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Root [ROM] Sleipnir v2.4.0.5 - 10/24/13 - VM & SPRINT

Also, depending on the outcome of the poll, I may even go a third route: doing some of both. For example, I could remove Winamp and Dolphin, and keep the other essentials, and expand the OP's Recommended Apps section. That way, I could cover both newcomers and experienced users by providing links to universally top rated apps, and including some up to date essentials/crucial apps as well. Like Titanium Backup and JuiceDefender.
 
Also, depending on the outcome of the poll, I may even go a third route: doing some of both. For example, I could remove Winamp and Dolphin, and keep the other essentials, and expand the OP's Recommended Apps section. That way, I could cover both newcomers and experienced users by providing links to universally top rated apps, and including some up to date essentials/crucial apps as well. Like Titanium Backup and JuiceDefender.

I think that would be the winner. Best of both worlds.
 
If I can put my 2 cents in I would say TOTALLY DEBLOATED would be BEST . That way Artine can use his time making the rom more efficient . This would take a load off him . He could stop worrying about what apps people want preinstalled and focus on the rom itself . That's kind of asking for too much and it's kinda lazy of us to ask for this . Besides all the apps that would be included in the rom would have to be updated within weeks anyway making the included ones obsolete . The ideal rom to me would be like a windows or a Linux install CD . Just the OS and nothing else . Peace people .
:)
 
If I can put my 2 cents in I would say TOTALLY DEBLOATED would be BEST . That way Artine can use his time making the rom more efficient . This would take a load off him . He could stop worrying about what apps people want preinstalled and focus on the rom itself . That's kind of asking for too much and it's kinda lazy of us to ask for this . Besides all the apps that would be included in the rom would have to be updated within weeks anyway making the included ones obsolete . The ideal rom to me would be like a windows or a Linux install CD . Just the OS and nothing else . Peace people .
:)

That's the goal. So that anyone can do anything on top of it, have exactly what they want and nothing they don't - it's intended to be as barebones as possible, and I think I'll incorporate that route. Having some apps preinstalled because some people use them and others don't, puts a burden on the people who don't. Not having any of the extras installed means that everyone is free to build on top of what's there, and have exactly what they want and nothing else. Also, having only the basics means that they don't have anything they won't need/want, and anything they do want can be easily installed through the Play Store.
 
In addition. When we update the rom, our user apps are retained. So a completely bare rom would be nice. If you want anything to roll over we just have to make them user apps. Right now I have to remove a bunch of apps every time I update, I feel it is the same for a bunch of us.
 
In addition. When we update the rom, our user apps are retained. So a completely bare rom would be nice. If you want anything to roll over we just have to make them user apps. Right now I have to remove a bunch of apps every time I update, I feel it is the same for a bunch of us.

Barebones seems to be the simplest method, and easiest, for all of us. I'll go the route of retaining compatibility, but removing the extras. But any opinions on whether or not to add something like a simple flashlight app, and a stopwatch? Things that should have been included from the start, but weren't?
 
Does Handcent work with this? I can't seem to get the notification icon to come up on this. But works fine for Go SMS and default messaging
 
Does Handcent work with this? I can't seem to get the notification icon to come up on this. But works fine for Go SMS and default messaging

Indeed they do. Couldn't speak for Handcent though, as I don't use it, but I think someone else is using it just fine.
 
I've brought that up before, I had that idea a while ago and was planning on going ahead with it in the near future. As opposed to Dolphin or Titanium Backup, what do you use instead (since I keep those updated and both have been touted numerous times to be the best at what they do)? Also, I really do recommend JuiceDefender because, especially with the settings I have listed, it will add several hours to your battery life without interfering with anything. Also, from personal experience, my opinion is that Root Uninstaller, after having used it and Titanium Backup both, is rather lacking in quality by comparison (and I trust Titanium Backup more). Also, Titanium Backup does uninstalls on par if not better, from what I have experienced. But that's just my opinion. As far as K-9 is concerned, it's generally considered to be the better alternative to the stock Email app, and this ROM is all about improvements - but I can always throw that into a flashable .zip as well. Also, I just checked three different ways and K-9 shows up just fine (App Drawer, browsing to /system/app, and Titanium Backup), so I don't know how it isn't showing up for you. However, I do all have links to the Google Play pages already up in the main post.

