tom76
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I've heard something similar...but...since this is a dev device and it is taking up real-estate on the home screen i'm sure someone will find a way to use it to our liking!...wishful but realistic thinking!
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I've heard something similar...but...since this is a dev device and it is taking up real-estate on the home screen i'm sure someone will find a way to use it to our liking!...wishful but realistic thinking!
tom76
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both rooting and unlocking the bootloader WILL void your warranty!
crt134
Android Enthusiast
Some Android phones let you root without unlocking the bootloader, and on some, you can't unlock the bootloader anyway.
Having root on a locked bootloader is like wearing nice shoes with dirty socks.
It may look good but you miss a good part of the experience.
Having root on a locked bootloader is like wearing nice shoes with dirty socks.
It may look good but you miss a good part of the experience.
Some Android phones let you root without unlocking the bootloader, and on some, you can't unlock the bootloader anyway.
Having root on a locked bootloader is like wearing nice shoes with dirty socks.
It may look good but you miss a good part of the experience.
so where do kernels fit in with all of this?
crt134
Android Enthusiast
Some Android phones let you root without unlocking the bootloader, and on some, you can't unlock the bootloader anyway.
Having root on a locked bootloader is like wearing nice shoes with dirty socks.
It may look good but you miss a good part of the experience.
I've never rooted any of my devices but I'm really tempted to with the nexus, just for the simple facts that it will be less risky, and I love to tinker with stuff. Still not sure I'll end up doing it but it sure is tempting!
tom76
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You HAVE to have an UNLOCKED bootloader to flash a kernel!!!
PerCompLLC
Android Enthusiast
Not sure if the final word has been posted yet (just got up to go to the gym), but here is the link to the Verge and the leaked VZW email. Enjoy.
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/6/2614824/verizon-galaxy-nexus-on-sale-december-9
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/6/2614824/verizon-galaxy-nexus-on-sale-december-9
pcriz
Android Enthusiast
I will say this as far as MODs to your phone.
Side loaded app (Apps downloaded from sources other than the market)
-Can be uninstalled
-Should pay extra attention to the Permissions especially if they are asking for Root privs
ROMs and MODs
-Make sure the MOD/ROM is supported by your software version
-Always back up your phone (Titanium Backup, Clockwork Recovery Mod)
-Always research a reverse path. (Can I return my phone to a "factory state")
Also I am not saying that if you brick your phone that you should return it and say it is factory defect, BUT if say something happens like pixels start dying or battery isn't chargering and you want to return it. Make sure to remove any custom recoveries, unroot, lock bootloader.
Apparently they are checking on ANY return regardless of the issue and charging full price for replacements.
SamMax
Android Expert
These are both excellent reasons to root. As long as there is a way to unroot in case of warranty problems, I have no qualms about going against verizon's limitations.
Google Wallet is one of the significance selling points of the nfc feature of this phone and Verizon blocks it? I guess I can't be too surprised.
Think of your bootloader as analogous to the bios on your PC. (just analogous to, but not identical)
Normal function is to manage the system memory layout and to boot the Android OS.
Android is a compact Linux plus the Dalvik VM (virtual machine) and system applications that run inside the Dalvik VM (as will all of your apps).
The Linux operating system, like all operating systems you know (including Mac or Windows) consist of task management, services and a kernel.
The kernel is the foundation that ties services to the hardware. (It's ok to think of device drivers as glue between services and the kernel.)
Android (Linux (including the kernel) plus Dalvik VM plus apps) is contained in a payload that we call a ROM (that's slang because it's not really read-only memory).
All ROMs include a kernel, and often a replacement kernel can be installed separately provided it is compatible with the rest of the ROM.
Hope this helps!
pcriz
Android Enthusiast
Careful, I think talk of tethering and not paying (by way of apps or rooting) is shunned here.. I practice frequently though
Think of your bootloader as analogous to the bios on your PC. (just analogous to, but not identical)
Normal function is to manage the system memory layout and to boot the Android OS.
Android is a compact Linux plus the Dalvik VM (virtual machine) and system applications that run inside the Dalvik VM (as will all of your apps).
The Linux operating system, like all operating systems you know (including Mac or Windows) consist of task management, services and a kernel.
The kernel is the foundation that ties services to the hardware. (It's ok to think of device drivers as glue between services and the kernel.)
Android (Linux (including the kernel) plus Dalvik VM plus apps) is contained in a payload that we call a ROM (that's slang because it's not really read-only memory).
All ROMs include a kernel, and often a replacement kernel can be installed separately provided it is compatible with the rest of the ROM.
Hope this helps!
Thanks for ALL your help Mon.
OfTheDamned
The Friendly Undead
Good grief! I finished all my mod work and I'm finally caught up with the thread and it just about wiped me out. I have to say thanks to all of you that have commented about appreciating what we as mods do on this site. Since this is all voluntary on our part it does mean a lot.
It is also nice to see that after a bad night of poker I can come back here and get some good news. Only a few more days!!!!!
Well, it is late and my coffin is calling so hello and good night all.
It is also nice to see that after a bad night of poker I can come back here and get some good news. Only a few more days!!!!!
Well, it is late and my coffin is calling so hello and good night all.
Gravytrain
Android Enthusiast
Is this official confirmation or are we still just going off of leaks?
Namrak
Android Expert
Leaked email and pics no official word yet
Gravytrain
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Gravytrain
Android Enthusiast
We'll more than likely never know the answer to that...
hi guys!
im a first time android buyer here. upgrading from a 5 year old flip phone to the G-Nexus. so excited!
i have a question about the bootloader. i am 100% new to android but not new to tech. i want the full functionality of my phone. tethering, primarily.
any tips and tricks for a newbie? and my only other question is- with the nexus, unlocking the bootloader is akin to rooting right? will doing so alter the ICS experience in any way? i want to experience the ICS that everyone is raving about but i really want to be able to tether.
thanks in advance!
im a first time android buyer here. upgrading from a 5 year old flip phone to the G-Nexus. so excited!
i have a question about the bootloader. i am 100% new to android but not new to tech. i want the full functionality of my phone. tethering, primarily.
any tips and tricks for a newbie? and my only other question is- with the nexus, unlocking the bootloader is akin to rooting right? will doing so alter the ICS experience in any way? i want to experience the ICS that everyone is raving about but i really want to be able to tether.
thanks in advance!
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