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bupolo

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After tons of time and energy rooting and getting no benefit other than more space on my phone, everything, and I mean everything, else being worse on the phone, I really wish I'd never done this in the first place. So very, very, very frustrating. I use to really like this phone
 
I hate you have had so much trouble, but your experience is hardly typical.

what exactly is going on, maybe we can get you straight yet. :)
 
this is indeed odd... what issues are you experiencing? Your phone should be faster, more responsive and have a HELL of a better battery life not to mention the ability to remove the stupid a$$ bloatware that sprint thinks that evo users cant live without... talk to us goose!! :(
 
I'm currently using CM7 and was using Tiamat 3.3.8. 3.3.7 sucked for my phone (battery died in about half a day with minimal use).

3.3.8 was less responsive (I sometimes have to touch the screen twice so it understand I'm selecting something), everything lags, like loading apps and opening text messages. Doesn't connect to bluetooth easily, the GPS jumps all over the place, and Navigation lags. If I try to have navigation on and talk on the phone at the same time, I've got about 10 minutes, then the phone will FC.

The latest? The Recovery mysteriously switched back to some other type of recovery, so when I reinstalled Amon Ra, I can't do anything except load my one and only nandroid from 2 months ago, else it just goes into a bootloader loop (I try to restart and it send me to the bootloader everytime, can't get it to go to the phone).

The phone just sucks on CM7, and it wasn't much better on Mik3.0. I don't have the time to spend reinstalling everything every 3 days to try to find the match that works, I just want my phone to work the way it used to.
 
And they were not bad downloads. I downloaded 3.3.8 and 4.0.6 twice trying to make sure it wasn't the download.

Trying to figure out how to send the phone back to its original state now, I've completely had enough with this rooting bullshit.
 
that is one weird set of issues man... as far as the nav goes, id stick to sense based roms to avoid having to tinker with the gps fix thats out there (which totally works btw) as to avoid having to spend too much time on it. The word on the street is that mik3.0 roms are super smooth, but im a cm7 guy. Im betting that its your caches that are jacked up and need to be mega wiped. If you go into recovery and do a factory reset(aw hell, do it twice for good measure) then install the rom again, im betting that itll instantly start working better. But the world of root and custom roms does require a it of hands on man. Thats not to say that you need to spend hours a day trolling the forum looking stuff up and all that, but once you start messing around with it and get double the battery life (as i did) then youll likely have an entirely different view on the subject. Anyways, if youre not at all interested in getting your hands dirty (digitally at least) id flash something from miks 3.0 lineup and a custom kernel or something along those lines after having done a factory reset and see where youre at then. Good luck man, and let us know if you have any other questions or need some walkthru type of help.
 
I don't know how to unroot, I would have to read the guide like you would.

i can't understand why your phone is having so much trouble.

My suspicion is that your phone isn't getting along with the kernels.

I have run mikg3.0 pretty much nonstop since it came out and only probs i have had were with custom kernels.

Think we need to take a breath, get this latest fixed, then get you on Mikg3.o on the stock kernel.

edit: there he is! caches, yes. step by step...
 
and to go along with dustwun, it is VERY likely that your phone isnt too keen on the kernel selection. Each evo reacts differently to a kernel. I run cm7 and its flippin awesome. I put the first tiamat kernel released on it, it sucked butt. I put a different tiamat kernel on it, its awesome again. So, anyone telling you which kernel to run as an absolute best combo for every phone is leading you down the wrong path. We can tall you what our experiences are, and you can try em out, but theres no golden combo for every cm7/tiamat user out there. These things are like women holmes, some like beer and a football game, and her twin sister likes wine and cheese... Strange analogy, i know, but hopefully gets the point across :D

here, try this and try it with the stock kernel first
 
First I see a very grave misconception here. I have seen this misconception quite a bit and that is "Rooting has destroyed my________" you can fill in the blank. I will try to explain this best I can Maybe Capt. will show up and further educate people on what exactely root is.

