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Root So Now that Sense 3.0 DOESN'T Require Dual Core...

novox77 said:
When the framerate drops to something rediculous like 3fps for about 1-2 seconds. Can happen any time and is hard to reproduce. CPU is probably doing something intensive in the background and can't render the UI animations fast enough.

I get them on stock ROMs (w/ netarchy-toastmod kernels). less so when I run ADW launcher over the Sense launcher. I've always felt they were Sense-related because of this.

Nonexistent on CM7 and MIUI.
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Hmmm. What sort of UI animations might these be noticeable on?
 
EarlyMon said:
Hmmm. What sort of UI animations might these be noticeable on?
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usually transitions between UI activities. Lockscreen to homescreen... Home screen to settings page. Sometimes just scrolling the homescreens. Just now, I long pressed on the home screen to add an app, and the resulting page that came up was animated (it scrolls from bottom to top). When it works normally, the scroll is so fast, you might not even notice it. But I hit a lag spike, so I could see individual frames of the scroll animation. And it took a few seconds for the page to become usable.

BTW, this is definitely not limited to Sense. the iPhone does this at times as well. Saw it in the Epic demo phones in the Sprint store as well.
 
Ok. Now I finally understand your complaint.

I've seen that. I used to experience it. I thought it was from fooling around with my phone and loading so much junk on it.

I did something months ago that seemed obvious at the time to fix it and haven't had it since. What the Sam Hill was it????? I remember not finding top for Android, then doing some sort of ps fiddling... I wonder if there's any way I kept logs of what I did.

OK - I'll look in my backups and re-look at my config. If I'd have known that it wasn't just me, I'd have kept better track and offered what I'd done long ago. :( :( :(

(posted before seeing your vid - watching it now)
 
lag spike... i like it...well not lag spike itself but the description... lots of lag spike on the a500
 
just found a great new addition. Your most recently-run apps show up in the status bar pulldown window. Much more convenient than long-pressing home IMO.
 
novox77 said:
check out 0:46 when I was scrolling the app drawer.
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Yeah - I would experience it when I saw that as a kind of bad stuttering when doing a pinch to show all 7 home screens - that sort of thing.

I get that it's possibly non-obvious for a light phone user - but I hope you know me well enough to know that's not the case.

I'm so p.o.'d at myself right now, I can't see straight. I did something to fix some problem, didn't document it because I thought it was just me, and now if I can't find it, others will suffer for no good reason. :mad::mad::mad:
 
Urban Dictionary: lag spike

Had to google it to make sure it wasn't something I made up. And now that I think about it, I picked it up playing an MMORPG (Ragnarok Online)... When your game client depends on the server to sync up on events, a lag spike can pretty much kill you. And I play a healer class... so if I die, party dies :)
 
If this thing really runs as nicely as you say I have much hope for the 3D. I know specualtions by some were that the 3D would seem the same speed as an EVO due to being bogged down by this new sense (likely because the speculation at the time was that the new Sense wasn't compatible with single core processors).

I am most curious about battery life. If it isn't worse than stock sense 1.0 roms, I have hope that the 3D battery life will be phenom!

novox77 said:
Urban Dictionary: lag spike

Had to google it to make sure it wasn't something I made up. And now that I think about it, I picked it up playing an MMORPG (Ragnarok Online)... When your game client depends on the server to sync up on events, a lag spike can pretty much kill you. And I play a healer class... so if I die, party dies :)
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I was just going to comment on this. EarlyMon likely isn't a gamer. "Lag Spike" is pretty commonplace gamertongue! ;)
 
So... let's talk where the silly rumor that sense 3.0 would require dual core originated. We had a similar rumor about gingerbread as well if I am not mistaken?
 
yeah endgadget actually said that htc is the one who said that only phones with dual core can actually handle sense 3.0., but i guess htc was wrong.
 
ocnbrze said:
yeah endgadget actually said that htc is the one who said that only phones with dual core can actually handle sense 3.0., but i guess htc was wrong.
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I suppose HTC could be wrong, but that is a pretty monumentous thing to be wrong about (especially since 3.0 clearly runs just fine on the EVO without much optimization of the ROM).

I suspect one of two things:
1. HTC ACTUALLY said they were planning on officially releasing it for their dual core models.
2. Someone that is affiliated with HTC that doesn't really know enough about the working of these products made a foolish statement that wasn't substantiated by any evidence whatsoever.
3. There are probably a million other scenarios, but those two seem the most likely from my limited perspective.
 
battery life was fine on wifi. the ROM was clean; no carrier crapware yet. But... I also know what to turn off based on my usage to maximize battery life so YMMV.

Ok, it's not the dual-core or lack thereof that this ROM can't be run on older phones. It's the internal memory. I just tried to restore my apps, and I ran out of space after 1/3 of my apps got copied.

I have a total of 73 apps. Running out of space after 20 apps is not really practical.

Ok, flashing back to my regular ROM. It was interesting to get a preview of the new Sense.
 
just did a factory reset to see how much space the ROM takes up without my data... and the phone went into a boot loop. vanilla android boot animation just blinks. Not the end of the world; just a heads up.
 
novox77 said:
Ok, it's not the dual-core or lack thereof that this ROM can't be run on older phones. It's the internal memory. I just tried to restore my apps, and I ran out of space after 1/3 of my apps got copied.
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Interesting. I remember actually reading somewhere that the ROM itself was big and we were musing that the onboard ROM of 1gig would be the limiting factor. :)

Thanks for being the guinnea pig ;)
 
novox77 said:
battery life was fine on wifi. the ROM was clean; no carrier crapware yet. But... I also know what to turn off based on my usage to maximize battery life so YMMV.

Ok, it's not the dual-core or lack thereof that this ROM can't be run on older phones. It's the internal memory. I just tried to restore my apps, and I ran out of space after 1/3 of my apps got copied.

I have a total of 73 apps. Running out of space after 20 apps is not really practical.

Ok, flashing back to my regular ROM. It was interesting to get a preview of the new Sense.
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did you do the sdcard partition from his gingersense thread first? I thought this would help with the app space issue?
 
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