In any case, I do plan on having the apps be a flashable .zip instead. And I really appreciate the feedback, thank you! :)


I guess I'll try Titanium Backup, I was thinking it was for backups only... lol

As to a browser, I use Firefox Beta, it seems to be really fast and since I use the Desktop version, I can sync my info really easily.

I just tried Wifi For Root Users, but my tablet still can't see my phone. I left the default settings, is there anything I should change?
 
I agree with the flashlight and stopwatch app idea. I use both and would not mind the inclusion of either.

I don't use a stopwatch, but I do use a timer, Simple Kitchen Timer is the easiest-to-use one that I've found, it's one of my first installs.

As to a flashlight, TeslaLED is my preferred one, simple to use but has extra options for those who want them. In fact, I believe that either Tagged or Harmonia is where I first learned about it.

One suggestion: for those on a limited-minutes plan (like all three of us in this household), Minutes Checker is really useful, you might think about including at least a link to it in the first post.

Again, thanks for a great ROM, and please keep up the good work!
 
I don't use a stopwatch, but I do use a timer, Simple Kitchen Timer is the easiest-to-use one that I've found, it's one of my first installs.

As to a flashlight, TeslaLED is my preferred one, simple to use but has extra options for those who want them. In fact, I believe that either Tagged or Harmonia is where I first learned about it.

One suggestion: for those on a limited-minutes plan (like all three of us in this household), Minutes Checker is really useful, you might think about including at least a link to it in the first post.

Again, thanks for a great ROM, and please keep up the good work!

Harmonia is where I first learned of Tesla LED as well :) I will look into the other two, as I've found that Flashlight + LED seems to be a better app than Tesla (always could be just my opinion). But thank you :)
 
Yea, one time I had downloaded and put the ROM on my phone before school but was gonna wait until later to flash it. So in the middle of a class I decided to do that and forgot about the sound. It was kinda embarrassing but the teacher didn't care.

they are so damn grateful you didn't have a gun... cellphone activity is probably welcomed now.
 
If I can put my 2 cents in I would say TOTALLY DEBLOATED would be BEST . That way Artine can use his time making the rom more efficient . This would take a load off him . He could stop worrying about what apps people want preinstalled and focus on the rom itself . That's kind of asking for too much and it's kinda lazy of us to ask for this . Besides all the apps that would be included in the rom would have to be updated within weeks anyway making the included ones obsolete . The ideal rom to me would be like a windows or a Linux install CD . Just the OS and nothing else . Peace people .
:)

agreed. running in circles for individual preferences is kind of ridiculous at times, I'm sure.
 
Artine:
i don't know if this is even feasible for a ROM of this proportion, but i was thinking about integrating a feature from CM10. being able to individually swipe the notifications instead of clearing out the whole cache. there are many times I need a reminder & having this feature (on my Toshiba THRiVe running cm10 -u4) has saved my butt on numerous occasions.

ideas?
 
Artine:
i don't know if this is even feasible for a ROM of this proportion, but i was thinking about integrating a feature from CM10. being able to individually swipe the notifications instead of clearing out the whole cache. there are many times I need a reminder & having this feature (on my Toshiba THRiVe running cm10 -u4) has saved my butt on numerous occasions.

ideas?

Is something like this what you're talking about? If so, that guide is for Gingerbread (which is good), and I'd be more than likely able to implement it.

I don't use a stopwatch, but I do use a timer, Simple Kitchen Timer is the easiest-to-use one that I've found, it's one of my first installs.

As to a flashlight, TeslaLED is my preferred one, simple to use but has extra options for those who want them. In fact, I believe that either Tagged or Harmonia is where I first learned about it.

One suggestion: for those on a limited-minutes plan (like all three of us in this household), Minutes Checker is really useful, you might think about including at least a link to it in the first post.

Again, thanks for a great ROM, and please keep up the good work!

Also, for the StopWatch I was going to use this. It has both a simple stopwatch with laps, as well as a simple timer too. And for the flashlight I was planning on using this in place of Tesla LED (I've used both). Thoughts?

