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What Brand will make the next nexus?

Oh OK ...was not a wear ...and thanks for the warning ...lol...I guess I'll just have to keep my dedications to myself :D
 
Samsung does a lot of things right, but I do have an issue with the plastic they use to make their phones.

They just feel inferior.

That's not to say I don't have/use Samsung phones. But HTCs phones in particular feel premium in your palm. Like a $650 piece of technology should.


I'm just saying without their software additions(which would be absent in a nexus), you aren't left with much else.
 
Rxpert83 said:
Samsung does a lot of things right, but I do have an issue with the plastic they use to make their phones.

They just feel inferior.

That's not to say I don't have/use Samsung phones. But HTCs phones in particular feel premium in your palm. Like a $650 piece of technology should.


I'm just saying without their software additions(which would be absent in a nexus), you aren't left with much else.
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Is the whole signal issue with aluminum really that bad? People with the One say that if your hands is covering up the signal steps on the back, you'd signal can go in and out real bad.

My main concern with aluminum would be the scratching. But honestly plastic doesn't bother me. As long as it feels good in the hand, I'm cool with it. That was the first thing I noticed when I first held my N4, it felt very solid in the hand. Was surprised honestly. You read about it but you don't actually know until you hold it then it all makes sense.
 
Oh OK well I'm hoping it magically appears at a store near us all ...great products need to be shared ...thanks for the info .....people .....this forum is great and I see the response time to questions is equally as great as the nexus galaxy :D
 
Fuzzy13 said:
Is the whole signal issue with aluminum really that bad? People with the One say that if your hands is covering up the signal steps on the back, you'd signal can go in and out real bad.

My main concern with aluminum would be the scratching. But honestly plastic doesn't bother me. As long as it feels good in the hand, I'm cool with it. That was the first thing I noticed when I first held my N4, it felt very solid in the hand. Was surprised honestly. You read about it but you don't actually know until you hold it then it all makes sense.
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Aluminum does hamper signal. I don't have any experience with the HTC One, but the Asus transformer prime had an all aluminum design and as a result suffered greatly in wifi, and bluetooth strength/range and made gps unusable. The successor to it, the transformer Infinity, has a plastic strip across the region where those signal receivers are.
 
Fuzzy13 said:
Is the whole signal issue with aluminum really that bad? People with the One say that if your hands is covering up the signal steps on the back, you'd signal can go in and out real bad.

My main concern with aluminum would be the scratching. But honestly plastic doesn't bother me. As long as it feels good in the hand, I'm cool with it. That was the first thing I noticed when I first held my N4, it felt very solid in the hand. Was surprised honestly. You read about it but you don't actually know until you hold it then it all makes sense.
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I never have issues with my evo LTE. The antenna is built into the back housing, but im fairly certain that particular piece is metal. I'll have to double check on that.
Edit: that particular section may be plastic. They claim its for NFC. Not necessarily radio signal

Its just even just the aluminum. Even htcs plastic flagship devices from a few years ago felt solid. Its just that particular plastic Samsung uses. Creaky battery doors, cheap feel
 
Rxpert83 said:
I never have issues with my evo LTE. The antenna is built into the back housing, but im fairly certain that particular piece is metal. I'll have to double check on that.
Edit: that particular section may be plastic. They claim its for NFC. Not necessarily radio signal

Its just even just the aluminum. Even htcs plastic flagship devices from a few years ago felt solid. Its just that particular plastic Samsung uses. Creaky battery doors, cheap feel
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Yeah I know what you mean. I liked the way the gnex felt. Not in terms of solid, but the actual plastic itself. It was so smooth that if you closed your eyes, flicked it and rubbed it you wouldn't be able to tell it was plastic. (Boy that can really be taken out of context easily lol)
The battery cover you could obviously tell it was plastic.

Whatever the sides on the n4 are made of I really like. But plastic is just fine for me. As long as its built well. :/
 
I really want them to add their own version of multi window to aosp because with a public api for it, it would have so much potential, especially on tablets.
 
No one is going to make a new nexus phone...


they introduced the whole "Nexus/Google Experience" thing with the S4, now the HTC One is getting and same with the Xperia Z...I personally think that this is what is going to happen from now on...and IMO it's a damn good thing...because Nexus devices are basically just developer devices, and having a plain vanilla [insert name of current high end device here] will not only help out with the development communities for those particular phones but also will help out with the development of Android as a whole.

just my $0.02
 
I'm sure I read a while back (when the S4 Nexus Edition was announced) that Larry Page said the Nexus line would not be stopped.

