Have you ever looked at a random girl at the mall and just thought...

[lunatic59]

There is nothing wrong with sexuality or a person being sexual in there nature when they are an adult.

The OP was talking about the dress and exposing parts of the body, not sexuality. It's a fairly modern concept that nudity and sexuality are intrinsically linked.

When it comes to kids it isn't appropriate in a public setting.

To them it is. You admitted to wearing clothing your parents considered inappropriate, even though the objections weren't because of your wardrobe's revealing nature. If current styles mandate teenage girls show a little "cheek", they are going to figure out how to do it.

That is what this discussion is about, teens wearing clothing that is inappropriate for them to be wearing in public and why there parents would possibly ever consider allowing them to wear such things. The clothing that the OP describes is far to revealing for most people to be wearing at a mall, but a teenager (most likely under the age of 18) wearing things like that is really too much.

So a 16 year old walking through the mall in her underwear is a scandal, but throw in some sand and a seagull or two and nobody notices. It's an arbitrary morality assigned by society and culture.

 

[HalfFrozen]

So a 16 year old walking through the mall in her underwear is a scandal, but throw in some sand and a seagull or two and nobody notices. It's an arbitrary morality assigned by society and culture.

That is like having a soldier shooting and blowing things up, freezing that frame and switching in a mall scene crowded with innocent civilians. There are places where certain things are and are not prohibited. Thats all I am saying.

 

[Vihzel]

That is like having a soldier shooting and blowing things up, freezing that frame and switching in a mall scene crowded with innocent civilians. There are places where certain things are and are not prohibited. Thats all I am saying.

Agreed.

It's like saying that it's ok for girls to be in bikinis at church or at a business meeting. For the beach... yes it's fine. In church... well, perhaps God would not necessarily approve... or would he?

 

[HalfFrozen]

Agreed.

It's like saying that it's ok for girls to be in bikinis at church or at a business meeting. For the beach... yes it's fine. In church... well, perhaps God would not necessarily approve... or would he?

Or nothing to say at all because god doesn't exi....

 

[jfenton]

I love MTV is they caused this

 

[HalfFrozen]

I love MTV is they caused this

I would to, if I was a teenager again.

 

[OfTheDamned]

The OP was talking about the dress and exposing parts of the body, not sexuality. It's a fairly modern concept that nudity and sexuality are intrinsically linked.

A teenage girl trying to show as much skin as possible in a setting like the mall is trying to show off her sexuality. She is trying to turn heads or have people notice her. Two of the definitions for sexuality are 1 - recognition of or emphasis upon sexual matters and 2 - involvement in sexual activity. The outfit described is trying to put an emphasis on the girls body in a suggestive or sexual nature which is designed to make people think of sexual activity.

To them it is. You admitted to wearing clothing your parents considered inappropriate, even though the objections weren't because of your wardrobe's revealing nature. If current styles mandate teenage girls show a little "cheek", they are going to figure out how to do it.

And the parents should be stepping in to explain why it isn't acceptable for them to do so. Mine did and while I disagreed with them for going out to clubs or concerts I did follow their rules for everyday dress. Now that I'm an adult it is my choice to dress like a street walker if I choose to or not (I don't BTW).

So a 16 year old walking through the mall in her underwear is a scandal, but throw in some sand and a seagull or two and nobody notices. It's an arbitrary morality assigned by society and culture.

As others have said, it is a time and place thing. There is a purpose for bikinis and other bathing suits at a beach, not so much at a mall. I also don't really find it appropriate for a 16 year old to be wearing a thong or other revealing bikini at the beach either. While she may have been wed and had three kids during the dark ages by 16, she would have also been dead by 25 or 30. With longevity comes a time to grow up and in this day and age a 16 year old girl (while mature) is still a child. Once she is legally an adult she can wear what she wants.

If you don't mind a 16 year old wearing a bikini at the mall, how would you feel about a 70 year old 350 lb fat harry guy in a speedo sitting next to you in the food court while you're eating?

That is like having a soldier shooting and blowing things up, freezing that frame and switching in a mall scene crowded with innocent civilians. There are places where certain things are and are not prohibited. Thats all I am saying.

Very well put.

Or nothing to say at all because god doesn't exi....

Wrong thread, let's not go there.

 

[killadanny]

I remember when MTV was about music, Jersey Shore is the death of America. Party lifestyle where no one wants to read or go to school, just party and get drunk.

 

[HalfFrozen]

I remember when MTV was about music, Jersey Shore is the death of America. Party lifestyle where no one wants to read or go to school, just party and get drunk.

Every time my wife goes to watch MTV I leave the room. lol

Jersey Shore is nothing but proof that it is nothing but a zit on Americas ass.

 

[Vihzel]

I remember when MTV was about music, Jersey Shore is the death of America. Party lifestyle where no one wants to read or go to school, just party and get drunk.

Agreed. Jersey Shore is a despicable show. MTV is all about ratings now and music videos and music programs don't bring in the ratings.