Also, the minutes checker is a great idea :)
 
Is something like this what you're talking about? If so, that guide is for Gingerbread (which is good), and I'd be more than likely able to implement it.



Also, for the StopWatch I was going to use this. It has both a simple stopwatch with laps, as well as a simple timer too. And for the flashlight I was planning on using this in place of Tesla LED (I've used both). Thoughts?

Also, the minutes checker is a great idea :)

i bleeve that's the ticket, good sir!
 
Also, for the StopWatch I was going to use this. It has both a simple stopwatch with laps, as well as a simple timer too. And for the flashlight I was planning on using this in place of Tesla LED (I've used both). Thoughts?

Also, the minutes checker is a great idea :)


I found it looking for a Virgin Mobile app one day, that would tell me exactly what that one does. lol

I like Tiny Flashlight, now that I've tried it, so I took off TeslaLED. Thanks for the suggestion.
 
I put your ringtones on my goofball girlfriend's Spectrum and she's been enjoying them all night. So thanks...I think :-D
 
Alright, here's a breakdown of the upcoming v2.3.7:

It's built off of the latest Tagged build (which Hashtag released today), dalvik-cache is working on being symlinked to /cache to free up /data space (and therefore user app space), since /cache has a capacity of 228M, and I'm only using 4M (I expect that for many others, it's also quite low) which is about 1.7% of the total. Dalvik cache is now recursively wiped via the installer in the Housekeeping phase, so you no longer need to manually wipe the dalvik cache. Hosts file has been updated. Some system apps were updated. Half of the missing gapps have been reintegrated and updated to today, wherever updates were needed. I've revised the integrated apps, what follow are the only extra apps post-debloat that are included (they are no longer being updated, or the updates are months apart and haven't had updates for a while): JuiceDefender (no brainer), StopWatch w/ Timer, Flashlight + LED, Adobe Flash Player (flash content still lives, this is for freedom through compatibility), and Total Commander (also kind of a no brainer, for me at least - dual windows, highly customizable, root capable, lightweight, and touted highly by Android Police).

Titanium Backup and the others that were included before, were updated on a frequent basis and thus would make the versions included in the ROM obsolete pretty quickly after each new build would be released (also it saves time of having to update them for you and for me, thus reducing headaches on both sides). The included apps are user apps, not system, and are therefore very easily uninstalled (also, being deodexed, this makes uninstall even easier). The apps included in /system are all the bare essentials/stock, such as Calculator and Calendar. The OP will be revised shortly with a full list of the apps that I recommend that one install based on ratings from excellent sources (such as Android Police) as being the top apps in their fields, but I will not include these because you may have personal favourites that you like better or may even perform better. To each their own.

The goal of Sleipnir was and is to be how the phone should have been when it came out of the box. This is the goal that I am sticking to - maximum compatibility, freedom to have none of what you don't want (and not having to jump through hoops to remove /system apps, because /system has been completely debloated while retaining gapps). Camera is not gone, Calculator is not gone, etc., but Wallet is, Smart Device Manager is, etc.

This, I feel, not only achieves the goal, but also makes for the least headaches for everyone, and allows everyone true freedom to do what they want, have what they want, and not have to deal with what they don't want (or as little as possible). This will be further revised once I get Aroma up to replace the old installer, to allow the greatest freedom possible.

In the future, I will more than likely implement the aforementioned (in posts above this one) Swipe Notifications from CM, and the search button remap to camera feature should work correctly now.

This is all just a heads up of what's coming. I'll make another post when the build is up, as I'm in the testing stages now.

EDIT: Test 1 resulted in booting up just fine, then crashing 15 seconds later into a bootloop. Good news is this: if anyone remembers how I mentioned that the status bar shouldn't have been black, but something different, and I had no idea why it was black? Turns out, that on v2.3.7, it's the way it should have always been. :)
 
@Artine,
You've come a really long way man, great work! You may be delving into unofficial cyanogenmod ports before too long. ;) do you think after all this that maybe you have more of a better understanding as to how a CM ROM would be put together?
 
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