Root First step: Evo 4G "overclocked"

[dustwun77]

The Rom link give me a lot to consider. And it sound like Titanium is the way to go.

So the free version doesn't do the trick?

Gotta ask Granite the same question. Plus there seemed to be 3 or 4 versions of titanium.

For now i can report that i haven't had to charge my phone but once a night. Charge when i go to bed and it lasts the whole day. Been using my house wifi. One place says that uses more battery but for me ( along with the new ROM ) the battery last longer.

It's like ROM Viagra HA!

I heard they used to give that stuff to old men so they wouldn't roll out of bed at night.

anyway, i know jack about titanium, I use appmonster, the free version, I only have a few apps and don't necessarily want them all on my phone, just want them around so I will remember them in case I want them or need them. I think the free version does work, just not in batch mode, you have to pick stuff one at a time.

Think it is established you are rooted, I know that apps that use root ask permission and something to do with the superuser function or app, I just know to give them permission always and then they work, don't know how to go back and give it to it later, figure it would ask every time you tried to use it and give you the chance to say yes.

I thought titanium put a version of busybox on ur phone too. Don't ask me what it is cause I don't have a clue. I know there is a busybox installer app too, that will give you the option to install different versions of it, don't know which is best.

Here is a link for both of us to learn about titanium, have to have root to use titanium back up? - Google Search

There is one link that says I am too dumb to use titanium, I didn't write it but i sympathize.

Whatever program you backed them up with should be able to put them back on your phone. BUT, you have to download and install it again first then figure out how to use it.

As far as wifi using your battery, if you have a good strong signal and are hooked up to it, it uses less than 3g or whatever. I think where some folk say it gives a problem is when you have wifi looking for networks all day and you aren't around one, then it is just spinning it's wheels and using battery.

 

[kryptonyt]

"Whatever program you backed them up with should be able to put them back on your phone. BUT, you have to download and install it again first then figure out how to use it."

I can see the apps in my back-up folder and one of them is actually Titanium. But the interface doesn't look like what I used and the names on the apps are way different than the icons. So Dolphin Browser for instance says something like Tunny Software. When I typed that in on a Market search it took me to Dolphin. So it might be a while before I go through and 15 Apps that are in the backup folder.

I also noticed that my tethering app is not in the new ROM. There is something called tether but it is a game with balls that drop into holes. Not even sure if there is an objective to win?

 

[dustwun77]

I don't know what is up with all of that. you should be able to download titanium from market and use it to restore even if it is different, you'd think they would be compatible.

May have to download them all again and use titanium on them again for next time?

 

[ocnbrze]

i agree just redownload titanium backup. and if you get that message again check your superuser app. sometimes it denies permission and your app will not have access to the system partitions. most of the time that is the case. each rooted app must ask for permission and the superuser is the one that will allow or deny an app.

 

[Granite1]

Like Ocn said, I'd redownload titanium backup, the free version, once it installs open the app. You'll get a POP up with what looks like a scull and cross bones. This is the superuser app. Give titanium permission. Once that's done you select the middle box at the top for backup and restore. Scroll to the very bottom and the apps you backed up should be there with a thin line through them. Click on each one, one at a time and select restore, then select app only.

If you ever have a root app that won't work because of permissions, go in your app drawer and click on the superuser app, scull, and cross bones, and you should see a list of root apps. If any have the red circle with the line through it, click on that app and allow permissions. That "should" fix any ignorant root only apps.

 

[dustwun77]

There you go, Granite1! Thanks, I learned some stuff too!

 

[myea_one]

I did notice that I had my phone under-clocked to 128mhz minimum and it was a little choppy. I changed to 245mhz minimun a couple of hours ago and its been running a lot smoother since. In case anyone was having that same problem. i currently have it on smartass governor, but i alternate between ondemand and smartass.

