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Root Universal Eris Root for Dummies!

i've done everything correctly but after i flashed the plain jane rom, and everything goes smooth but then i'm having boot loops like the ERIS screen will come up then the Plain Jane on top of it will appear then it will just repeat itself...

what is wrong?
 
ilikemyeris said:
i've done everything correctly but after i flashed the plain jane rom, and everything goes smooth but then i'm having boot loops like the ERIS screen will come up then the Plain Jane on top of it will appear then it will just repeat itself...

what is wrong?
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My first guess is that you forgot do the "Wipe data/factory reset" step immediately prior to the step where you flash the ROM from the .zip on the SD card.

Charge your phone well, go back in to Amon_RA recovery, perform only those two steps, and reboot; keep your eyes peeled for any messages which appear on the screen that start with "E:"

Report your results.

eu1
 
I've done the wipe and factory reset option multiple times then went and flashed the rom would factory resetting on the phone itself instead of doing it in recovery mode help?
 
erisuser1 said:
nyccharlie,

I will answer your question - reluctantly, but first, yet another cranky complaint from eu1: your question is off-topic, and would be better placed in either a more relevant thread, or a new topic that you start. Don't be afraid to start your own threads - just make sure to give them a title which relates to the question you are asking.



Yes and no.

If you try it the way you describe it, no. The reason for that is that the baked-in goodness/badness of apps2sd starts during the booting process - so you need things inside the boot partition to make it all hang together correctly so it will start correctly from boot-up.

Also, you will need to carefully review the script to make sure that all the dependencies it needs are satisfied - my bet is that may require a version of busybox to be installed on the phone, too.

It is possible, however to preserve your existing OS and slip in a different boot image right underneath it. You might want to do this anyway, as it would give you an opportunity to use a new kernel with overclocking (The kernel is part of the "boot.img" file). Just make sure that you use an Android 2.1 ROM for the source of your apps2sd/a2sd scripts and "boot.img"

If you try this, make absolutely sure that you create good Nandroid backups before you begin. What I would recommend is that you use a2sd/apps2d and a boot image from the same ROM.

You can manually install a new boot image (after you make a Nandroid backup!) via adb with Amon_RA booted:

- boot Amon_RA, then:
Code: 
adb shell mount /sdcard
adb push boot.img /sdcard/new_boot.img
adb shell md5sum /sdcard/new_boot.img
( do not proceed if the MD5 signature is not valid )
adb shell flash_image boot /sdcard/new_boot.img
adb shell rm /sdcard/new_boot.img
adb shell umount /sdcard
Maybe I will put together a related post about doing similar things - in an easier way (not apps2sd specific, though)

eu1
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I'm relativley new to the rooting thing. i have no idea about coding so i'm sure i'd fudge that up if i tried. it sounds like alot of fun though. :) might have to learn using a vm of ubuntu.
 
I'm having problems transferring the zip file to my phone, when it's done transferring the size of it wouldn't be the same as the original file on my computer.

How do i fix??
 
ilikemyeris said:
I'm having problems transferring the zip file to my phone, when it's done transferring the size of it wouldn't be the same as the original file on my computer.

How do i fix??
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Make sure you are using "Safely Remove Hardware" on the PC after you copy the file but before you turn off "Disk Drive Mode" on the Eris. Don't yank the USB cable.

The only time when you do not need to do this - for any storage device, be it a USB key/thumbdrive, external HD, or Camera, is when you turn off Write Caching for that device (Win 7)

It is safest to just use that control every time.

eu1
 
Ok, so after reading numerous posts and articles on rooting, kernels and roms...and deciding that this looks like the most competent and current info, my question is this:

If by following original posted instructions, will (1) I be able to over clock my wife
 
Yutt said:
Ok, so after reading numerous posts and articles on rooting, kernels and roms...and deciding that this looks like the most competent and current info, my question is this:

If by following original posted instructions, will (1) I be able to over clock my wife
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mhotovec said:
Yes, once rooted the Eris can be overclocked. However some (many?) of us are finding that with a decent ROM overclocking is not necessary.

Yes her contacts will come back IF (!) they are set up as 'Google' contacts. If they are 'Phone' then they won't be restored.
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Great, thanks...next question. User friendly rom suggestions *for my wife?
 
