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***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

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GUYS!

1. Steven wth? i just noticed that your avator on phandroid is yoda with a green light sabor? WTH? STAY WITH RED!

2. so i decided to stay up and watch the announcement live with you guys!
-> 2.1 could someone of you pls send me the link to the Livechat that you'll be in
-> 2.2 the announcement is 4:00 am in germany and i'll try to stay awake
-> 2.3 well usually i'd have to go to school tomorrow to write one of my examninations, but please... i guess the announcement takes at least 1 hour + the time it takes to upload some hands-on-videos... so screw it! i'll pretend to be ill tomorrow and get an certification by my doctor...

can i get some THANKS for my for my loyal attitude? :D
 
I can't believer we're actually going to know SOMETHING about the Nexus 3!
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r4yN said:
GUYS!

1. Steven wth? i just noticed that your avator on phandroid is yoda with a green light sabor? WTH? STAY WITH RED!

2. so i decided to stay up and watch the announcement live with you guys!
-> 2.1 could someone of you pls send me the link to the Livechat that you'll be in
-> 2.2 the announcement is 4:00 am in germany and i'll try to stay awake
-> 2.3 well usually i'd have to go to school tomorrow to write one of my examninations, but please... i guess the announcement takes at least 1 hour + the time it takes to upload some hands-on-videos... so screw it! i'll pretend to be ill tomorrow and get an certification by my doctor...

can i get some THANKS for my for my loyal attitude? :D
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Thanks!!!

And the link for the livechat is on the first page of this thread
 
Medion said:
That's not how it works, but you're on the right track. Basically, processors are binned. They come out on a wafer, and the ones closer to the center are the ones closer to being "perfect." So, the ones on the outside would be your initial release (higher quality) 4430 cores going at 1.0ghz. The variety towards the middle (we're talking a wafer here, so by middle, I mean between the center and the edge) will be your 4430s capable of 1.2+ghz. These come later due to building quantity. Lastly, the ones towards the center are the highest quality chips, so they'll be 4460s rated at 1.5ghz. These are the rarest ones, so it could be months after the first 4430 comes out that these get sampled and sold to OEMs.

So, they're not engineered to have better speed and heat management, per se, they just do because of the way they come off the platter. It is more than possible to get a first-run 4430 capable of more than 1ghz (overclock it), but the ones that can reliably hit 1.5ghz are obscenely rare from that batch.

EDIT: Battery draw will be about the same, clock for clock. There will have to be other battery tricks by the OEM in software (or a larger battery) to get better battery performance.

EDIT 2: Chips can almost always go higher than their rated speeds. However, in order for an OEM to make the highest return on investment, they need higher yields, so they set the rated speed low. That's why the first batch ran at 1.0ghz, and the second at 1.2ghz. If they had waited until they had enough 1.2ghz chips to ship, all of the 1.0s would have been discarded (or used in other electronics), and the cost per chip to the OEM would be much higher. This is why one person's phone may have more overclocking headroom than another's. This will be my last edit, as I can go on and on with examples on this stuff. I'll just end with the Radeon 9800Pro/XT being my favorite binned part, because back then, a smart person could get a $400 GPU for $200 :)
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First of all, are you back from the desert? :)

You are 100% correct on CPUs for laptops and desktops, but System on Chip designs are more specific, my friend. Somebody posted the differences and manual of the chips (I think Blue did).

The way the chips manage heat for the components is different and the threshold of the 4460 is a stable 1.5ghz. The GPU is clocked higher too.

Different wafer runs and different chips. Due to different thresholds, the 4430 overclocked is not as efficient as the 4460 at 1.2ghz (defeat purpose if so).

Wiki has a simple overview :) As mentioned, I have a Moto 4430 D3 device and would also like a Kevlar oven mitt layer if clocked at 1.2ghz ;)
 
The RAZR makes this Nexus look like a Fisher Price toy. I hope the specs pull me through this choice. I have to admit the RAZR is bad arse looking and this thing looks cheap. I know I'll catch some flack for saying that but I for one do not like the look of it at all
 
cereal killer said:
The RAZR makes this Nexus look like a Fisher Price toy. I hope the specs pull me through this choice. I have to admit the RAZR is bad arse looking and this thing looks cheap. I know I'll catch some flack for saying that but I for one do not like the look of it at all
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I have to agree with you on that one. That razr is one sexy looking phone that I'm sure would keep me just as happy as the nexus.
 
cereal killer said:
The RAZR makes this Nexus look like a Fisher Price toy. I hope the specs pull me through this choice. I have to admit the RAZR is bad arse looking and this thing looks cheap. I know I'll catch some flack for saying that but I for one do not like the look of it at all
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It a phone.. not a life decision:) LOL

For me the Razr is a no go bc of locked bootloader, Motoblur, and no ICS. I will admit that it is a sweet looking piece of hardware though!!
 
cereal killer said:
The RAZR makes this Nexus look like a Fisher Price toy. I hope the specs pull me through this choice. I have to admit the RAZR is bad arse looking and this thing looks cheap. I know I'll catch some flack for saying that but I for one do not like the look of it at all
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The Kevlar and Gorilla Glass on the RAZR sure are nice....
But I have to hold both in my hands before I will commit to one or the other. I think it's just going to come down to feel.
 
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