 

[ocnbrze]

I did notice that I had my phone under-clocked to 128mhz minimum and it was a little choppy. I changed to 245mhz minimun a couple of hours ago and its been running a lot smoother since. In case anyone was having that same problem. i currently have it on smartass governor, but i alternate between ondemand and smartass.

thanx for making my eyes hurt with that damn comic sans font.

my phone actually does really well at 128. i have a 128/128 screen off profile and it really helps with battery life. though not sure if my phone likes the current chops suey kernel and the interactive governor. one more day and it is back to one of the freedom kernels.

 

[myea_one]

thanx for making my eyes hurt with that damn comic sans font.

my phone actually does really well at 128. i have a 128/128 screen off profile and it really helps with battery life. though not sure if my phone likes the current chops suey kernel and the interactive governor. one more day and it is back to one of the freedom kernels.

a thousand apologies for the font, was messing around on the reply screen....hehe

I tried to do the off screen profile and it lagged the phone on start up....freedom kernels been fine, I think the best kernel was the stock kernel but i wanted to overclock, tried a few kernels and am gonna see how this less freedom kernel does. I'm also testing out the different governers, so far interactivex and on demand have been the most stable....

 

[dustwun77]

Freakin evo rooters always got to be messin around with stuff, imagine that...

 

[myea_one]

Freakin evo rooters always got to be messin around with stuff, imagine that...

 

[kryptonyt]

i agree just redownload titanium backup. and if you get that message again check your superuser app. sometimes it denies permission and your app will not have access to the system partitions. most of the time that is the case. each rooted app must ask for permission and the superuser is the one that will allow or deny an app.

I downloaded busy box and it gave me a message to go into settings and then the message disappeared.
I opened Titanium again and this time it gave me an option to accept.

It isn't clear what to do so I checked preferences and the first box is not checked Auto-sync TB settings. Enable drop box is not checked but says "for Pro only"

It looks like a lot of options to be checked and unchecked before it does what? Fetches the apps that I backed up before the flash and new ROM?

I just got the drop box notice again that said there is not enough room on my SD card or that it has to be "unmounted"

And last but not least i keep getting a notice that an update is available for the new ROM. It lists the latest version that is on the page that Dust linked in his post.

I hit cancel twice so far and it keeps coming back.

Suggestions?

 

[kryptonyt]

Like Ocn said, I'd redownload titanium backup, the free version, once it installs open the app. You'll get a POP up with what looks like a scull and cross bones. This is the superuser app. Give titanium permission. Once that's done you select the middle box at the top for backup and restore. Scroll to the very bottom and the apps you backed up should be there with a thin line through them. Click on each one, one at a time and select restore, then select app only.

If you ever have a root app that won't work because of permissions, go in your app drawer and click on the superuser app, scull, and cross bones, and you should see a list of root apps. If any have the red circle with the line through it, click on that app and allow permissions. That "should" fix any ignorant root only apps.

No Skull and Cross bones but then again I didn't redownload it. Just opened it after downloading busy box which gave me the SD unmounted message that I mentioned in my post to Ocean.
Superuser app has a green button by BusyBox installer, Quick Boot, and Titanium Backup. Under "LOG" it has two dates today with titanium and busybox being both created and allowed, and Sept 4 with quick boot created and allowed.

Going by this is sounds like everything is fully functional but i have no idea how to find my SD card and my back up folder.

Do you think i should morph this seminar on getting to know my EVO into a new post? Not sure that any of that earlier stuff will help anyone...can there be anyone less informed than i am?

 

[kryptonyt]

PS What about the tethering? I found a couple apps on the market but thought that it came with my other ROM ( Unless the seller added it before I picked the phone up? )

 

[dustwun77]

I downloaded busy box and it gave me a message to go into settings and then the message disappeared.
I opened Titanium again and this time it gave me an option to accept.

It isn't clear what to do so I checked preferences and the first box is not checked Auto-sync TB settings. Enable drop box is not checked but says "for Pro only"

It looks like a lot of options to be checked and unchecked before it does what? Fetches the apps that I backed up before the flash and new ROM?

