Who's planning to get the HTC Evo 3D

[novox77]

But FocusFreak's point is that there's more than one reason to choose between the two phones.

Sometimes when a given phone (like the Evo) suits us so well, we tend to gloss over some of those features that someone else might not prefer. I admit that I'm guilty of this as well. I think the screen size at 4.3 is ideal and that the phone size/weight isn't a big deal.

 

[partridge]

But this is where HTC and their competitors win out; they offer a range of handsets to choose from so you get the phone that best suits your needs, unlike a certain fruit variety of phone that clearly knows better than you do and releases a one size is all you get handset.

I like choice!

 

[SamuraiBigEd]

But FocusFreak's point is that there's more than one reason to choose between the two phones.

Sometimes when a given phone (like the Evo) suits us so well, we tend to gloss over some of those features that someone else might not prefer. I admit that I'm guilty of this as well. I think the screen size at 4.3 is ideal and that the phone size/weight isn't a big deal.

I know, just adding my 2 cents.

 

[cmanbrazil]

How many people on here watch movies on their evo's? How do you get the movies to your phone? Who is going to deliver multimedia content to this phone?

If it weren't for a friend giving me movies I could put on my sd card I wouldn't have any movies on my phone and i would be stuck watching youtube videos. And movies on this phone play very well, although I would appreciate a louder speaker.

If the evo 3d becomes a better multimedia device, how i am going to access podcasts, movies, music, etc?

Also, will the frame rates be better on this phone?

 

[partridge]

HTC are launching HTC Watch, a service which will allow you to buy and rent tv and movie content.

A lot of movie blockbusters are made in 3D and here we have a 3D capable device capable of showing them. Sounds like HTC Watch is something to keep an eye on..

 

[EarlyMon]

You can get Blockbuster movies now on your Evo - kinda makes me wonder now if other services like Blockbuster will be included with HTC Watch or if it'll be an either-or thing.

 

[lordofthereef]

I just wonder how much updates matter to the general public as opposed to us Android fanatics. I think we'll know based on well Nexus S sells. If phones with UI overlays are so behind and people migrate to Nexus en masse, then I think we'll see better update times (or even a revamp on how inflexible overlays are coded).

It matters to the general public when they catch wind that another competitor (namely iPhone) can do something new and cool that their phone cannot. I think integrated google video chat is going to be a big thing... one that CAN very well be better out of the box than Apple's facetime is currently.

But, I think the general public is at least aware of updates, even if they don't know what's in them. Whenever I run across someone with an iPhone (techie or not), and ask them what makes them choose iPhone, the most common answer (outside of it being "easy") is the fact that it is constantly being updated and there is no wait for updates.

There is definitely a perceived value in updates for the general populous. The update may not actually do anything noticeably different from the previous patch, but as long as those version numbers are the latest, people are happy.

 

[EarlyMon]

Also, will the frame rates be better on this phone?

The more I think about it, the better this question gets.

There's been recent controversy that frame rates as measured by benchmarks - and as allowed by device - ought be constrained to not exceed the screen refresh (or update) rate - typically 60 Hz.

Given this is a 3D device and given we don't know how it works, will the screen refresh (update) rate be 60 Hz - or 120 Hz?

 

[novox77]

Given this is a 3D device and given we don't know how it works, will the screen refresh (update) rate be 60 Hz - or 120 Hz?

well 120hz would imply that 1 field is left image, and the other field is right image. The two fields represent one frame of the video, which results in 60 frames a second. But I think this setup is only necessary for active-shutter glasses 3D. Evo is autostereoscopic, so how would the phone give field 1 solely to left eye and field 2 solely to right eye? That would imply moving lenticular lenses that tilt back and forth at 120hz, which seems too complicated to me, not to mention power-hungry and prone to mechanical failure...

 

[EarlyMon]

Perhaps you're right -

Dynamic Resolution in GPU-Accelerated Volume Rendering to Autostereoscopic Multiview Lenticular Displays

Then again,

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7646537.html

 

[novox77]

if the Evo 3D was using field-sequential autostereoscopic display, it could be refreshing at 120hz... wow at the complicatedness of achieving that tho...

The display includes a display panel including display elements which display images, a lenticular array receiving a signal from the display panel and outputting a directional signal to be viewed with both eyes of a viewer, an anisotropic element arranged parallel to the lenticular array and outputting from the lenticular array a phase-alternated signal, a polarization switch switching the output phase of the anisotropic element according to an image refresh rate of the display panel, and a polarizer outputting a signal with a predetermined phase among phases of an output signal of the polarization switch.

So the argument against field sequential is that you could utilize the Evo's full resolution... Instead, 3D videos are scaled down, as are the images. Not sure if that's for space-saving purposes or a limitation of the 3d tech.

 

[EarlyMon]

Limitation resulting from rush to market in 2010, creating legacy constraints, or just an engineering compromise to support existing bandwidth venues, who knows?

We live in interesting times.

 

[ARR22]

Not liking that the thing looks beefier then the OG Evo. Im going to the HTC Sensation same specs (excluding 3D) but is thinner and sleeker and doesnt look like a late 80's mini cassette recorder.

 

[RichboyJhae]

Not liking that the thing looks beefier then the OG Evo. Im going to the HTC Sensation same specs (excluding 3D) but is thinner and sleeker and doesnt look like a late 80's mini cassette recorder.

Reviews claim it feels much better in the hand than the OG EVO, probably due to the more narrow screen. They're also of the same dimensions, so I wouldn't say it's beefier by any means. And lol at the cassette recorder, I honestly think the back looks cool. As for the Sensation...