One reason why Asians are generally more successful than other races in universities... we take it a lot more seriously than others. Of course we party too, but we're very serious when we need to be. There have been very few Asians that I've met who just put college education #2 behind partying. I have met many others who thought that college was for partying and that getting Cs was good enough.

I take my college education very seriously. My parents are paying 100% (about $68k each year) for both my brother's and my out-of-state tuitions and I'm not going to just waste it on partying and getting drunk. My roommate on the other hand... parties every weekend with his in-state tuition.

It disgusts me when kids (they're not mature enough to be called adults) don't appreciate being able to go to college for free (if their parents are paying for it). Now if they were paying for it themselves, well that's their own prerogative.

 

[HTC-Fandroid]

Could be worse,




Your son could be hittin the Mall dressed like that.

 

[ekyle]

Agreed. Jersey Shore is a despicable show. MTV is all about ratings now and music videos and music programs don't bring in the ratings.

One reason why Asians are generally more successful than other races in universities... we take it a lot more seriously than others. Of course we party too, but we're very serious when we need to be. There have been very few Asians that I've met who just put college education #2 behind partying. I have met many others who thought that college was for partying and that getting Cs was good enough.

I take my college education very seriously. My parents are paying 100% (about $68k each year) for both my brother's and my out-of-state tuitions and I'm not going to just waste it on partying and getting drunk. My roommate on the other hand... parties every weekend with his in-state tuition.

It disgusts me when kids (they're not mature enough to be called adults) don't appreciate being able to go to college for free (if their parents are paying for it). Now if they were paying for it themselves, well that's their own prerogative.

My parents paying for my AS was part of my inspiration for my grades. That focus got me through my BS with honors and into SU this fall to get my MS

 

[Vihzel]

My parents paying for my AS was part of my inspiration for my grades. That focus got me through my BS with honors and into SU this fall to get my MS

Congrats!

 

[ekyle]

Congrats!

Thank you

 

[killadanny]

Every time my wife goes to watch MTV I leave the room. lol

Jersey Shore is nothing but proof that it is nothing but a zit on Americas ass.

And they're "celebrities" now hln, fox, ET...etc..

Why are we still talking about them!!

 

[killadanny]

Agreed. Jersey Shore is a despicable show. MTV is all about ratings now and music videos and music programs don't bring in the ratings.

One reason why Asians are generally more successful than other races in universities... we take it a lot more seriously than others. Of course we party too, but we're very serious when we need to be. There have been very few Asians that I've met who just put college education #2 behind partying. I have met many others who thought that college was for partying and that getting Cs was good enough.

I take my college education very seriously. My parents are paying 100% (about $68k each year) for both my brother's and my out-of-state tuitions and I'm not going to just waste it on partying and getting drunk. My roommate on the other hand... parties every weekend with his in-state tuition.

It disgusts me when kids (they're not mature enough to be called adults) don't appreciate being able to go to college for free (if their parents are paying for it). Now if they were paying for it themselves, well that's their own prerogative.

Yeah Im headed to college August 30 I just graduated and I was in awe that so many people tell me they are headed to college just to party. I was shocked that people think college is a place to let it all hang out. Of course, these were the people that slacked through high school and barely made it by. I tell people, you do realize its a school and your there to learn right? I'm also in the same boat, I never really partied and I don't really want too. My parents are paying for school so I don't want their efforts to go to waste.

 

[IOWA]

While I am sure a few of them are, I don't think a lot of these girls are wearing those clothes when they leave the house. When I was a teen (17/18) I would change in the back seat of my friends car when we went out. I had a job and paid for the clothes myself and my folks never knew I had them. Now, keep in mind that I was just wearing skirts and/or Goth (we didn't have that word in the early 90's) type clothes. I wasn't walking around mostly naked showing off everything I had and I certainly wasn't at a mall. I was just wearing clothes my parents didn't approve of (they hated me wearing all black).

Personally, I blame Britney Spears and the like for this new line of prostiteens that we have walking around. While I doubt many have the....um.....courage to do it, I think that a few people should walk up to these girls and ask them, "How much?" just to see what they say. Maybe getting confused for an actual hooker a few times will change their minds about what they are wearing.

During the teen years I was one of the "goth kids" as well. But we dressed... different than that... the girls I hung out with dressed like the guys lol.. Dark big pants, dark band t-shirts, and lot's of metal. (chains, piercings etc.) although I've never had any piercings.

I was the only "goth kid" in honors classes though, and actually, I had a teach er once ask me in my high school Trig AP class if I was in the right class

 

[byteware]

Now that I'm an adult it is my choice to dress like a street walker if I choose to or not (I don't BTW).

And she raises our hopes... and then dashes them in the same sentence.

Nice.

 

[BiGMERF]

During the teen years I was one of the "goth kids" as well. But we dressed... different than that... the girls I hung out with dressed like the guys lol.. Dark big pants, dark band t-shirts, and lot's of metal. (chains, piercings etc.) although I've never had any piercings.