I just got the drop box notice again that said there is not enough room on my SD card or that it has to be "unmounted"

And last but not least i keep getting a notice that an update is available for the new ROM. It lists the latest version that is on the page that Dust linked in his post.

I hit cancel twice so far and it keeps coming back.

Suggestions?

menu/settings/system updates/HTC software updates, unclick Scheduled check, maybe that will make it quit checking to see if you want to update, because if it is the stock update, you DON'T want it. let me get this to you, let me know if it is like that on your phone and you did it, ok?

 

[dustwun77]

PS What about the tethering? I found a couple apps on the market but thought that it came with my other ROM ( Unless the seller added it before I picked the phone up? )

some custom roms have tethering, either wireless or usb, or a hotspot built in. They have different characteristics about how they work. Need to try them and see how they work. Or maybe ask someone how they work in your specific rom and maybe someone will remember.

There is an app on the market called wireless tether, it doesn't work in some roms, but it works with 4g with others. There is thread in here about wireless tethering, let me find it for you.

edit: Here you go http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-all...net-tethering-w-evo-4g-3g-wireless-wired.html

 

[dustwun77]

No Skull and Cross bones but then again I didn't redownload it. Just opened it after downloading busy box which gave me the SD unmounted message that I mentioned in my post to Ocean.
Superuser app has a green button by BusyBox installer, Quick Boot, and Titanium Backup. Under "LOG" it has two dates today with titanium and busybox being both created and allowed, and Sept 4 with quick boot created and allowed.

Going by this is sounds like everything is fully functional but i have no idea how to find my SD card and my back up folder.

Do you think i should morph this seminar on getting to know my EVO into a new post? Not sure that any of that earlier stuff will help anyone...can there be anyone less informed than i am?

A lot of this is greek to me, I dl'd it lately to see if I could be familiar with it. I didn't have to do anything to get it to work except when I tried it it asked for superuser permission, I gave it to it then.

Open titanium backup app and then
press the bu/restore button top center when you open app and scroll through and see which ones it says are backed up. tap them and another menus opens up with a lot of options, one of which is to restore.

You don't need to go looking at your card, the app does it and list what is on it. I understand the ones in red you shouldn't back up and restore to different roms, cause they might mess up the new rom because they bring parts of the old rom with it and corrupt the new one.

 

[ocnbrze]

No Skull and Cross bones but then again I didn't redownload it. Just opened it after downloading busy box which gave me the SD unmounted message that I mentioned in my post to Ocean.
Superuser app has a green button by BusyBox installer, Quick Boot, and Titanium Backup. Under "LOG" it has two dates today with titanium and busybox being both created and allowed, and Sept 4 with quick boot created and allowed.

Going by this is sounds like everything is fully functional but i have no idea how to find my SD card and my back up folder.

Do you think i should morph this seminar on getting to know my EVO into a new post? Not sure that any of that earlier stuff will help anyone...can there be anyone less informed than i am?

just out curiosity can you go into settings/sd and phone storage/ and see if you can mount and unmount your card. not sure why you are getting that in tb. looks like everything is ok as far as superuser goes. and what exactly are you trying to do? can you backup your apps? can you see your apps in tb?

 

[kryptonyt]

menu/settings/system updates/HTC software updates, unclick Scheduled check, maybe that will make it quit checking to see if you want to update, because if it is the stock update, you DON'T want it. let me get this to you, let me know if it is like that on your phone and you did it, ok?

It was indeed checked so i now unchecked it. However, and i hope i am wrong, when i turned my phone off last night and on this morning the screen was different and the apps that I had on my desktop were missing. Could it be that it updated?

In Software Info this is what is there ( a few other things too ) Does this tell me if it updated or do i need to get that info from Hboot?
2,3,3
baseband 2.15.00.05.02
kernel 2.6.35.10
build
4.24.651.1
software 4.24.651.1

 

[kryptonyt]

just out curiosity can you go into settings/sd and phone storage/ and see if you can mount and unmount your card. not sure why you are getting that in tb. looks like everything is ok as far as superuser goes. and what exactly are you trying to do? can you backup your apps? can you see your apps in tb?