Let me start off by saying I am sorry for being a dummie. So I try to read up on the Root for Eris for Dummies, but the hole just keeps getting deeper, every step brings me to another thread and I am getting more confused. I am even confused on downloading the Plain Jane ROM, with different options from the link on first post. So I am not sure what I am downloading ? !! I am a total noobie as everyone can tell. Is there a very very dumb down thread step by step to root the Eris. Then theres the A Ron Recovery, nandroid recovery and titanium backup and other special wipes I need to do. It's making my head hurt. I only want my phone to work like a regular phone, so damm slow. It is so slow when I press call and it dont do anything, I press it again and after some time, the stupid phone has placed 2 calls to the same number. What happened to my phone ? Maybe it's beyond my capabilities. I am thinking of not pursuing this rooting thing any further.
 
914 said:
Let me start off by saying I am sorry for being a dummie. So I try to read up on the Root for Eris for Dummies, but the hole just keeps getting deeper, every step brings me to another thread and I am getting more confused. I am even confused on downloading the Plain Jane ROM, with different options from the link on first post. So I am not sure what I am downloading ? !! I am a total noobie as everyone can tell. Is there a very very dumb down thread step by step to root the Eris. Then theres the A Ron Recovery, nandroid recovery and titanium backup and other special wipes I need to do. It's making my head hurt. I only want my phone to work like a regular phone, so damm slow. It is so slow when I press call and it dont do anything, I press it again and after some time, the stupid phone has placed 2 calls to the same number. What happened to my phone ? Maybe it's beyond my capabilities. I am thinking of not pursuing this rooting thing any further.
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914,

You are not a dummie. There's a ton of information to absorb and understand (really). Don't give up hope...there's lots of folks around here that would be happy to help. Its getting a smidge late for me to hang through the rest of the night, but let me try to make the picture a little clearer for you.

1. First, to get root, you have to replace the stock recovery partition on the phone with a custom one (usually Amon_RAs). This custom recovery partition, when you boot it, will present you with a simple menu that will allow you do special things to your phone like flash (install) new software or even an entire Android operating system (i.e., a custom ROM).

It will also let you make a snapshot backup of your phone which is called a Nand (or Nandroid) backup. You can later restore from this backup should anything untoward happen to your phone.

2. To get the stock recovery installed, you have to utilize a "root exploit". This took quite a while for the devs to figure-out, but there is a pretty simple and clever one discovered by wag3slav3 over at XDA. This exploit works by re-securing the recovery partition (where the stock recovery resides) to allow it to be over-written with the custom (Amon_RA's) recovery.

3. This exploit is identically used by both jcase's "1-click" (http://androidforums.com/eris-all-t...is-app-apk-no-pcs-no-scripts-needed-easy.html) method and erisuser1's "universal" (http://androidforums.com/eris-all-things-root/127861-universal-eris-root-dummies.html) method (as well as surgeon0214's "detailed" (http://androidforums.com/eris-all-t...ed-leak-root-tutorial.html?highlight=detailed) method).

The only basic difference between all of them is the amount of detail in the instructions and the amount of work and interaction from the user.

4. At some point in each of the above methods, you will be asked to reboot your phone in "recovery mode" so that you can flash (install) either a custom ROM (such as PlainJaneT2) or a special "update.zip" type of file (such as rootme.zip or engtools3.zip).

The difference between these two types of things you flash are that the custom ROMs will replace the entire Android O/S of your phone and the special "update.zip"-type files (rootme.zip or engtools3.zip) will simply install the su program and SuperUser app on your phone, preserving your current phone's O/S and giving you root capability. Note: there are other "update.zip"-type files that do other things (i.e., install / update other programs and files), but I didn't want to get too deep into that.

5. That's basically it. Once you've got the custom recovery installed and decided to either replace your O/S with a custom rooted ROM or to simply do an in-place root (via the rootme.zip or the engtools3.zip)--you are rooted.

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There are other details that you should be aware of:

1. If you do not install a custom ROM, you will not be able to overclock right away. You will have to flash (install) an updated, overclockable kernel and acquire and use the setCPU utility. Also, if you do not install a custom ROM, you do not have to do any "wipes" (see below), but you should do/take Nandroid backups at the appropriate time.

2. Not all custom ROMs have implemented overclocking in the same way, but you should at least be able to overclock to a safe speed of 710MHz (which is usually acceptable for most folks).