I was the only "goth kid" in honors classes though, and actually, I had a teach er once ask me in my high school Trig AP class if I was in the right class

poor guy!!!! i would have bounced quickly! dammed i need to see one of your gettups!

 

[NYCHitman1]

Yeah Im headed to college August 30 I just graduated and I was in awe that so many people tell me they are headed to college just to party. I was shocked that people think college is a place to let it all hang out. Of course, these were the people that slacked through high school and barely made it by. I tell people, you do realize its a school and your there to learn right? I'm also in the same boat, I never really partied and I don't really want too. My parents are paying for school so I don't want their efforts to go to waste.

You'll come to find that it's unavoidable when you venture off to college. There's nothing wrong with a mix of socializing and keeping up w/ your studies. It's all about balance. College life is a completely different experience altogether imo. I suggest you give it a try before calling it quits before figuring out what it's all about. Afterwards, you can decide whether it's for you or not.

 

[Vihzel]

You'll come to find that it's unavoidable when you venture off to college. There's nothing wrong with a mix of socializing and keeping up w/ your studies. It's all about balance. College life is a completely different experience altogether imo. I suggest you give it a try before calling it quits before figuring out what it's all about. Afterwards, you can decide whether it's for you or not.

Well there are differences between what people call college parties. It is definitely avoidable. I've never been to a college party and don't plan to. Almost none of my friends go to college parties. When we get together, we still have a lot of fun, but it's without alcohol because none of us really drink. College parties are for certain kind of people and not for others. I classify a college party to be a bit more like a frat party. Lots of people, lots of alcohol, lots of guys trying to get laid, deafening music, and so forth.

 

[Pryomancer]

I'm 20, so the older teenage girls who do it I don't find weird, but I see the occassional 12 or 13 year old wearing miniskirts and 4 inches of makeup, I'm like :\

 

[Roze]

I'm 20, so the older teenage girls who do it I don't find weird, but I see the occassional 12 or 13 year old wearing miniskirts and 4 inches of makeup, I'm like :\

I blame it on the media/corporations brainwashing little girls to be all sexy. If they see on basically all the TV shows, the actresses are all skinny wearing sexy clothing. In the magazines (the teen ones) and see these clothes on very skinny models. They go to the store and lo and behold...there are the clothes for sales. When I was at abercrombie (kid); I remembered seeing the mannequins dressed in very short shorts or extra mini miniskirts, wearing bando tops (bikini top inspired), with blouses unbuttoned/tied Britney Spears style. And of course, there were girls picking up the same outfit to try on.

It's sad when you see kids not acting like kids. You can only be a kid once...and you have the rest of your life to be an adult. Why rush to be grown up?

What has our society have become when we basically turn blind eyes to 12/13 years old having sex (if they are both under 17, it's legal), doing drugs and drinking?

Worst...when the 5 or 6 years old girls are annorexic.

/end rant...

 

[smacky]

Well there are differences between what people call college parties. It is definitely avoidable. I've never been to a college party and don't plan to. Almost none of my friends go to college parties. When we get together, we still have a lot of fun, but it's without alcohol because none of us really drink. College parties are for certain kind of people and not for others. I classify a college party to be a bit more like a frat party. Lots of people, lots of alcohol, lots of guys trying to get laid, deafening music, and so forth.

I burned myself out on parties my freshman year and it was all thanks to not living in the dorms and going straight to the apartments. I get roomed with three juniors and in combination with their buddies I was dragged to places I thought I would never find myself. Like being one of three non-blacks at an otherwise all-black party. I went to a lingerie party once too. And yes, the beaver-to-cleaver ratio was extremely high. If I told someone I went to high school with that I did many other things in addition to the ones I mentioned above, they would be shocked.

It is definitely possible to have a good time and still stay on top of school. I know several people that are pre-med/biomedical sciences majors with me that are heading into their senior years sleeping easy and knowing they've got their spot in med school reserved with their grades and MCAT scores. I'm not exactly there yet. But I'm one of the younger kids in my grade, as people are now turning 22 and I just turned 21 not a month ago. I still got time. Or that's what I keep telling myself.

Still, I can tell you one thing: setting yourself up for three years to graduate around the 3.5 margin or above, whether you plan on working after you graduate or applying to graduate school, it's the best feeling in the world. It's better than any high, buzz, rush you'll ever get. I'd kill for that feeling right now.

/rant

I always get on the soap box when it comes to issues like this.

 

[NYCHitman1]

Well there are differences between what people call college parties. It is definitely avoidable. I've never been to a college party and don't plan to. Almost none of my friends go to college parties. When we get together, we still have a lot of fun, but it's without alcohol because none of us really drink. College parties are for certain kind of people and not for others. I classify a college party to be a bit more like a frat party. Lots of people, lots of alcohol, lots of guys trying to get laid, deafening music, and so forth.

I agree. I don't need liquor to have a good time either. We're seeing eye-to-eye on this one. I was more referring to the social drinker aspect than going to a frat house and getting trashed.