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I thought Mrs Clinton did admit that the email issue was a mistake? I'm pretty sure it came up in one of the debates, and she did apologise and said it shouldn't have happened.
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She's only apologized for deleting emails, not what they contained
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I don't understand why this is such an issue.
One of the posts that got deleted included a pretty clear, fair, and understandable explanation of exactly what/why the emails happened, why some have attacked it, and why it's a non-issue. Bottom line: all the incredibly expensive investigations into this have concluded that she did something stupid, not criminal. SHE has admitted it was stupid and apologized. I don't like the woman, but at what point does the conservative machine acknowledge that this has been asked, answered, and move on?
All of it. "Kool-Aid".. The "we need change America for the positive". It's not been positive, as you can see. In fact, we're now in greater distress as a nation than the time of the Gulf War. Hillary wants to further his agendas and it's become frightening to ppl who actually care about losing loved ones
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Hmm. "Kool-aid" is a little short on hard facts as an answer lol
U answered before I finished my edit. [emoji41]Hmm. "Kool-aid" is a little short on hard facts as an answer lol
And my point is that if you can't trust ppl with other stuff.. Why give them more power?!
Plus.. Wikileaks keeps dropping other serious emails & stuff that should already have your attention as what kind of character she is. Do some reading on that and see where you stand afterwards
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You mean like the "Let's make America great again folks" chant we hear a lot?
Just what exactly does that mean, and what's he going to do to implement it?
That's the kind of stuff I'd be wanting to hear from him, rather than raking up pointless negative issues such as deleted emails.
I've been following wikileaks - so far, nothing particularly disturbing has emerged, although there's still time of course.
I personally think Obama has done an admirable job, particularly when taking office during a financial meltdown and being hampered by a Congress that has openly stated - against all constitutional obligations - that it won't work with him on pretty much anything, and has driven the country to crisis in many areas.
We're indeed in trouble, but a lot of it is internally generated (and imo has been intentionally driven to that point by the right to further their own agendas).
(Edited to clean up some errors/autocorrects now I'm back at a computer)
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I spend idle moments looking for (genuinely) fair and balanced commentary (on both sides - I'm just digging through this particular question, as posed above, at the moment). I thought this was a decent assessment - it does indeed come from a liberal author, but he is completely transparent about that, and acknowledges error and problems in her career as well as pushing back against wild claims and accusations.
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-people-say-Hillary-Clinton-is-a-crook
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-people-say-Hillary-Clinton-is-a-crook
you said something about ... kool aid????
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Actually, she apologized for "using" a private email server. I don't recall her ever addressing the content or deletion of anything. Does one agree with the deleted content (if indeed true)? I think that is a matter of opinion which we all are entitled to.
Not in the post you quoted, No. [emoji41]
In the post I DID mention it, it was a metaphorical (NOT Literal) reference to the poison Obama's feeding us with his policies, refugees & Hillary's desire to expand it despite what proof dictates are/will further harm Americans and put us at continually increasing risk
Father Guido
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The 1st Gulf war (Desert Storm) began shortly after Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990. As a nation we were very dependent on foreign oil. Fearing that Saudi Arabia would be next, Bush Sr. (a Republican) created an alliance in 1991 and forced Iraq to withdraw. Many believe that we should have continued until Hussein was removed from power THEN, but the coalition was certainly against that. After all, they still had something in common: Their hatred of Israel. In their eyes, with Iraq now gone from Kuwait, and with US bases now in Saudi Arabia, the mission was "accomplished."
Enter Bill Clinton in 1993. With few exceptions, the US enjoyed 8 years of peace and prosperity. Had he not spent so much energy and time covering up his "transgressions," he could have done even better. The GOP wanted him gone at any and all costs. This "witch hunt" was such a distraction, he couldn't possibly do his job "to the best of his ability." The US was humiliated on numerous occasions for failure to pay attention.
The 2nd Gulf War (Operation Iraqi Freedom) was more of a plan to topple Hussein, than to free the Iraqi people. Oil was again at stake. Bush Jr. (another Republican) misinformed Congress (whether intentional or not) to get his plan approved. HRC was a Senator then and voted for the mission (She now regrets her decision).
