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***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**
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BlueBiker
Android Expert
(Steven wonders how far off topic we can go... this is a ground breaking experiment.)
One of these posts from a mod isn't like the others. I plan to observe the rules of the thread, but if they've changed then maybe the first post above should be updated.On station, got your back.
Off-topic posts below this point deleted with extreme prejudice.
Nothing personal - but that's the way it's got to be.
This is now the Number One Thread on the Internet for user-vetted Prime News - let's respect that newcomers have a right to know, with less noise.
Cheers, many thanks to all for working with us on this.
FWIW, sometimes it seems that when a few of us really get into talking chip tech (on topic!), other people get bored to tears. I guess there's a middle ground in there somewhere.
Here is a sum up of all the rumors...
Well, that pretty well sums it ALL up - great chart, thanks!
Dubbin1
Android Expert
While 30 days has always been a good rule of thumb, during the Evo 3D launch, we tracked and noted several phones this year that had a little over a week's delay between FCC approval and launch.
Plus - those FCC posts are courtesy of leaks, and we don't always get them, so - you know.
You should be able to search the FFC yourself for the info without waiting for it to be leaked
I have done it many many times looking for amateur radio information.
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HanSolo
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Not to be rebellious or anything, Steven, but he's right. I literally hold my head in my hands and glaze over with all this chip crap, and sometimes we need to lighten the mood in order to keep us from spiraling into a depressive mood because of negative news coming out.
But I will abide by the rules. Although I still think CK should be banned for that Shelby Township talk!
eyetek
Well-Known Member
First of all I want to apologize to anyone who took my post this morning that was deleted by the Mods as being rude or inappropriate. I am not sure looking back at what was wrote how it could have been taken the wrong way but that it not my judgement and it was removed so again I apologize.
Second I have posted my opinions on lots of things in this thread and they are nothing more than opinions and as I said I will own them when the facts come out so that being said I am going to put my final opinion on what Specs I believe Verizon's version of the Nexus device will have.
I am going to use vz_wired's posts as my guide and attempt to go from there and put the specs down using logic and maybe if vz_wired feels generous he will chime in on my results...or maybe not, and that's OK.
We had BGR release specs on Oct. 6th that were less than stellar and most were disappointed including myself, I remember vz_wired tell us that we would be VERY HAPPY when the phone was announced. By the response of the members in this thread that was not the reaction so those specs must not be accurate.
Later that morning vz_wired posted this...
So lets start there...
#1 - One of the biggest disappointments seemed to stem from the Processor spec, it has long been rumored that the Nexus would have a 1.5GHz dual core processor and the TI OMAP 4460 cloked at 1.2GHz just didn't make us VERY HAPPY so as I have stated I believe the processor will be the exynos 4212 clocked at 1.5GHz that includes the PowerVR SGX543MP2 GPU that processor is produced by Samsung and I believe is ready and will be used in the Nexus for Verizon.
#2 - The next correction I believe will be in the Camera, maybe it wasn't such an issue with us in this thread but I believe it is a focus for Samsung and Google in the Nexus phone. I believe it will have a 8 MP rear and 2 MP front facing camera with Samsung's new S5K2P1 CMOS image sensor.
#3 - Next correction I believe will be in the Radio, some of the main issues we have debated in this thread is the idea of multiple phones going to different carriers and how that would impact the phones specs because of case size (thinness) I believe they will use the same case the larger SCH- i515 case and use its depth to include a LTE + Dual CDMA/GSM system so they only have to create one phone for the US markets and another for the global markets.
#4 - The last correction is going to be the Battery, I am not sure on this one but have two theories, either the Nexus will have a 2050mAh replaceable battery like we are are used to or there might be a chance that this device may go the route of the iphone and have a closed battery system and will need to be serviced for replacement if needed to save space within the case for the dual radios.
I believe these changes may just be the 4 that vz_wired spoke of in his post and if I'm correct I believe that the Nexus will in fact be exactly what he claims when he says...
One last bit of information I used to base my logic from...Samsung released the Galaxy S ll on the other carriers and for the specs to be anything close to those of that phone would not make any sense. But Samsung also announced the specs of the Samsung Galaxy S ll LTE HD for the Asian markets for Nov. of 2011, those specs I mentioned have all been rumored to be used in that phone and in fact that phone has the HD screen that nobody rejects will be in the Nexus device. I contend that the LTE HD phone announced for Asia is in fact the basis for the Nexus device.
Anything less than those specs found for the Samsung Galaxy S ll LTE HD device would be a step backwards for Samsung and Googles Nexus device.