Unmount SD card is a choice. Under that Erase SD card is not a choice.

When attached to my computer as an F drive i still can see the old apps. They do not appear as icons and choosing icon in explorer doesn't change anything. The names on them are different than the name of the apps that i downloaded. i think i mentioned this before: Dolphin Browser is called tunny something or other. If i go to market place and type that tunny thing in Dolphin comes up. Maybe that makes sense to in a way that is out of my grade level.

As far as what i am trying to do is to get the APPs back. But there aren't that many and i am slowly figuring out what they are and re-downloading them. But there are a few pictures and one or two music downloads. Not the end of the world to lose them. But now that i have titanium running it is interesting that it doesn't recognize the SD card.

 

[dustwun77]

It was indeed checked so i now unchecked it. However, and i hope i am wrong, when i turned my phone off last night and on this morning the screen was different and the apps that I had on my desktop were missing. Could it be that it updated?

In Software Info this is what is there ( a few other things too ) Does this tell me if it updated or do i need to get that info from Hboot?
2,3,3
baseband 2.15.00.05.02
kernel 2.6.35.10
build
4.24.651.1
software 4.24.651.1

I don't think it did ,I think you would have a different baseband if it had updated, plus,I think you would be noticing more and different problems. The bootloader screen would tell you what hboot you have and if you still have S-off. Can't figure out how your screen changed on you. Man, you have some weird symptoms over there.

Has it stopped asking you if you want to update now? Hopefully unchecking that did the trick, that is what I have seen suggested a number of times in here.

As far as your music and pictures, different apps on your phone, that came with the rom, should see them automatically. Have you explored any that seem to be related to music or pictures?

I don't know what rom you are running and am not familiar enough with them to be able to tell you what the names would be but the names and icons should be suggestive of their function, somewhat.

I have pics and music as well, the music app that came with the rom picks up what I have automatically. I use something called quickpick for my photos, it does a good job of finding any pics I have on the card. I got it in the market, for free. Try it, you might like it.

Have you looked in the backup and restore portion of TB to see the list of apps on your phone? Do you see where they have notes with them if they are backed up or not backed up yet? I think you should leave the red ones alone, the other ones though, if you want to back them up, click on them, and it will give you an option to do so. If you were on the paid version, you would be able to use the option to freeze them, to test if it is safe to do with out them, as well.

The apps that say they are backed up in tb, if you click them, it should give you the option to restore or install them, or something. Fortunately you are finding them again on the market anyway.

 

[kryptonyt]

I just launched TB again. Each time is a new experience. This time i had to again agree to something...the counter did it for me. Then i get this warning:
Warning-System configuration
Your system settings will prevent you from restoring applications. To correct this, go to your phone's settings then in Applications and tick "Unknown Sources" check box.
OK?

So, is this what i want to do?

i understand that this app TB will allow me to back-up my phone as i did last week. But do i want to back it up now without knowing why i can't access the things i mentioned in my last post?
As i am writing this i go into setting, applications, manage applications, and on the top menu is " ON SD " and what is on the SD that shows up here are all of the new apps that i've downloaded since flashing. i do not see the music or the photo's.
Most of the photo's were ones i took with the phone. How else would i find them if they were loaded back on to the new ROM?
After my last post i did notice that the software number was the same as the one that i flashed the other day and not the newest one. The notice does not appear anymore. Thanks for the tip!

I'm totally jazzed about the battery staying power since i updated. With the last ROM i couldn't get the wifi to connect. Now it is connected while i'm home and maybe that is giving the battery staying power.

Is there a warning that if my battery last for 4 days or longer that i should call a doctor? LMAO!