Lol, had to.

 

[ARR22]

Reviews claim it feels much better in the hand than the OG EVO, probably due to the more narrow screen. They're also of the same dimensions, so I wouldn't say it's beefier by any means. And lol at the cassette recorder, I honestly think the back looks cool. As for the Sensation...

Lol, had to.

Yeah it may look cool to you but taste is subjective. To me the thing looks hideous. Not to mention Wimax sucks camel's balls. The Sensation is a solid device made by HTC. Im a big fan of HTC and wont own anything other then HTC. But the EVO 3D is just not my batch of biscuits.

 

[EarlyMon]

The screen is only 0.1" narrower than the Evo, so I don't understand the review comments.

 

[RichboyJhae]

Yeah it may look cool to you but taste is subjective. To me the thing looks hideous. Not to mention Wimax sucks camel's balls. The Sensation is a solid device made by HTC. Im a big fan of HTC and wont own anything other then HTC. But the EVO 3D is just not my batch of biscuits.

I totally understand where you're coming from. I'm not trying to convince you the EVO3D looks "cool" lol, I'll leave that to you. And haha, would you prefer T-Mobile's "4G"?

 

[RichboyJhae]

The screen is only 0.1" narrower than the Evo, so I don't understand the review comments.

I'd say don't knock it until you hold the phone. Notice the curvature now extends further to the edges of the phone, which may be more comfortable to grip, as opposed to the 4G, where the bezel widens and it gets towards the back of the phone, then makes an edge where the back begins to curve in.

 

[EarlyMon]

I'd say don't knock it until you hold the phone. Notice the curvature now extends further to the edges of the phone, which may be more comfortable to grip, as opposed to the 4G, where the bezel widens and it gets towards the back of the phone, then makes an edge where the back begins to curve in.

Fine - but that has about zero to do with the way reviewers are insisting the feel is different because the screen is so much narrower. My point stands.

 

[themuffinman75]

Lol, had to.

LOL, that was funny as hell. Anyway personally I do like the overall look of the sensation in comparison to the 3d but not by much.

 

[ARR22]

I totally understand where you're coming from. I'm not trying to convince you the EVO3D looks "cool" lol, I'll leave that to you. And haha, would you prefer T-Mobile's "4G"?

I could care less about 4G, since Im used to not having it with the EVO. Plus Tmobile doesnt even have true 4G, although it does perform better then WiMax where you can get it.


And whats up with the EVO 3D having just a 5mp camera?

 

[RichboyJhae]

I could care less about 4G, since Im used to not having it with the EVO. Plus Tmobile doesnt even have true 4G, although it does perform better then WiMax where you can get it.


And whats up with the EVO 3D having just a 5mp camera?

Well you were making a pretty hefty deal about it last post saying that the EVO gets points off because its 4G sucks, I figured you'd have some affinity for 4G.

And Mega-pixels don't matter in such context. I assure you the 3D's cameras will be heaps and bounds better than the EVO's. If you don't believe me, take a look at the G2's 5 mega-pixel shooter. It performs much better than the EVO's 8 mega-pixel camera, and I expect the EVO 3D to be even better.

 

[ARR22]

Well you were making a pretty hefty deal about it last post saying that the EVO gets points off because its 4G sucks, I figured you'd have some affinity for 4G.

And Mega-pixels don't matter in such context. I assure you the 3D's cameras will be heaps and bounds better than the EVO's. If you don't believe me, take a look at the G2's 5 mega-pixel shooter. It performs much better than the EVO's 8 mega-pixel camera, and I expect the EVO 3D to be even better.

It does get points off because a 3.5G network grossly outperforms Sprints 4G network. I have the G2 and the pics taken are just about equal. But what the extra 3 mega pixels allows me to do is crop and cut in photo shop without sacrificing to much resolution. So yes megapixels do matter for people who like to enlarge and edit pictures.

Although I probably will still buy the EVO 3D just because I like Sprint (other then their piss poor wimax) and Im a Android/HTC Junkie. LOL

 

[FocusFreak]

Besides, Apple might come out with a 3D phone...ole beans.

Nope, but the next iPad might be 3D...

 

[novox77]

But what the extra 3 mega pixels allows me to do is crop and cut in photo shop without sacrificing to much resolution. So yes megapixels do matter for people who like to enlarge and edit pictures

You're confusing image size with image quality. Image quality is determined by how well the camera lens resolves the light onto the sensors. You need enough pixels to capture that resolved light. In cell phone cameras, the limiting factor is the lens. About 2mp can fully capture the detail. Adding more megapixels just increases the final image size, but the image quality is still the same. That means if you shrink down your 8mp photo to a 2mp size in photoshop, it will look just as good as a native 2mp photo.

Conversely, you can scale up the native 2mp to 8mp, and it will look just as "good" as the 8mp native. I put quotes around good because when you upscale, you are actually reducing the image quality at the pixel level. Which goes to show that at 8mp, the image is just magnifying the imperfection of the lens.

So if you want to crop and resize your photos in photoshop, just scale your 5mp image up to 8mp, apply a sharpen filter, and then crop it. It will look just as good as a native phone 8mp.

Don't fall for the megapixel gimmick. Cell phone glass (lenses) don't deserve anything higher than 2mp, which is 1080p resolution. And until the Evo can produce a photo sharper than my blu-ray 1080p movies, I'd argue the Evo only needed a 1mp sensor.