3. You should always make a Nand(roid) backup before flashing anything on your phone. So, at the earliest moment that you are able to make a Nandroid backup after you've rooted, you should do so. Then, before you do anything "scary" (yeah ;)), you should take a Nandroid backup first so that you can restore should you need to. See figures 33-37 in this very same thread for awesome instructions and pictures regarding doing and how to do this.

4. You will see instructions about doing "wipes" on your phone before flashing a custom ROM. This is a process where you are removing files that your previous O/S had used and the removal of which will keep the next custom ROM's O/S from getting confused. There are two types that you do "Wipe data/factory reset" (which should always be done before flashing a new ROM) and "Wipe Dalvik-cache" (which doesn't always have to be run but doesn't hurt if you do). These wipes are done via the custom recovery discussed earlier. See figures 38-39 in this very same thread for awesome instructions and pictures regarding doing and how to do this.

5. I would urge you to re-read eu1's first four posts in this thread. He does a better job than anyone in explaining what is going on, why its being done, and how to do it. You can and should also read through the other root method's threads to compare and contrast. This will reinforce your overall understanding. You will actually learn the most by actually doing it. :D

That's all I got for now...sleep calls...hope this helps a little. I'll check back tomorrow to see if you have any additional questions. Cheers!
 
First off I want to say THANK YOU Scary Alien for staying up late and typing up that extensive reply to me. I am sorry I kept you up. So I feel a little braver today. I guess I just had to sleep on it.

One question I had was the step where to check the files MD5 checksum. I am a bit lost on that. What am I checking the gscript file or the Plain Jane ROM file. Am I checking it at the megaupload site or the file on my computer as compared to the checksum afterwards on my SD card ?

So I am ready to pull the trigger so do speak

Thank You
 
914 said:
First off I want to say THANK YOU Scary Alien for staying up late and typing up that extensive reply to me. I am sorry I kept you up. So I feel a little braver today. I guess I just had to sleep on it.

One question I had was the step where to check the files MD5 checksum. I am a bit lost on that. What am I checking the gscript file or the Plain Jane ROM file. Am I checking it at the megaupload site or the file on my computer as compared to the checksum afterwards on my SD card ?

So I am ready to pull the trigger so do speak

Thank You
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No problem...I was working on something anyway that was keeping me up. Funny enough, its related to your MD5 sum question (:D). Read through this thread: http://androidforums.com/htc-droid-...checksums.html?highlight=verify+md5+checksums

You want to check the completeness of the files that you've downloaded from outside sources (aren't they all outside sources? ;)). The MD5 sums (and the file's size) just let you know that you've got a full, complete, and uncorrupted file. Hopefully, the publisher of the file has posted the MD5 sum and size of the file so you can check on it after you download it and after you put it on your phone (/sdcard) (or where ever it ends-up being).

I'm assuming you meant the file "PlainJaneT2_v2.0.zip", right? Here's it file size (bytes): 104,734,809 and here's its MD5 sum: 561481120922708b1fc8139204fdd948

Its a good idea to check all files, but the larger ones like ROMs tend to be more problematic since folks don't always do a "safe eject" in Windows to make sure that every last byte gets transferred before the connection to your phone is closed.

Hope this helps. Good luck, you'll be fine (especially since it looks like you are using erisuser1's thread (very nice, eh?)).
 
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Opps Sorry - Flashing Recovery Image- error writing recovery : persmission denied message on step rooting part 2. Fig 31 Am I screwed ?
 
Only thing I can think of I have messed up is in order to prevent the screen from timing out out I pressed on the body of the script. But I did not add anything. Can start over or ?

I re-read forgot to turn off the phone between steps 1 and 2. I will turn ON phone and hope thats it.

Update: Still no go after turning phone off and on. Do I need to wait longer with power off or need to pull the battery.

I will wait for instructions from the experts.

Thank You.
 
914 said:
Only thing I can think of I have messed up is in order to prevent the screen from timing out out I pressed on the body of the script. But I did not add anything. Can start over or ?

I re-read forgot to turn off the phone between steps 1 and 2. I will turn ON phone and hope thats it.

Update: Still no go after turning phone off and on. Do I need to wait longer with power off or need to pull the battery.

I will wait for instructions from the experts.

Thank You.
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Sorry, I saw your post in my email and thought you were okay...then I refreshed the page and saw your edit ;).

You have to reboot (turn off and back on) after root_part1 is done--this allows root_part2 to actually install your custom recovery.

Just go back and re-start from figure 28 where you invoke root_part1 (also, see the paragraph right before figure 28...eu1 thought of everything, didn't he?).
 