Ok The Jist of it:
Rooting your phone is really just a fancy way of saying "I've turned Securitys OFF" This means that you have told the hardware to turn off the security that would normally prevent you from being able to change the "Boot, System" Partitions. Unlocking Nand allows you to flash to said system. (hope I got this the right way) Nand is where you can backup, flash, and restore. Having the Partitions Securites off does nothing to your phones ROM or Kernel or Radio's

If your having Problems then they are 1. Rom related or 2. Kernel related problems. These can be caused by several different factors.
1. Improper Wipe of the System before Flashing the ROM. - This is on of the most common problems that I see with Systems. The person did not properly wipe. Sometimes its not the persons fault they have downloaded and flashed Clockwork Mod recovery. This recovery is Known for improper wipes. That is Why Amon RA is Highly Recomended here. Amon Ra 2.3 it just works.
2.Not Properly wiping cach/dalvic before flashing a new Kernel.
3. Bad downloads
4. Bad Transfers (From Computer to Phone)
5. Cause sometimes in life shit happens

The only other thing that will cause problems is an actual hardware failure which again has nothing to do with rooting the phone.

If a Rom is not working as expected first thing one should do is ASK
As Youdoofus has stated Rooting means getting your hands dirty. If you do not wish to go through the hassel then AOSP is not really for you. You are better off with a Sense ROM. MIKG seems to be the prefered. However even with Sense ROMs sometimes you have to get your hands dirty. I hope I was able to solve some confusion as to common misconceptions and basic trouble shooting.

Our Resident RXpert has also written a very useful trouble shooting guide. You can Link to it from my sig and can also link to it from the Rooting Guide. Also In my Sig (Not for 2.18)

If one has problems with something they should ask for help. I am more than confident that anyproblem short of the bootloop of death can be fixed. I'm not so sure that the "Bootloop of Death" can't be fixed however we have yet to find a way and it has only affected a small amount of users.
 
In response to the OP. Never fear. I have the solution to all that ails you. You can thank me later. Here is a post I made in another thread. Read, read, read. This will fix everything you're having trouble with. I guarantee it.

VERY IMPORTANT - Kernels take time to settle. You will not see the effects of a custom kernel on your battery life for at least two days.

Here is how to solve all your problems.

1) and this is a 100% must. Get Amon RA 2.3. Link is in my signature. If you're messing around with Clockwork you're asking for trouble. Amon RA 2.3 works every time, 100% of the time. It is a flawless recovery and you should be running it on your Evo if you aren't already.

1a) Make sure you're not using ROM Manager and you do all the below steps while in recovery. ROM Manager has been proven to be buggy. Stay away.

2) Every time you flash a rom, you need to wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache and wipe dalvik cache. One time only. Like I said, with Amon RA, it works the first time. No need to wipe anything multiple times.

3) For good measure, download Calkulin's format all zip file and flash this too
http://db.tt/emsg8Z8P

4) Now you're ready to flash a rom. Did you check the md5 to ensure it's a good download? If not, be sure to do that as well.

5) Now flash your rom, flash your gapps and flash your kernel (if you want...the kernel is optional)

6) Reboot. Restoring anything with Titanium? Only restore user apps (green colored text). Do NOT restore any system data (red colored text).

This should solve all of your problems. And yes, I suggest Deck 1.3d over any build of CM7. It's flawless, everything works. Yes, Deck 1.3d is technically a beta, but ask anyone over in the XDA thread (or me) and we are all pretty much in agreement that it's superior to the "stable" build. Trust me on this one. The link for that is in my sig too, just scroll down to the download links and you should be able to find it in there. If you have any trouble, I can shoot you the direct link.
 
I would bet $1,000 fake dollars that the OP is using clockworkmod. Ugh. Amon RA is the only recovery an Evo owner needs. 2.3 is my version of choice. Here is the link if you can't see my signature.

Here is the link to the thread on XDA
[Recovery] [09-Feb-2011] RA-supersonic-v2.3 - xda-developers

Download the PC36IMG.zip file and put it in your sd root. That means to put it in the top level of your SD, so don't put it in any folders. Then turn off your phone. Once it's powered down, hold vol-down and power until the white screen comes on. When it asks if you want to update, select yes. It will install, then ask if you want to reboot. Select no. Then go into recovery like you normally would.
 
Ok one more. Stick with the stock kernel on your rom to start. It's not a great kernel but it gets the job done. Once you determine that you like everything, make a nandroid backup and then flash Tiamat 3.3.7 (Aka the LEE kernel, because it kicks ass). It works extremely well for most everyone.
 
Ok, well that's probably overkill but it's not hurting anything. Did you restore any apps or anything with Titanium/Mybackuppro or anything like that after you flashed? It's possible that your phone just doesn't like Tiamat for some reason. I would just flash with the stock kernel that is included with the ROM.
 
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