In BOTH (Gulf War) cases, it was about OIL, and the HUGE PROFITS of the oil companies. IOW, it was about MONEY.
Along with other activities the US were involved with, Islamic fundamentalists saw this as a threat to their beliefs and they despised the West more than ever. While this didn't CREATE al-Qaeda (but DID eventually create ISIS), it fed the hatred. The consequences? "Radical Islamic Terrorism." While Islam in and of itself is a peaceful religion, there rises a minority that takes certain passages of the Koran and bends them to their cause.
I agree with your opinion of Obama, and I voted for him both times. How he could get ANYTHING accomplished is nothing short of miraculous given the GOP's disdain for him. While I cannot speak for him, I think he is appalled that the "Affordable Care Act" is commonly referred to as Obamacare.
It resembles NOTHING the original intent that "Universal Health Care" was meant to be. Why? The "Insurance Industry" wants a cut/control of everything, and with the politicians in their pocket THEY got what THEY wanted. More money for THEM and LESS (coverage/benefits) for you. Let's put the blame where it belongs: On Congress, which is "owned" by the Insurance Industry. We ended up with with health "Insurance" instead of health "care." The GOP won, and now makes a mockery of what THEY negotiated.
If TRUE universal healthcare (as many countries have) were a reality here, everyone in the US would be "cared for" at a fraction of current costs. The latest EpiPen money grab is but one (recent) example of their greed. It's downright criminal...
My daughter was diagnosed with breast cancer >9 years ago (then age 30). Her mother (my Wife) had it twice, once at age 28 and again at age 30. She has survived, but her sister died from it, so it was apparent this runs in the family. "Dori's" doctor took a "wait and see" approach when she told him of her symptoms. With her family history, one wonders why. I'll tell you why, her "insurance" dictated the use/timing of the tests needed for a proper diagnosis. Once finally confirmed, it was too late. This was a VERY aggressive cancer and it killed her.
If my daughter wasn't deferred care by the Insurance Company controlling her doctor & treatment with their "policies," she may very well be alive today. I blame THEM for her death 8 years ago at the ripe old age of 32. Am I bitter? Absolutely.
Can you honestly expect the GOP to address this for the better? Their idea of the ACA is to simply repeal it. Then what?
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~LOUD APPLAUSE AND CHEERING~
If I have a "hot button", healthcare is it, and I couldn't agree more with every word you write above. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
The ACA is flawed because so many compromises had to be made just to get it passed. I can only hope that future generations will gradually mold it into the comprehensive healthcare it was supposed to be, bringing so-called "great" America up to the standard of every other developed country in the world.
I'm so sorry to hear about your daughter and wife, Guido. This is the kind of story that enrages me - how DARE anybody say that "socialized medicine" a la NHS or Canada is "too bureaucratic" and "lets people die"? CLearly, they haven't had to deal with the bureaucracy of American insurers (just as true pre-ACA - nothing to do with that, but with the culture of FOR PROFIT medicine in the US).
You both have intelligent points and I am actually suffering with the ObamaCare myself. I am a single parent & diabetic with many other issues resulting from that to boot.
My beef?
er Month:- my insulin went from $50 to $280 per bottle, and that didn't start happening until ObamaCare. {Humalog 50/50[NPH] Can anyone see a similarity to Epipen?} The other bottle stays between $100-200.
- test strips keep going up as well, minimum of $100+ per box of 100.. How do ya know how much insulin to take if you're clueless as the the glucose level of your blood?
- medical supplies avg an extra $100
- other health meds are an extra $100.
Health Care treatment? I basically now have none since I am now on disability due to an accident and have to choose between groceries (feeding my kids) or meds to survive & care for them.. EACH MONTH!
My damn copay is slightly higher than my my medical costs. Wtf?! How the "F" am I supposed to have a usable insurance when everything already comes outta my pocket anyways?! Everything went to $h!t in a hand basket with the forced implementation of ObamaCare. Like you said, higher costs & less care.
Oh.. And the people that can't afford any insurance?
- They get fined in their income tax.
