Y'all set yourselves up for the okie-doke if you so chose, but after hearing, 'The Verizon rep I talked to on the phone told me 11/17,' 'I have a very reliable source that told me we'll be getting this Black Friday,' 'My super, super, SUPER SECRET insider just told me we should be getting this on the 27th!,' and 'Pre-orders come out tomorrow! There is no debate here! I talked to someone important and this is it, guys!,' over and over again, and not seeing anything more than surmounting frustrating and disdain for Verizon, one would think we'd stop taking all of this, 'I just spoke to my cousin's dad's brother's half aunt and she said...' nonsense and wait until Verizon removes its head from its rectum and says something official.
At this point, any 'leaked' photos from an email, a spreadsheet...none of that matters. If it ain't Big Red saying, 'Its here!' or if you don't see an email from Verizon announcing its release, the rumors need to be taken as such: rumors. Stop with all of this hardcore, 'I KNOW FOR SURE THIS IS IT BECAUSE MY SISTER'S BOYFRIEND'S NIECE SAID... and thinking just because you spoke to someone who works for Verizon its fact. They are as clueless as we are. Some don't even know the phone exists, others say its being released Q1 2012, we now have a new 12/15 date with a 12/8 (its NEXT rumored date) pre-order. Where does this stop? Then you all get worked up and frustrated over nothing.
Let's take a chill pill. This is not to get anyone upset, but rather an attempt to throw some reality in this thread. Speculation is fine, but when it gets this ridiculous it needs to stop, IMHO.