Anyway, I'm probably going to buy the HTC One Nexus Edition when it comes out or compare it to the Motorola X if we have pictures and by which one looks better. Those LG rumor pictures look nice but I don't want another glass backed phone (not that I believe what we see here will be the final device).
 
Rxpert83 said:
Google has positioned the nexus brand cheaply to get into the hands of as many as possible.

$650+ just isn't in the cards for most people.

I still believe we will see a true nexus device.

The "nexus experience" phones are not the same
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the only thing that's not the same is that they don't have the Nexus branding (whoop de doo)
and they are not subsidized prices...which most of the nexus phones from the play store are subsidized by Google...


that is literally the only difference...

I understand that the price is the big deal...because yeah...I am not dishing out more than a months rent on a friggin phone, no matter how glorious it may be...

I personally do not think they will be releasing any more nexus devices anytime soon....they are going to see how this Google/Nexus Experience program works out for them and then they'll decide...

and as for a Manufacturer of a Nexus device......how about HTC?...honestly...they have decent devices...and it is about their turn anyways right?
 
plasticarmyman said:
the only thing that's not the same is that they don't have the Nexus branding (whoop de doo)
and they are not subsidized prices...which most of the nexus phones from the play store are subsidized by Google...
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Well, it's not that the device is subsidized by Google, it's that the device is sold with a very small profit window. The GS4 and One are more expensive because Samsung and HTC are putting a much larger profit margin on the device to make money. When Google & it's partner make the Nexus device, it's sold basically at the break even point. The very small margin goes to the manufacturer, and Google breaks even and attempts to regain it through the play store.

plasticarmyman said:
I understand that the price is the big deal...because yeah...I am not dishing out more than a months rent on a friggin phone, no matter how glorious it may be...

I personally do not think they will be releasing any more nexus devices anytime soon....they are going to see how this Google/Nexus Experience program works out for them and then they'll decide...
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I don't think the Nexus devices are going to sell exceptionally well. Nexus phones don't sell well compared to the mainstream flagships and they're unlocked, off contract, and cheap. I don't think a device that's 300 dollars more expensive is going to sell any better. It will have a niche market, but it's a rather small one. The average American consumer is addicted to carrier subsidies and without them won't even consider it.

plasticarmyman said:
and as for a Manufacturer of a Nexus device......how about HTC?...honestly...they have decent devices...and it is about their turn anyways right?
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HTC did make the Nexus One 3 years ago. It was a decent device hardware wise at the time, but didn't get enough publicity to sell well. I still stand by my choice of wanting ASUS to make a Nexus phone. I would also like to see what Sony could bring to the table, but would be alright with HTC or Motorola. I just don't want another Samsung Nexus.
 
I think most people who claim that Samsung flagship phones have cheap build quality don't realize just how durable the design is and the fact that the plastic design has many advantages such as removal battery cover (something I've yet to see in glass or aluminum built phones). Something else interesting is that at great pressure on the sides of the phone the aluminum body would fly off leaving the components to die under the weight but the plastic body being more flexible would collapse in a barrier like way.
 
plasticarmyman said:
the only thing that's not the same is that they don't have the Nexus branding (whoop de doo)
and they are not subsidized prices...which most of the nexus phones from the play store are subsidized by Google...


that is literally the only difference...
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Not quite.

There's that whole android open source project thing that is a giant part of a nexus device.

I may be wrong, but I haven't seen the s4 or HTC one added to AOSP, and we likely won't because of all of the proprietary things.

Running Google android and getting updates straight from Google does not a nexus device make.

That whole open source part of it is a huge chunk that remains to be seen.
 
jhawkkw said:
Well, it's not that the device is subsidized by Google, it's that the device is sold with a very small profit window. The GS4 and One are more expensive because Samsung and HTC are putting a much larger profit margin on the device to make money. When Google & it's partner make the Nexus device, it's sold basically at the break even point. The very small margin goes to the manufacturer, and Google breaks even and attempts to regain it through the play store.



I don't think the Nexus devices are going to sell exceptionally well. Nexus phones don't sell well compared to the mainstream flagships and they're unlocked, off contract, and cheap. I don't think a device that's 300 dollars more expensive is going to sell any better. It will have a niche market, but it's a rather small one. The average American consumer is addicted to carrier subsidies and without them won't even consider it.



HTC did make the Nexus One 3 years ago. It was a decent device hardware wise at the time, but didn't get enough publicity to sell well. I still stand by my choice of wanting ASUS to make a Nexus phone. I would also like to see what Sony could bring to the table, but would be alright with HTC or Motorola. I just don't want another Samsung Nexus.
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Quoting this so it can be read again.

I agree with every single word you said sir.
 
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