So I believe the following will be the core specs for the Nexus ...
Again I own my opinion and will look back to this post to determine how close or far off I was once the announcement and specs are released by Samsung and Verizon when that time comes.
Second I have posted my opinions on lots of things in this thread and they are nothing more than opinions and as I said I will own them when the facts come out so that being said I am going to put my final opinion on what Specs I believe Verizon's version of the Nexus device will have.
I am going to use vz_wired's posts as my guide and attempt to go from there and put the specs down using logic and maybe if vz_wired feels generous he will chime in on my results...or maybe not, and that's OK.
We had BGR release specs on Oct. 6th that were less than stellar and most were disappointed including myself, I remember vz_wired tell us that we would be VERY HAPPY when the phone was announced. By the response of the members in this thread that was not the reaction so those specs must not be accurate.
Later that morning vz_wired posted this...
So lets start there...
BGR said:
#1 - One of the biggest disappointments seemed to stem from the Processor spec, it has long been rumored that the Nexus would have a 1.5GHz dual core processor and the TI OMAP 4460 cloked at 1.2GHz just didn't make us VERY HAPPY so as I have stated I believe the processor will be the exynos 4212 clocked at 1.5GHz that includes the PowerVR SGX543MP2 GPU that processor is produced by Samsung and I believe is ready and will be used in the Nexus for Verizon.
#2 - The next correction I believe will be in the Camera, maybe it wasn't such an issue with us in this thread but I believe it is a focus for Samsung and Google in the Nexus phone. I believe it will have a 8 MP rear and 2 MP front facing camera with Samsung's new S5K2P1 CMOS image sensor.
#3 - Next correction I believe will be in the Radio, some of the main issues we have debated in this thread is the idea of multiple phones going to different carriers and how that would impact the phones specs because of case size (thinness) I believe they will use the same case the larger SCH- i515 case and use its depth to include a LTE + Dual CDMA/GSM system so they only have to create one phone for the US markets and another for the global markets.
#4 - The last correction is going to be the Battery, I am not sure on this one but have two theories, either the Nexus will have a 2050mAh replaceable battery like we are are used to or there might be a chance that this device may go the route of the iphone and have a closed battery system and will need to be serviced for replacement if needed to save space within the case for the dual radios.
I believe these changes may just be the 4 that vz_wired spoke of in his post and if I'm correct I believe that the Nexus will in fact be exactly what he claims when he says...
One last bit of information I used to base my logic from...Samsung released the Galaxy S ll on the other carriers and for the specs to be anything close to those of that phone would not make any sense. But Samsung also announced the specs of the Samsung Galaxy S ll LTE HD for the Asian markets for Nov. of 2011, those specs I mentioned have all been rumored to be used in that phone and in fact that phone has the HD screen that nobody rejects will be in the Nexus device. I contend that the LTE HD phone announced for Asia is in fact the basis for the Nexus device.
Anything less than those specs found for the Samsung Galaxy S ll LTE HD device would be a step backwards for Samsung and Googles Nexus device.
So I believe the following will be the core specs for the Nexus ...
Again I own my opinion and will look back to this post to determine how close or far off I was once the announcement and specs are released by Samsung and Verizon when that time comes.
You're right. I admit my mistake. I'm sorry.
My frustration is that this thread was getting too much off topic. Let's stay on or close.
racerxe24
Well-Known Member
Here is a sum up of all the rumors...
Havn't the supposed two different phones passed through WiFi and Bluetooth cert?
cereal killer
Android Expert
Slashgear and some other blogs are all saying the same thing. "They wouldn't be surprised to see the 4212 show up in the Nexus"
Nuff said
Nuff said
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HanSolo
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That's a little bit too logical for Verizon. Here's hoping you're right.
Oh, and FWIW, my sister got off work and called me from her non-work cell. She told me that she can't text me anymore from work about anything phone-related. People over there are a little scared of getting in trouble. She told me that there was someone in a high position at Corporate who got fired! No one knows the exact reason, but they suspect it was for leaking info.
So I think that well has dried up, not that it was very full to begin with.
Steven and I are much alike personally and are actively skyping real-time on our actions here.
We're ok with the original ground rules - but when the noise far outnumbered the signal in posts, then the contract was broken, honestly.
And what you aren't seeing is the management performed already.
When posts flood in, no one reads anything except the last off-topic post and respond to that, in leap-frog manner, the whole thread was getting hijacked.
It was getting out of hand.
That helps no one.
People pull back from extremes, we will too - but first, let's just please get back on track.
Key phrase in my post - Cheers, thanks for working with us on this!
