not working perfectly. Take the folk who already have the update.It's ironic, but maybe the reason it is so buggy, is because they wailed and stomped thier feet and as a result, the service provider released it a tad early.
Personally, I hope Orange have looked at the most common reported bugs (From the other service providers that bowed to pressure) and thought "hang on a minute, let's not put it out there just yet, lets spend a few weeks sorting the bits that don't work out"
Just my thoughts, might be wrong, might wind a few folk up, but a thought none the less
I think the true geeks will have already debranded by now, considering its so simple to do.
If Vodafone campaign was success full why not Orange?? We just need more people to sign up. Problem is I think most people who have Desire are not on Orange. There was a significant drop in Upgrade chatter after the Voda update. So it is that either there are not enough of us or not enough who care!
Vicdude
Android Enthusiast
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Indeed, the networks never used to care about getting updates rolled out to phones either, used to take months and months, if you got one at all! I think they're getting wise to it, with the iPhone 4 (OS) update and the Android 2.2 update, the demand has been quite high for speedy updates. I think a similar thing happened with the HTC Hero users wanting the 2.1 update. Then it all kicked off with Vodafone and their bloatware they added in an update, which The Guardian picked up on.
It's all about PR. If a company is known for adding on loads of bloatware then surely they're going to lose subscribers. If this Orange update is still full of their branded stuff and rubbish demo game shortcuts then I'll seriously consider moving networks when my contract is up, to a company that doesn't add all the bloatware.
If this is how Vodafone is going to continue (no bloatware) then it's quite a clever move, word spreads fast online and they'll surely gain subscribers.
For now I just want Orange to hurry up!
M
Member 94720
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Haha! T-Mobile haven't had their update either... I imagine there's quite a lot of people still waiting.
Certainly in the UK.Even if they did start rolling the updates out today, wouldn't it still take a few hours to get to everyone? I'd imagine they would stagger the availability of the update to avoid putting too much strain on the server.
I could be wrong. Either way, patience is key here. As long as there's not too much bloatware, I'm happy to wait.
Vicdude
Android Enthusiast
Why 2 weeks? Specifically? I understand the potential need to reduce strain on servers (If that still happens in 2010
) but on what do you base 2 weeks?Look on the bright side. I know a guy with a T Mobile Desire in the UK that developed a bluetooth fault necessitating him returning the phone. They've told him that due to stock shortages they won't be getting him a replacement until December! So they certainly are selling irrespective of 2.2 being on them or not. I often wonder what percentage of the overall customer base for the Desire even know about FroYo (and bloatware), much less care. We on this type of forum could be just a very small percentage of the user base, in which case Orange have no need to hurry.