So.. Repeal it. Replace it. Make it better. Obama won't and neither will Hillary. None of the 3rd party candidates seem to stand a chance but I refuse to vote for someone who's been lying in politics since before I was in highschool, when in HS, also very much more after.. Oh, and the schools required us to watch the debates and elections so I'm not disgusted with heresay.. I was shocked & appalled at the dirtyness of the Clintons even then but Her corruption is a proven fact. Ignoring that, puts us ALL in peril.
Wait for it... ... .. And BAM!!
http://www.usapoliticstoday.com/thi...ified-from-ever-holding-federal-office-again/
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I can't reply in full right now - I'll get to that later when I'm at a computer and can type properly - but what was your health insurance situation before the ACA?
Either full medical or $50/mo copay for all meds & supplies included. I had gotten full medical because as a single parent, I need to SURVIVE to care for my children.. Getting that was difficult but doable. Now it's the exact opposite, ridiculous expensive all around & impossible to get the right help. Yes, I worked too. Construction.
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Rarely. But normally had an HMO from work when the company had it ($50 copay) ObamaCare made it jump to $350+/mo. Now I'm on a medicaid (became medically disabled this yr from an accident) which now has a ridiculous sharecost (more than double the previous $350/mo) that actually exceeds the cash cost of my my Rx's, so wtf is the point of the share cost?! Now I can't afford to even pay to see a PCP/labs & forced to go to an ER for scripts. Where's the sense in the ACA? There isn't, it destroyed what little was available to begin with. The problem here is Hillary wanting to keep it. Bad ideas, bad policies, bad deal all around for too many ppl to call it an "accomplishment" of any sort
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So the real issue for you is that you no longer have employer coverage, not that the ACA is bad (it has major problems, I'm the first to agree, but it's philosophically at least a step in the right direction)
My husband and I are self-employed, and have always had to pay for our own insurance. ACA coverage costs about the same as we were paying before it was brought in EXCEPT hat now there are no pre-existing condition exclusions, and there are basic annual/checkup visits included. This is an improvement over what we had before those requirements were brought in (although our deductible has gone up, so yin/yan).
I'm sorry for people like yourself who have seen costs go up. I only wish there'd been a way to insist on single-payer, universal healthcare... like EVERY OTHER DEVELOPED COUNTRY. The problem is not that the ACA went too far, but that it didn't go nearly far enough.
And if you really want to see health coverage improve? Don't vote conservative. Privatised, for-profit healthcare is a disaster for anybody who isn't covered with a policy that comes subsidized via an employer.
My husband and I are self-employed, and have always had to pay for our own insurance. ACA coverage costs about the same as we were paying before it was brought in EXCEPT hat now there are no pre-existing condition exclusions, and there are basic annual/checkup visits included. This is an improvement over what we had before those requirements were brought in (although our deductible has gone up, so yin/yan).
I'm sorry for people like yourself who have seen costs go up. I only wish there'd been a way to insist on single-payer, universal healthcare... like EVERY OTHER DEVELOPED COUNTRY. The problem is not that the ACA went too far, but that it didn't go nearly far enough.
And if you really want to see health coverage improve? Don't vote conservative. Privatised, for-profit healthcare is a disaster for anybody who isn't covered with a policy that comes subsidized via an employer.
Here's my stress:
Do I wanna live to see my 5 & 6 yr old kids grow up without being gangraped and/or beheaded by hateful Muslim immigrants? Yes, so I won't vote Democrat. I was gonna register Democratic but realized the world of hurt we're in with Hillary there.
The medical part is a severe misstep on our road thru life and I'm wondering if it's some kind of F-U method to phase out the medically needy..?? None of it makes sense and our next POTUS needs to figure it out better and SOON or there'll many more problems to come.
Do I wanna live to see my 5 & 6 yr old kids grow up without being gangraped and/or beheaded by hateful Muslim immigrants? Yes, so I won't vote Democrat. I was gonna register Democratic but realized the world of hurt we're in with Hillary there.
The medical part is a severe misstep on our road thru life and I'm wondering if it's some kind of F-U method to phase out the medically needy..?? None of it makes sense and our next POTUS needs to figure it out better and SOON or there'll many more problems to come.
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