You should be able to search the FFC yourself for the info without waiting for it to be leaked
For things like this, the FCC transactions are sealed during review and for an agreed-upon time after, due to competitive issues over international trade.
That's why we rely on leaks.
Even then, only in rare cases do leaks get out of hand. I had the schematics for the Evo 3D well before the phone hit shelves, something that was supposed to remain confidential for some time for obvious reasons.
iowabowtech
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Killer job on the summary post. Thanks for that.
ItIsLikeThat
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ItIsLikeThat
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So I did some poking.
Samsung says the 4212 GPU (unnamed) is 50% faster than the 4210.
The ARM Mali 400MP in the 4210 SoC is rated at 30m triangles/second.
The PowerVR SGX543MP2 is rated at 35m triangles/second.
Maybe it is another metric they are using...but the specifications there don't quite match...
Millinium
Well-Known Member
Here is a sum up of all the rumors...
Maybe the VZ guy will look at this chart and say at least 1 of the 4 is exactly correct??? Any how, this thread has consumed way too much of my time. By the time this phone comes out I just might be divorced.
r4yN
Android Enthusiast
1. GPU performance is not only triangles/second
2. GSMarena mentions only a Dual-Core GPU by imagination... they suggested the PowerVr SGX543MP2...
quote:
"On that chipset will also reside a powerful dual-core GPU from Imagination. We suspect it's going to be the PowerVR SGX543MP2, or in other words, the same GPU found in the iPad 2 (and quite probably on the iPhone 4S as well)."
well i think it's gonna be the PowerVr SGX544Mp2, which is slightely faster and newer than the apple A5...
kastleberg
Android Enthusiast
So, are there any events coming up from anyone that could present a decent stage for an announcement? Anything coming up for Google, Samsung, or Verizon?
RichSz
Not Entitled
In all the technical frenzy we tend to get into, it's sometimes the simple things we miss. Since I can't talk chips, I'll mention something far more practical.
Does the darn thing have external volume controls? If Samsung is willing to potentially leave off "essentials" like a micro-sd slot and notify LED, perhaps no volume either. I hope not because that would bug me.
If they do have volume buttons, I hope they put them on the same side as the headphone jack. My DX has the jack on the opposite side and it's a pain to change the volume between songs when it's in a belt case. You have to take the whole phone out to get at the volume.
I hope Samsung thought this one out.
Does the darn thing have external volume controls? If Samsung is willing to potentially leave off "essentials" like a micro-sd slot and notify LED, perhaps no volume either. I hope not because that would bug me.
If they do have volume buttons, I hope they put them on the same side as the headphone jack. My DX has the jack on the opposite side and it's a pain to change the volume between songs when it's in a belt case. You have to take the whole phone out to get at the volume.
I hope Samsung thought this one out.
Ynomrah
Well-Known Member
Just when i thought i knew everything and had a date set for me to wrap my head around all the rumors floating around (was away from technology for a few days), everything gets delayed just like that overnight.
O well. Glad i got to see the phone and ICS though in that video.
Loving the ongoing processor debate though~ lol
O well. Glad i got to see the phone and ICS though in that video.
Loving the ongoing processor debate though~ lol
cereal killer
Android Expert
I keep thinking about them cancelling the reveal on the 11th and I can't stop thinking of them saying "you know we really shouldn't drop this thing right now. Its just not right."
They must be holding onto some serious hardware to feel bad about unveiling it during this time of Mr Jobs death. I mean that's a HUGE decision and this reveal may be so newsworthy in the tech world that its in bad taste.
You know they were going to try and drop kick the iPhone out of the news and came prepared in full battle dress. For human emotion to shape a corporate decision this phone must be truly epic and in bad taste to release now. That's pretty heavy if you think about it.
They must be holding onto some serious hardware to feel bad about unveiling it during this time of Mr Jobs death. I mean that's a HUGE decision and this reveal may be so newsworthy in the tech world that its in bad taste.
You know they were going to try and drop kick the iPhone out of the news and came prepared in full battle dress. For human emotion to shape a corporate decision this phone must be truly epic and in bad taste to release now. That's pretty heavy if you think about it.
This was EXACTLY my thought this morning. They didn't want drop kick apple a week after Mr. Job's demise. It's bad form, bad karma, bad deed, sin or whatever you want to call it.
This phone's gonna be a game changer. I LOVE THIS thread (like I loved the Incredible thread of yore.)
cereal killer
Android Expert
Just days ago they were laughing because they knew they were about to drop the Atom Bomb on Apple, well its not funny anymore to them.
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