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THANK YOU Scary Alien, I DID IT, I rooted and running Plain Jane, trying to remember how to setup my yahoo mail ? I hope I can copy the settings from my wifes phone. Now I can go to sleep better tonight.

Thank you so much scary alien. You were my crutch on this very scary procedure. Hope you have a nice Labor Day !!!!!!!!!

Thank You, Thank You, Thank You !!!!

:)
 
914 said:
THANK YOU Scary Alien, I DID IT, I rooted and running Plain Jane, trying to remember how to setup my yahoo mail ? I hope I can copy the settings from my wifes phone. Now I can go to sleep better tonight.

Thank you so much scary alien. You were my crutch on this very scary procedure. Hope you have a nice Labor Day !!!!!!!!!

Thank You, Thank You, Thank You !!!!

:)
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Congratulations and welcome to root! (w00t!)

I was no problem at all! :D [be sure to thank erisuser1, too...he actually did all of the heavy-lifting].

I was waiting for you just to make sure all was okay. You learned a lot, didn't you? I'm sure you were as, let's call it "anxious" ;), as I was when I rooted (but I didn't know eu1 yet and did it the "old fashioned way" (well, it was actually a combination of methods, lol)).

You picked a very good ROM (I've heard lots of good things about PJT2).

Have a great Labor Day weekend and enjoy your rooted phone!

Cheers!

P.S. If you have any other questions or issues, just search for another, related thread or start a new one of your own. There are tons of great folks out there that would be happy to help you.

P.P.S. a great search tip that I use all of the time: launch Google in your browser and enter "site:androidforums.com/eris-all-things-root xxxxxx" where "xxxxxx" is the term or phrase you want to search for. You'll get better "hits" with this method sometimes than the standard forum search.
 
I have possibly a stupid question, but I can't find anyone that talks about this. I rooted my phone and installed a custom ROM and I feel that my phone actually works better! Smoother texting, no more keyboard lag, its awesome.
My question is this, since I wiped my phone, how do I go about intalling a different ROM? Is this process easier now that my phone has already been rooted?

HELP PLEASE!
 
DaveTheDeceiver said:
I have possibly a stupid question, but I can't find anyone that talks about this. I rooted my phone and installed a custom ROM and I feel that my phone actually works better! Smoother texting, no more keyboard lag, its awesome.
My question is this, since I wiped my phone, how do I go about intalling a different ROM? Is this process easier now that my phone has already been rooted?

HELP PLEASE!
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The same way you installed the first ROM (but without the initial rooting steps).

- Download the ROM you are interested in, plus any other .zip files recommended by the developer on his/her announcement page. Move them to the top folder of your SD card.

- Charge phone very well (>80%)

- Boot to Amon_RA recovery. and then do these 3 steps:

- Perform a Nandroid backup (so you can restore back to the same spot later if needed)

- Wipe data/factory reset

- Flash .zip file from SD card (plus any "extras" recommended by the dev, if any)


Done. Reboot your phone and wait 5 or 6 minutes.

Please be on the lookout for any messages that begin with "E:" while using Amon_RA

"E:" means [SIZE=+2]ERROR[/SIZE]


eu1


PS. To say that this hasn't been covered before is ludicrous; it's the fourth post of this very thread, with copious pictures and explanations.
 
Blizzard said:
I have loaded gscript to the SD card. How do I launch it?

I am stuck at "figure 19".

Thanks!!
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Blizzard, its also an app that you download from the Market (it is a little confusing that there is a "Gscript Lite" app and a "gscript.zip" file, but they are two separate, but related things). The "gscript.zip" file contains scripts that the Gscript Lite app will use in these rooting method.

Check post #1 where it says:

Code: 
Before you get started, please review this checklist:
 
1) Did you choose a ROM, download it to your SD card, and check the MD5
   signature/file length on the copy of the file on your SD card?
 
[COLOR=blue]2) Did you install from the market the free apps "Gscript Lite" and [/COLOR]
[COLOR=blue]   "EStrongs File Manager"?[/COLOR]
 
3) Did you download the "[COLOR=red]gscript.zip[/COLOR]" file (link above) using the phone's 
   browser?

There's lots of little steps and details, but you should be fine. Cheers!
 
Just like everyone else who used this thread to root their phone, I want to say thank you so much! I rooted my Eris last night and it has never been better! I'm really enjoying it!
 
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