 

[dustwun77]

I just launched TB again. Each time is a new experience. This time i had to again agree to something...the counter did it for me. Then i get this warning:
Warning-System configuration
Your system settings will prevent you from restoring applications. To correct this, go to your phone's settings then in Applications and tick "Unknown Sources" check box.
OK?

So, is this what i want to do?

i understand that this app TB will allow me to back-up my phone as i did last week. But do i want to back it up now without knowing why i can't access the things i mentioned in my last post?
As i am writing this i go into setting, applications, manage applications, and on the top menu is " ON SD " and what is on the SD that shows up here are all of the new apps that i've downloaded since flashing. i do not see the music or the photo's.
Most of the photo's were ones i took with the phone. How else would i find them if they were loaded back on to the new ROM?
After my last post i did notice that the software number was the same as the one that i flashed the other day and not the newest one. The notice does not appear anymore. Thanks for the tip!

I'm totally jazzed about the battery staying power since i updated. With the last ROM i couldn't get the wifi to connect. Now it is connected while i'm home and maybe that is giving the battery staying power.

Is there a warning that if my battery last for 4 days or longer that i should call a doctor? LMAO!

yes, check on unknown sources, not a problem.

There in "on sd" would be the apps you downloaded, plus ones that came with rom, because you are looking at "managing applications"

did you try looking for your pics with an app built in to the rom, like gallery, or something like quickpic that I mentioned getting from the market? They should be there, I just think you are trying to find them using the wrong tools on the phone.

Music same deal.

how about just going to market and get quickpik and appmonster and leave that tb alone till you get your phone set up the way you want it and back it up? Appmonster is such a simple program even I can understand it.

 

[ocnbrze]

think of it this way titanum backup is only used to back up and restore apps and its data. it really should not be used for anything else. if you are looking for pics and stuff then other apps are needed. you can use a file manager like es file manager or root explorer to access you sd card.

your nandrod backups are what you will need to do to backup your entire phone settings, data, and apps.

 

[kryptonyt]

yes, check on unknown sources, not a problem.
........how about just going to market and get quickpik and appmonster and leave that tb alone till you get your phone set up the way you want it and back it up? Appmonster is such a simple program even I can understand it.

Humble Pie time:

i just don't completely get how the phone is suppose to work. You were right about using the proper app to find what is in that nandrod. So when i used "Gallery" there were my pictures and some that probably came with the ROM since they are not mine.
Then i went to "Music" and the only song that i have downloaded is there and plays well. The other music that i mentioned was set up in Pandora so i suppose when i redownload Pandora it will be there in my account? i'm once again guessing.

i recall you telling me about storing "all your nandrods" on your PC. Again i am guessing why you might want to do that but not positive and i'll go back and find the post where you mention that and see if you tell me exactly how to do that. Maybe it's a simple drag and drop into a Nan Folder on my PC. Of course i'll eventually have to know how to flash them back if i want/need to do that.

Another slice of Pie: Today i noticed as if for the first time the page that andoidforums opened up to. It is a long complete list of answers to most of the frequently asked questions by droid owners by SirSlayer
if i spend 15 minutes a morning perusing his post i might wind up not sounding like a hyper-active impatient child who dresses up like an idiot everyday pretending that it's Halloween.
To all of you regulars who have stuck with me and babied me through these frustrations my fools hat is off to you! Thanks! Special thanks to the dustwun77, ocnbrze, Granite1, Xtremedays, handler313--> for his translation post, and there's a few people on the first page who kept coming back to answer the same questions that kept coming up until a new one came up. Being in the Army during wartime make a person realize how important it is to have buddies that may say under their breath
( this guy is an idiot ) but they realize that lives depend on making sure that he/she becomes all that they can be as the saying goes. So not to be overly dramatic here; this isn't war but it shows great character when your "team" pulls out all the stops to make sure that you get it.

Thanks again; This is a GREAT forum because you guys make it GREAT!

i still haven't put away the Halloween costume yet but maybe after a few days of reading SIR Slayer's post maybe the questions will become fewer and i can start paying it forward myself and be cool like my team members/teachers